I drive about 18,000 miles a year for my employer and have decided my
V-8 pickup needs to spend more time parked. I'm looking for an
inexpensive ($4000 max) car that'll get 30+mpg.
The top of my list is a late 90s Toyota Corolla, but I'd be interested
in recommendations for other cars to consider. Fuel economy and
reliablilty would be the most important factors to consider. Ease of
maintenance would be another.
Thanks for your help.
HLS@nospam.nix - 23 Feb 2006 01:25 GMT
In my opinion, a Toyota Camry or Corolla or a Honda Accord might be one
of the better buys.
I would buy, perhaps, a standard transmission. A lot of people
neglect the very hell out of their automatics.
There is no GM or Ford that I would buy used at this point.
> I drive about 18,000 miles a year for my employer and have decided my
> V-8 pickup needs to spend more time parked. I'm looking for an
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> Thanks for your help.
do_not_spam_me@my-deja.com - 28 Feb 2006 23:42 GMT
> In my opinion, a Toyota Camry or Corolla or a Honda Accord might be one
> of the better buys.
> There is no GM or Ford that I would buy used at this point.
Not even a Geo/Chevy Prizm? They sell for less than Corollas since
many people still don't know that the cars are actually Corollas.
John S. - 23 Feb 2006 01:53 GMT
> I drive about 18,000 miles a year for my employer and have decided my
> V-8 pickup needs to spend more time parked. I'm looking for an
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> Thanks for your help.
Buy a Corolla or Civic new for not a whole lot of money, enjoy the
excellent milage, take care of it and it will last for a loong time. I
would avoid used cars unless you are willing to really research the
title because there are a lot of totalled cars from the hurricane
damaged areas that are being peddled.
marks542004@yahoo.com - 23 Feb 2006 03:49 GMT
I had a 1989 chrysler lebaron 2.4 l 4 cyl that got excellent milage
highway.
with 18,000 miles anually I would either buy or lease a newer car or
find out why your employer won't buy one for you. a business would have
good tax writeoffs for the vehicle.
dnoyeB - 23 Feb 2006 14:49 GMT
> I drive about 18,000 miles a year for my employer and have decided my
> V-8 pickup needs to spend more time parked. I'm looking for an
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> Thanks for your help.
Corolla/Camry are nice cars but they do have one problem. They refuse
to die...

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Steve - 23 Feb 2006 17:00 GMT
> I drive about 18,000 miles a year for my employer and have decided my
> V-8 pickup needs to spend more time parked. I'm looking for an
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>
> Thanks for your help.
Benefit from other's stupidity. The fact that people are willing to pay
ridiculous amounts for clapped-out Hondas and Toyotas rules them out.
Spend 1/3 as much for a relatively low-mileage small American car like a
Neon (avoid the first-gen Neon) or Focus. Enjoy.
Timothy J. Lee - 23 Feb 2006 17:17 GMT
>The top of my list is a late 90s Toyota Corolla, but I'd be interested
>in recommendations for other cars to consider. Fuel economy and
>reliablilty would be the most important factors to consider. Ease of
>maintenance would be another.
The Chevrolet or Geo Prizm is a rebadged version of the Corolla which
may be less expensive as a used car due to the "domestic" badge (the
Prizm and Corolla were both made in the NUMMI factory in the US).
However, with fuel economy being a concern, choose a manual transmission;
if you cannot find or do not want a manual transmission, choose the 4-speed
automatic over the 3-speed automatic transmission that is common in the
Prizm and Corolla. Don't expect handling to be anywhere near sporty,
especially with low-trim 1998 cars.
The Honda Civic is another car with good reliability and fuel economy;
however, make note of when the timing belt was last changed, or be
prepared to do that service upon buying a used car if it was not known
to be done recently enough (Honda engines can suffer major damage if the
timing belt fails).

