Hello,
My son has a 93 Buick LeSabre (front wheel drive V6) with about 90k on
it. Sometimes it just totally dies and there is nothing, no lights,
radio, anything. After a while it can be restarted but the radio has
lost its memory, etc.
We checked the battery cables and they are clean and tight. What else
could cause a total electrical interuption like this? It seems like
this is more common soon after the car has been started cold. It has
that chip in the key thing, but it does this with either of the 2 keys
so I don't think it is the ignition key.
Thanks,
Libby
Don Bruder - 08 Apr 2006 17:32 GMT
> Hello,
> My son has a 93 Buick LeSabre (front wheel drive V6) with about 90k on
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks,
> Libby
Sounds like either a self-resetting breaker is blowing then resetting,
or a cable (perhaps a ground?) Has broken in such a way that when it
gets hot, the break opens up, and when it cools back down, the break
closes again.

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HLS@nospam.nix - 08 Apr 2006 17:33 GMT
> Hello,
> My son has a 93 Buick LeSabre (front wheel drive V6) with about 90k on
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks,
> Libby
I think I have a manual that will cover the schematics of this year, and
will
see if I can find anything unusual about it.
The earlier passkey systems usually worked only when you were trying to
start the car, not after it was already running. (I just defeated my system
on
the 90 Reatta because it was so touchy.) I'll see what changes were made to
the later systems.
I have had a bad ignition switch on a Ford behave similarly, not the key or
the
cylinder, but the switch itself.
Will get back with you.
HLS@nospam.nix - 08 Apr 2006 17:50 GMT
> Hello,
> My son has a 93 Buick LeSabre (front wheel drive V6) with about 90k on
> it. Sometimes it just totally dies and there is nothing, no lights,
> radio, anything. After a while it can be restarted but the radio has
> lost its memory, etc.
> Thanks,
> Libby
I did a quick schematic check, Libby.
The radio memory runs from a line that should be hot at all times. It
does not go through a switch or relay, etc. (So forget the ignition switch
idea).
To totally lose power, intermittently, I would look at
(1) battery cable....again... The Buick battery cables are often multiple
side mount
units. They can become corroded inside the rubber covering, and this is a
common
mode of failure. The rubber can be pulled back and the internals can be
cleaned
but this may provide only temporary relief. For example, the cable to the
starter
may work okay, while the other may not be getting current due to corrosion.
(2) I suppose the battery itself could have an intermittent cracked plate.
Not too
usual, but it has happened.
There are other places where intermittent contacts can result in this sort
of behavior.
Maybe the other regulars know some of the weaknesses.
Libby Chantel - 09 Apr 2006 05:39 GMT
Even the headlights go off, and I reconfirmed that the radio loses it's
memory. We cannot find a ground cable at all from engine to chassis.
Does your schematic show where to find it on this car?
HLS@nospam.nix - 09 Apr 2006 14:20 GMT
> Even the headlights go off, and I reconfirmed that the radio loses it's
> memory. We cannot find a ground cable at all from engine to chassis.
> Does your schematic show where to find it on this car?
I'll look. On one of my cars the battery negative has multiple cables,
one to the chassis, one to the engine block, etc. There may be other
ground straps from block to chassis as well.
Any time you have those multiple cables, there is the possibility that
a failure will occur. The cables can look great, but have internal
problems.
Mike Romain - 09 Apr 2006 15:31 GMT
You are describing a main battery cable failure. I would be cleaning
'both' ends of the battery cables. The other ends corrode and most
folks forget about them when cleaning up cables. The negative to the
engine block one in particular.
GM's 'usually' have a wire mesh cable from a transmission bell housing
bolt to the body. They also have a small negative lead from the battery
to the fender. When the mesh cable goes bad, it will run for a while
off the small feed, but the insulation will soon melt and the wire will
burn up. This usually manifests itself as a dead battery though, not a
dead car.
Mike
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> Even the headlights go off, and I reconfirmed that the radio loses it's
> memory. We cannot find a ground cable at all from engine to chassis.
> Does your schematic show where to find it on this car?