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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / March 2006

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GE Nighthawk headlamps for Mazda Protege OK?

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me@privacy.net - 26 Feb 2006 22:42 GMT
I have a 2000 Mazda Protege ES

Headlamp is burnt out so went shopping for a lamp. Boy
is the technology changed a lot!   Not sure what to buy

So I bought the GE Nighthawk 9003 lamps.  Are they OK
with my small car?  Or will they get so hot as to melt
something or cause fire?

Opinions please?

Thanks!
Daniel J. Stern - 27 Feb 2006 01:49 GMT
> I have a 2000 Mazda Protege ES Headlamp is burnt out so went shopping
> for a lamp. Boy is the technology changed a lot!  Not sure what to buy
> So I bought the GE Nighthawk 9003 lamps.  Are they OK with my small car?
> Or will they get so hot as to melt something or cause fire? Opinions
> please?

They are safe, legal, and one of the best 9003 bulbs on the market. It is
illegal to sell bulbs that will "get so hot as to melt something or cause
fire".
me@privacy.net - 27 Feb 2006 14:38 GMT
>They are safe, legal, and one of the best 9003 bulbs on the market. It is
>illegal to sell bulbs that will "get so hot as to melt something or cause
>fire".

Ok thanks

I'm a complete dummie when it comes to car tech. <g>
y_p_w - 27 Feb 2006 17:49 GMT
> > I have a 2000 Mazda Protege ES Headlamp is burnt out so went shopping
> > for a lamp. Boy is the technology changed a lot!  Not sure what to buy
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> illegal to sell bulbs that will "get so hot as to melt something or cause
> fire".

"For offroad use only"

"For show purposes only"

As for the (very much street legal) Nighthawks, I'd think that the
price you pay for the increased output is shorter bulb life.  Not
sure how much, but it's probably nowhere near as bad as one
of those bluish bulbs (think Sylvania Silverstar).
me@privacy.net - 27 Feb 2006 20:30 GMT
>"For offroad use only"
>
>"For show purposes only"

Is that what they are for above?   I didn't see that
anywhere on the package. Are you sure they are not for
street use as well?

>As for the (very much street legal) Nighthawks, I'd think that the
>price you pay for the increased output is shorter bulb life.  Not
>sure how much, but it's probably nowhere near as bad as one
>of those bluish bulbs (think Sylvania Silverstar).

That's kinda what I'm thinking as well..... possible
shorter bulb life. So I guess my question is..... is
that is the case then is that trade off worth the
benefit?
y_p_w - 27 Feb 2006 21:45 GMT
> >"For offroad use only"
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> anywhere on the package. Are you sure they are not for
> street use as well?

The Nighthawks are street legal.  You'll often see those
terms for overwattage bulbs, which the Nighthawks are
not.  I was referring to the type of bulb that may overheat
and/or blind oncoming traffic.
me@privacy.net - 27 Feb 2006 22:45 GMT
> I was referring to the type of bulb that may overheat
>and/or blind oncoming traffic.

OK..... now I understand

Thanks!
Daniel J. Stern - 28 Feb 2006 06:16 GMT
>> As for the (very much street legal) Nighthawks, I'd think that the
>> price you pay for the increased output is shorter bulb life.  Not sure
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> So I guess my question is..... is that is the case then is that trade
> off worth the benefit?

If you live in LA where headlamps are superfluous and most likely their
use will get you shot, then no.

If you drive in the dark, then yes.
me@privacy.net - 28 Feb 2006 14:43 GMT
>If you live in LA where headlamps are superfluous and most likely their
>use will get you shot, then no.

What do you mean by above Daniel?  I've never lived in
LA so not sure what you allude to

>If you drive in the dark, then yes.

Another possibly dumb question..... but if one headlamp
burns out but the other is still OK...should a person
go ahead and just replace BOTH of them at same time
anyway?
y_p_w - 28 Feb 2006 17:25 GMT
> >If you live in LA where headlamps are superfluous and most likely their
> >use will get you shot, then no.
>
> What do you mean by above Daniel?  I've never lived in
> LA so not sure what you allude to

Seems to be a joke about the possibility of gang violence
and/or carjacking in Los Angeles.

> >If you drive in the dark, then yes.
>
> Another possibly dumb question..... but if one headlamp
> burns out but the other is still OK...should a person
> go ahead and just replace BOTH of them at same time
> anyway?

I think it's a good idea.  I don't like having one bulb that much
brighter than the other.  Most bulbs' output will degrade over
time.
Daniel J. Stern - 28 Feb 2006 06:16 GMT
> "For offroad use only"
> "For show purposes only"

Neither of the above offers *any* shield or protection against the
applicable provisions of Federal law (contained in 49CFR571) banning the
importation, introduction into interstate commerce, sale or professional
installation of noncompliant motor vehicle equipment. That fact doesn't
stop a lot of people from applying such meaningless disclaimers to their
illegal products, but make no mistake: There is NO exemption under Federal
law for "offroad" or "show" products.

> As for the (very much street legal) Nighthawks, I'd think that the price
> you pay for the increased output is shorter bulb life.

Correct.

> Not sure how much, but it's probably nowhere near as bad as one of those
> bluish bulbs (think Sylvania Silverstar).

Also correct.
John S. - 28 Feb 2006 18:20 GMT
> I have a 2000 Mazda Protege ES
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Thanks!

The few tests I've read of aftermarket bulbs like the Nighthawk seem to
indicate that they do not provide a discernable improvement in
visibility.  In otherwords you don't see objects any sooner than with
standard halogen bulbs.  They are bright and dazzlingly different to
oncoming drivers if that is what you are looking for.
Itsme - 05 Mar 2006 03:31 GMT
>> I have a 2000 Mazda Protege ES
>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> standard halogen bulbs.  They are bright and dazzlingly different to
> oncoming drivers if that is what you are looking for.

That seems illogical.
Daniel J. Stern - 05 Mar 2006 05:05 GMT
>> The few tests I've read of aftermarket bulbs like the Nighthawk seem to
>> indicate that they do not provide a discernable improvement in
>> visibility.  In otherwords you don't see objects any sooner than with
>> standard halogen bulbs.  They are bright and dazzlingly different to
>> oncoming drivers if that is what you are looking for.

> That seems illogical.

It seems illogical because John is making it up as he goes along. The one
"test" he might have read that said anything like this was Condemner
Reports' recent idiocy on the topic.
Itsme - 05 Mar 2006 19:11 GMT
>>> The few tests I've read of aftermarket bulbs like the Nighthawk seem to
>>> indicate that they do not provide a discernable improvement in
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> "test" he might have read that said anything like this was Condemner
> Reports' recent idiocy on the topic.

I take anything in consumer reports with a shaker full of grains of salt.
 
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