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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / March 2006

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1990 Cherokee Starting Issue

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erich.moeller@gmail.com - 27 Feb 2006 18:35 GMT
I have a 1990 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L that will not start. The battery is at
12.5V and there is no "click" from the starter when the ignition switch
is turned to the "start" position. I tested the voltage at the ignition
wire at the fuse panel inside and there was no change when switched
from "on" to "start" position. The only thing that happens when the
ignition switch is turned to the "start" position is the temp. gauge
goes from cold to hot. This just started and I have never had this
problem before. Any ideas?
Shep - 27 Feb 2006 19:27 GMT
Do you have 12v at the starter solenoid?
>I have a 1990 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L that will not start. The battery is at
> 12.5V and there is no "click" from the starter when the ignition switch
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> goes from cold to hot. This just started and I have never had this
> problem before. Any ideas?
erich.moeller@gmail.com - 27 Feb 2006 21:22 GMT
I have not checked. I will check tomorrow. What should I do/check if I
am not getting 12V at the solenoid?
Mike Romain - 27 Feb 2006 22:12 GMT
The body ground goes bad on those easily.  It is a wire mesh strap from
the rear of the head up to the firewall.

The negative connection at the battery and block or fender also can fail
as well as the positive contacts on the starter solenoid just behind the
battery on the fender.  The small pins on the starter solenoid also can
just be corroded.

I would go for the possible dirty connections first before tearing
anything apart.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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> I have a 1990 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L that will not start. The battery is at
> 12.5V and there is no "click" from the starter when the ignition switch
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> goes from cold to hot. This just started and I have never had this
> problem before. Any ideas?
erich.moeller@gmail.com - 02 Mar 2006 17:28 GMT
I checked the braided ground and it is fine. The pins on the solenoid
and they were a little corroded, so I cleaned them up and still
nothing. Could it just be a bad solenoid? How would I check it? The
starter switch is okay. Any other ideas? I don't have any diagrams or
repair manuals available to me here, so I'm at a loss at the moment.
Mike Romain - 02 Mar 2006 21:17 GMT
The easy way is to put your hand on it while someone hits the key.  If
it clicks, the key is sending the solenoid/relay power.  

You said you have have a multimeter or a way to check voltage?

If so, the dark green wire comes from the keyswitch.  When the key goes
to run, this wire should have 12.2+ volts in it.  It is the trigger for
the solenoid.

There are several green wires there, depending on your setup, but only
one will go hot when the key goes to run, it fires up the others...

Then if the relay clicks, you should see power on the cable going to the
starter with the key in run.  If you have power there, then suspect a
bad starter or connection at the starter.  

If no output from the relay, suspect the main cables on the relay dirty
or a dead relay.

You can bypass the starter relay with a booster cable.  The battery
cable goes to one side and the starter cable comes out the other side.
If you put a booster on the starter side and carefully touch it to the
positive battery cable, the starter should spin up.  If the key is
freshly in run it should start then.  (that will get you to the store to
get a new one)

If you do all this and still have no joy, then I would take a booster
cable and run it from the battery negative to the engine block.  That
connection on the main negative cable at the block can go bad too.

When all else fails, you can take a booster cable and put it on the
starter power bolt, then put the other end on the battery positive.
This will spin the starter up and with the key freshly in run it should
fire up.

Hope some of this helps,

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos:  Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

> I checked the braided ground and it is fine. The pins on the solenoid
> and they were a little corroded, so I cleaned them up and still
> nothing. Could it just be a bad solenoid? How would I check it? The
> starter switch is okay. Any other ideas? I don't have any diagrams or
> repair manuals available to me here, so I'm at a loss at the moment.
 
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