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DieInterim - 23 Feb 2006 17:30 GMT
Frank Wrote:
> I drive about 18,000 miles a year for my employer and have decided my
> V-8 pickup needs to spend more time parked. I'm looking for an
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> Thanks for your help.
Well if riding motorcycles doesnt bother you, then Geo Metro. My XFI
gives 50-55mpg which gives me more money for projects ->635CSI TURBO.
Dont expect a whole lotta car...last one I owned went 325K miles before
she was burning oil and junked.
Ciao,
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Frank - 24 Feb 2006 01:41 GMT
> Well if riding motorcycles doesnt bother you, then Geo Metro. My XFI
> gives 50-55mpg which gives me more money for projects ->635CSI TURBO.
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> DieInterim
I currently own three motorcycles and do about 20,000 miles a year on
them ;o) It's just not practical to ride them for work, though I do
sometimes. And believe it or not, it doesn't save much money -- I tend
to run through a $400 set of tires in 4000 or 14,000 miles, depending
on which one I'm riding. But that's way off topic.
If I find a car that doesn't cause me much trouble, I can save $1000 a
year on fuel. That'd pay for a $4000 car in four years, which is when
I plan to retire. And the car would still have some value when sold.
And -- my big incentive -- my nice V-8 pickup will have roughly 75,000
fewer miles on it, and it won't need to be replaced. I won't retire
unless I'm totally out of debt, and buying a new vehicle is out of the
question. All this makes a $4000 vehicle right now very attractive.
Thanks for the recommendations.
tom&kel - 24 Feb 2006 04:10 GMT
my work car is a 96 geo metro. i drive 90 miles two and from work,and only
costs about $25/week. it has given me absolutely no trouble.
downside is the shifting. with 18+ stoplights my bad knee protests the
choice of vehicle, but it keeps the truck in the garage.
>> Well if riding motorcycles doesnt bother you, then Geo Metro. My XFI
>> gives 50-55mpg which gives me more money for projects ->635CSI TURBO.
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> Thanks for the recommendations.
Frank - 24 Feb 2006 17:04 GMT
Shifting wouldn't be too big an issue -- I live in a rural area and
would be traveling a mixture of 2-lane highway and expressway most of
the time. I had planned to go with an automatic just to avoid clutch
issues from previous owners' misuse of the clutch. But I can see it's
a two-edged sword; the automatic may never have been maintained.
> my work car is a 96 geo metro. i drive 90 miles two and from work,and only
> costs about $25/week. it has given me absolutely no trouble.
>
> downside is the shifting. with 18+ stoplights my bad knee protests the
> choice of vehicle, but it keeps the truck in the garage.
Timothy J. Lee - 25 Feb 2006 06:00 GMT
>Shifting wouldn't be too big an issue -- I live in a rural area and
>would be traveling a mixture of 2-lane highway and expressway most of
>the time. I had planned to go with an automatic just to avoid clutch
>issues from previous owners' misuse of the clutch. But I can see it's
>a two-edged sword; the automatic may never have been maintained.
Automatics also tend to cost more to repair when they do break, and
they usually cause worse fuel economy. http://www.fueleconomy.gov
gives US EPA fuel economy numbers for cars from 1985 to current.

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Steve W. - 24 Feb 2006 04:34 GMT
I was going through a bunch of rubber on my 'wing until I switched to a
car tire on the rear. So far I have over 30K on the latest one and it
still has a lot of life left on it.
Take a look at
http://lifeisaroad.com/stories/2006/02/10/darkWingdarksideGoldWingcarTireOnAGold
Wing.html
http://lifeisaroad.com/stories/2004/10/27/theDarkSide.html
Oh an track back to Dans main site http://lifeisaroad.com
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> > gives 50-55mpg which gives me more money for projects ->635CSI TURBO.
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> Thanks for the recommendations.
barry@psyber.com - 28 Feb 2006 23:22 GMT
: I drive about 18,000 miles a year for my employer and have decided my
: V-8 pickup needs to spend more time parked. I'm looking for an
: inexpensive ($4000 max) car that'll get 30+mpg.
: The top of my list is a late 90s Toyota Corolla, but I'd be interested
: in recommendations for other cars to consider. Fuel economy and
: reliablilty would be the most important factors to consider. Ease of
: maintenance would be another.
: Thanks for your help.
I think you made a very good choice in considering the Corolla. Additionally,
a 4 cylinder Camry would provide decent gas mileage. The V6 Camrys tend to
get around 25 MPG or so which wouldn't be as good.
If it were me, I'd opt for a 4 cylinder Camry because of the size of
the car and being a little more comfortable vs. the Corolla but
both are excellent choices.
b.