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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / March 2006sorta OT but not really - PayPal, lesson learned
Don't bother trying to get your money back from Paypal when a deal goes bad. Might be better to use your credit card if you can, credit card cos. usually stand up for you. Paypal basically told me that I had to have a letter from an "expert" testifying to the condition etc. of the item that I was disputing. WTF? I offered to send them pics but that wasn't good enough. Apparently they fail to realize that I don't exactly have a carburetor rebuilder around the corner that I can just pop in on, who's willing to type up a letter on his letterhead testifying to the condition of a carburetor that he's not going to get any money for looking at. Has anyone had any GOOD experiences with other online payment services? I don't want to have to give up eBay but I don't really want to continue using Paypal either. nate PS - if you buy a carburetor from "roefastford" insist on LOTS of pictures before you bid. The guy conveniently neglected to mention in his auction the bent throttle shaft and cracked casting. I trusted the description and learned a $200 lesson. PPS - the response I received from "the carburetor shop" regarding my polite inquiry about the possibility of having an Edelbrock carb rebushed pretty much ensures that if I ever do have any carb work done, it won't be with them. I guess whoever replied to my message was trying to be cute or funny or something, but the response was basically a whole paragraph of variations on "we don't even allow you to walk in our shop holding an Edelbrock in your hand. In fact, you're not even allowed in the parking lot..." etc. etc. etc.  Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel > Don't bother trying to get your money back from Paypal when a deal goes > bad. Might be better to use your credit card if you can, credit card > cos. usually stand up for you. Just use paypal to broker credit card charges, but don't let them do direct debits to a bank account. That way you can get both parties involved when the deal goes sour. There are many consumer rules for dispute resolution that come into play on credit card deals that are not available on direct debits. I've had excellent experience with Paypal so far, including the one situation where I disputed a deal with a seller from Australia and another with a guy in Switzerland. I got my money back from the CC company in both situations. > Paypal basically told me that I had to > have a letter from an "expert" testifying to the condition etc. of the [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > replace "fly" with "com" to reply. > http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel >>Don't bother trying to get your money back from Paypal when a deal goes >>bad. Might be better to use your credit card if you can, credit card [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > a seller from Australia and another with a guy in Switzerland. I got > my money back from the CC company in both situations. Of course. Always prefer the CC. paypal wont mess with them. But I use paypal with my bank account since CC cost more. I guess think of the CC fee as insurance. SignatureThank you, "Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16 > >>Don't bother trying to get your money back from Paypal when a deal goes > >>bad. Might be better to use your credit card if you can, credit card [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > use paypal with my bank account since CC cost more. I guess think of > the CC fee as insurance. In the USA at my banks a charge to a credit card account costs the same as a direct debit. There is no fee charged by the bank to the account holder. If you choose to not pay off the balance each month then there is a separate interest rate charged on credit card accounts. > -- Did you post negative feedback on EBAY? I know this does not help you but it will help others from having the same problem. Stan > Don't bother trying to get your money back from Paypal when a deal goes > bad. Might be better to use your credit card if you can, credit card [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > replace "fly" with "com" to reply. > http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel Nate Nagel <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote in article <dvl0741jv0@news1.newsguy.com>... > Don't bother trying to get your money back from Paypal when a deal goes > bad. Might be better to use your credit card if you can, credit card [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > testifying to the condition of a carburetor that he's not going to get > any money for looking at. Perhaps....JUST PERHAPS.....if you went to the local carburetor shop with the attitude that you would be paying him for his services, he just might.....MIGHT, mind you......be willing to assess your POS carburetor and write a letter. Why do you expect him to look at your carb for nothing????? Why should ANYBODY who puts food on the table with his with technical knowledge give it away???? > Nate Nagel <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote in article > <dvl0741jv0@news1.newsguy.com>... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Why should ANYBODY who puts food on the table with his with technical > knowledge give it away???? First of all, I don't HAVE a local carburetor shop. Secondly, I agree with you 100%. It was PayPal that was expecting me to be able to do this. You and I both know that an Edelbrock with a bent throttle shaft and cracked casting is worthless other than for parts, and fixing it would cost more than just ordering a new one through Jeg's or my FLAPS. This is why I'm a little annoyed with PayPal at the moment; they expected me to take my time and money to have my carb inspected by a hypothetical shop that would undoubtedly be resistant to do so (because it would cost them time and money as well, for no return to them.) Even if I HAD a local carb shop, I'd be embarassed to ask them to do what PayPal requested, unless I was already a regular customer - otherwise I'd have to offer to pay them for my time, which would cost me even more $$$ just for the POSSIBILITY that PayPal would take my side in the dispute. As it is I am out my $200 and next time I won't be so damned cheap and just order a new one rather than try to save a few bucks. I also won't be bidding on any more auctions with only one picture, no matter how glowing the description. nate > Don't bother trying to get your money back from Paypal when a deal goes > bad. Might be better to use your credit card if you can, credit card cos. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Edelbrock in your hand. In fact, you're not even allowed in the parking > lot..." etc. etc. etc. Just be happy you are not THIS carb-buyer: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4612330052 > < > Just be happy you are not THIS carb-buyer: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4612330052 > > < For a beat up used Holley?????? Either shills or those guys been smokin funny cigarettes!!!!!!!!!! > > Don't bother trying to get your money back from Paypal when a deal goes > > bad. Might be better to use your credit card if you can, credit card cos. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4612330052 > > < seller has zero negative feedback so I have to assume that that's legit... I certainly wouldn't pay that much for a carb though! I'm a little more "frugal" than your average Chevy restorer though! Now how would you clean up that carb for use without ruining the patina and the ink marks? Little tiny bottle brushes? Which reminds me of something... but I'll post under another topic nate > the response I received from "the carburetor shop" regarding my > polite inquiry about the possibility of having an Edelbrock carb [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > holding an Edelbrock in your hand. In fact, you're not even allowed in > the parking lot..." etc. etc. etc. Call up the Old Carb Doctor, 800-945-CARB. >>the response I received from "the carburetor shop" regarding my >>polite inquiry about the possibility of having an Edelbrock carb [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Call up the Old Carb Doctor, 800-945-CARB. I've heard good things about Daytona Parts, and apparently the owner has some interest in Studebakers, so I would probably go to them first... but thanks for the recommend, I'll file that away. Since I am apparently stuck with a parts carb, I'll probably try to fix up this old 625 CFM 9000 series AFB that's been underneath my roll cabinet for a while. Doesn't look like there's anything wrong with it that a jiffy kit won't fix, but all the linkages are missing. I can fix that now. nate (would have rather had the shiny new carb in working condition, but whaddayagonnado.) Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
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