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aire - 20 Apr 2006 04:58 GMT

My 1991 sunbird 2.0 L died yesterday in a drive-thru and will not start
back up again.
I have already replaced the:
distributor
module
spark plugs/wires
fuses
distributor cap
rotor
coil pack

It has fuel pressure.
It has no spark
The ignition wire to the coil pack has 12 volts when key is to the on
position.
There is no spark out of the coil.
Anyone have any ideas or suggestion on what could be wrong or what I
can do to fix?
PLEASE help. Thanks in advance.

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Ralf Ballis - 20 Apr 2006 10:10 GMT

Hows about ignition control unit?

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Ralf

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fiveiron@webtv.net - 20 Apr 2006 11:08 GMT

well the spark comes from an effective ignition system.

why all the replacement of the parts you mentioned?

I would check the distributor module / coil pack to see if they are ok.

and check the old ones that you removed.

if you don't have a tester - you might try one at a time on the car.

just dying and want start sounds like a plugged fuel filter, which gm is
noted for. but no spark is another thing.

is it possible that you could go through the on / off / on key routine -
as needed to get a defect code?

mho
ve

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aire - 20 Apr 2006 22:38 GMT

> well the spark comes from an effective ignition system.
>
> why all the replacement of the parts you mentioned?

because it is a 1991, lol and some of the parts i replaced because of a
high nox on the emissions test

> I would check the distributor module / coil pack to see if they are ok. already did that the coil pack was bad which is why i replaced it. I already replaced both the module then the entire distributor, replacing the entire distributor was my last guess so I did it.
>
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> just dying and want start sounds like a plugged fuel filter, which gm is
> noted for. but no spark is another thing.

It is getting fuel I say the little pulleys move under the air filter
and i could smell the fuel. It is getting fuel.

> is it possible that you could go through the on / off / on key routine -
> as needed to get a defect code?
>
> mho
> ve

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jim - 20 Apr 2006 15:11 GMT

> My 1991 sunbird 2.0 L died yesterday in a drive-thru and will not start
> back up again.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> can do to fix?
> PLEASE help. Thanks in advance.

Take the oil fill cap off and look inside while someone cranks the
engine. Is the camshaft turning?. If not you have a broken timing belt.

-jim

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aire - 03 May 2006 17:37 GMT

Guess what I found the problem and you won't believe it. Or at least
they didn't at Auto Zone.

The first part that we replaced the coil pack was the culprit and the
replacement new coil pack from Auto Zone was bad, I called them and
said I thought it might be bad, he said that was unlikely but alowed me
to exchange it any way. Since I new everything else should have been
already tested [like the distriubutor] and some of which I had already
replaced twice [modulator]. And since my last post I had also replaced
the brain it was the last straw.

It was the last and final thing to try and we tried it on a whim (and I
was already upset with going and looking at other cars sorry folks
don't like car dealers) and shaaaazammm it started after the second
coil pack.

Thanks for you help.

Aire

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