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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / March 2006

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Old Junker Toyota Pickup Overheating

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throwaway340895@hotmail.com - 09 Mar 2006 17:50 GMT
1992 Toyota pickup.  After driving 15 minutes in light traffic at
moderate speeds, Temperature is at redline, popping sound comes from
the radiator.  Pop!  Pop!  Pop!...  Get to work, stop the car.  Keeps
popping as it cools.  Fluid will be low, but none on the ground, and no
steam.  This has been happening a couple of days.

The fluid in the past has been getting low about once a week;  I've
been refilling it and not worrying about it because its an old junker
truck I'm just keeping running.  What should I look at to
fix/replace/flush etc to resolve the overheating?

Thanks!
Scott Dorsey - 09 Mar 2006 18:20 GMT
>1992 Toyota pickup.  After driving 15 minutes in light traffic at
>moderate speeds, Temperature is at redline, popping sound comes from
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>truck I'm just keeping running.  What should I look at to
>fix/replace/flush etc to resolve the overheating?

I'd check to make sure the thermostat isn't broken before doing anything
else.  I'd also look in to make sure the whole radiator isn't clogged
with scale.  Then I'd check to make sure the water pump was happy.

I would not be surprised if all three of these were issues.  

Note that an acid flush to clean all the scale out may cause the radiator
to start leaking if it's already in bad shape and marginal.  But it's
not a bad idea if you're intending on keeping the thing running for a while,
and if the water pump is good.  

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Kaz Kylheku - 09 Mar 2006 19:23 GMT
> 1992 Toyota pickup.  After driving 15 minutes in light traffic at
> moderate speeds, Temperature is at redline, popping sound comes from
> the radiator.  Pop!  Pop!  Pop!...  Get to work, stop the car.  Keeps
> popping as it cools.  Fluid will be low, but none on the ground, and no
> steam.  This has been happening a couple of days.

Maybe the fluid isn't circulating at all. (Water pump?)

Maybe the flow regulation isn't working, and so the coolant isn't
getting to the engine block. (Thermostat?)

Also, maybe there is inadequate pressure in the system due to a leak
somewhere. (Radiator cap?)

A car engine's coolant, which is largely water, has to heat far above
100 degrees Celsius without boiling. This is posssible because the
cooling system is closed, and pressurized, kind of like a pressure
cooker.

Without the pressure, your coolant would boil off quickly.

But too much pressure is, of course, undesireable. That's why, just
like a pressure cooker, there is a way to relieve pressure. This is
typically in the radiator cap, which is spring loaded so that its seal
can lift under pressure.

That popping sound you hear, could it be your radiator cap bleeding off
pressure prematurely?

That would explain why you are losing coolant, and why the engine is
overheating.

If the liquid boils inside the engine block due to inadequate pressure,
the resulting vapor can't do a useful job of keeping the engine cool,
you see. Water vapor has very little heat capacity compared to liquid
water! Once the coolant passages in the engine block are full of
nothing but vapor, you are going to overheat.

So, first thing, try replacing the radiator cap.
Kaz Kylheku - 09 Mar 2006 19:37 GMT
throwaway340...@hotmail.com wrote:
> 1992 Toyota pickup.  After driving 15 minutes in light traffic at
> moderate speeds, Temperature is at redline, popping sound comes from
> the radiator.  Pop!  Pop!  Pop!...  Get to work, stop the car.  Keeps
> popping as it cools.  Fluid will be low, but none on the ground, and no
> steam.  This has been happening a couple of days.

Maybe the fluid isn't circulating at all. (Water pump?)

Maybe the flow regulation isn't working. (Thermostat?)

Also, maybe there is inadequate pressure in the system due to a leak
somewhere. (Radiator cap?)

A car engine's coolant, which is largely water, has to heat far above
100 degrees Celsius without boiling. This is posssible because the
cooling system is closed, and pressurized, kind of like a pressure
cooker.

Without the pressure, your coolant would boil off quickly.

But too much pressure is, of course, undesireable. That's why, just
like a pressure cooker, there is a way to relieve pressure. This is
typically in the radiator cap, which is spring loaded so that its seal
can lift under pressure.

That popping sound you hear, could it be your radiator cap bleeding off
pressure prematurely?

That would explain why you are losing coolant, and why the engine is
overheating.

If the liquid boils inside the engine block due to inadequate pressure,
the resulting vapor can't do a useful job of keeping the engine cool,
you see. Water vapor has very little heat capacity compared to liquid
water! Once the coolant passages in the engine block are full of
nothing but vapor, you are going to overheat.

So, first thing, try replacing the radiator cap.

Where does the coolant go when bled off by the cap? Either just into
the atmosphere, or into a reservoir from which it can be sucked back
when the pressure drops, creating a vacuum (which the cap is also
designed to relieve). It depends on whether you have an open or closed
type pressure relief system.
fweddybear - 09 Mar 2006 19:54 GMT
> 1992 Toyota pickup.  After driving 15 minutes in light traffic at
> moderate speeds, Temperature is at redline, popping sound comes from
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Thanks!

   Among everything people have mentioned here, check the oil as well....
you say the fluid keeps getting low, but none on the ground.... is it
leaking into the crankcase??  If so, it may not such an easy fix...

Good luck..

Fwed
Comboverfish - 09 Mar 2006 20:18 GMT
> 1992 Toyota pickup.  After driving 15 minutes in light traffic at
> moderate speeds, Temperature is at redline, popping sound comes from
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Thanks!

Say, would that be the 3.0 V6 in your truck?  (not a bad idea to add
important info like that, ya know)

If so, your headgaskets are blown at cylinders 1 and 6.  Call the
Toyota dealer and see if your truck still qualifies for the headgasket
recall.

The 22RE also can blow it's headgasket and cause similar results, but
it isn't nearly as common a problem nor is it covered by a recall
campaign.

Toyota MDT in MO
Solomon_Man - 09 Mar 2006 21:06 GMT
I am not a mechanic but the local junkyards in my area scrap out the
radiators from toyota trucks as they are almost always clogged.

Just my 2 cents,
Good Luck,
Chris
 
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