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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / April 2006

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$900 for Mazda Protege exhaust?

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me@privacy.net - 21 Apr 2006 22:40 GMT
I priced a direct fit exhaust system for my 2000 Mazda
Protege.

Direct fit means it is what the factory
uses....designed to fit ONLY my car

Cost is $900 thru Mazda dealer

Is that out of line?

Any 3rd party mechanics out there that can do a direct
fit cheaper?

I live abt 2 hrs north of St Louis so its not a bad
drive to go there if needed
HLS@nospam.nix - 21 Apr 2006 23:00 GMT
> I priced a direct fit exhaust system for my 2000 Mazda
> Protege.
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>
> Is that out of line?

In my estimation, I would choke on that price...Now, I might have to
end up paying it,but I doubt it.

What actually do you need?  The entire system from head to buttocks?

NAPA sources some of your parts.  Maybe not all.

Muffler companies like Midas can probably give you a quote to redo the
whole schmutz for a lot less than that.

I would do a lot more shopping before I shelled out $900 to a stealership.
me@privacy.net - 22 Apr 2006 03:39 GMT
>What actually do you need?  The entire system from head to buttocks?

Well I'm not sure just yet

But car has 105k on it and never had ANY exhaust work
done

It makes a wired cricket like sound that I've been told
are some internal baffles that have rotted away

have any idea what it might be?
fiveiron@webtv.net - 22 Apr 2006 04:39 GMT
if the car passes state inspections without a hitch - and only the
muffler is shot, just replace the muffler with like kind.

mufflers that have a sound shell can be repaired by competent mechanics.

think about getting and oem muffler by some crook or hook fashion.

normally oem mufflers last a long time, I know chrysler products do. if
it isn't

aluminized / stainless steel, and has been parked overnight on an
unpaved area, they go to pot fast.

get an estimate from a local muffler shop, you might just have a loose
connection somewhere, hopefully.

mho
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* - 22 Apr 2006 13:43 GMT
fiveiron@webtv.net wrote in article
<21152-4449A55F-388@storefull-3316.bay.webtv.net>...

>>> mufflers that have a sound shell can be repaired by competent
mechanics.

??????????

Yup.....Those are the same guys who specialize in repairing light bulbs,
too.
HLS@nospam.nix - 22 Apr 2006 13:41 GMT
> It makes a wired cricket like sound that I've been told
> are some internal baffles that have rotted away
>
> have any idea what it might be?

'Internal baffles' signals the muffler, most likely.  The muffler
is only one part of the exhaust 'system'. If the
other parts are good, there is no reason to replace them.

You may be able to find a selection of brands of aftermarket
mufflers, some even in stainless steel, that can be adapted
to your car.  These mufflers may range from roughly the $30
level up to near a hundred bucks.

You can probably save yourself a ton of money by shopping
around, and staying away from the dealership mentality.

You may want to be careful of 'performance' type applications
as they may be noisier than what you are accustomed to.
Scott Dorsey - 22 Apr 2006 13:57 GMT
>>What actually do you need?  The entire system from head to buttocks?
>
>Well I'm not sure just yet
>
>But car has 105k on it and never had ANY exhaust work
>done

Hey, I've had 480,000 miles on a car with the original exhaust.  What
damages exhaust systems is water.... if you run them up every day and
get the system nice and hot, you'll have a lot fewer rust issues than if
you just drive on weekends.  

>It makes a wired cricket like sound that I've been told
>are some internal baffles that have rotted away

That's just the muffler.  It might be entirely possible to just cut out the
muffler and replace it without changing anything else.  That's a much cheaper
job.

>have any idea what it might be?

Not without looking under the car and seeing what is rusty and what is clean.
If it's rusty, replace it.  If it's not, keep it.
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Alex Rodriguez - 24 Apr 2006 21:28 GMT
>It makes a wired cricket like sound that I've been told
>are some internal baffles that have rotted away
>
>have any idea what it might be?

Could be a rattling exhaust shield.
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mst - 24 Apr 2006 21:49 GMT
> It makes a wired cricket like sound that I've been told
> are some internal baffles that have rotted away
>
> have any idea what it might be?

Could be internal baffles - if that's the
case, you better change it out PRONTO, as
it could clog itself causing other issues.

I've had a similar noise, which turned out
to be a vibrating heat shield just under
the floorboard. I used asbestos sheeing to
wedge it between the shield and cat to stop
the vibration.

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me@privacy.net - 24 Apr 2006 22:09 GMT
>Could be internal baffles - if that's the
>case, you better change it out PRONTO, as
>it could clog itself causing other issues.

Yep.... this is what it "sounds" like.....

Makes a chirping sound at idle and low rpm. Sounds like
crickets making a noise.

So it could just be the muffler only huh?

That's where the internal baffles are at?
mst - 24 Apr 2006 22:19 GMT
> >Could be internal baffles - if that's the
> >case, you better change it out PRONTO, as
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>
> That's where the internal baffles are at?

Catalytic converters have 'sort of' baffles,
the ones with the honeycomb style, which you
have to be careful of. If they shatter and
and shifting around, they can clog the system
and cause excessive backpressure and excessive
engine heat, causing all kinds of havoc.

Is the sound coming from the muffler area or
the catalytic area?  Or can you tell for sure?

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me@privacy.net - 24 Apr 2006 22:57 GMT
>Is the sound coming from the muffler area or
>the catalytic area?  Or can you tell for sure?

Cant tell
AZ Nomad - 22 Apr 2006 00:26 GMT
>I priced a direct fit exhaust system for my 2000 Mazda
>Protege.

>Direct fit means it is what the factory
>uses....designed to fit ONLY my car

>Cost is $900 thru Mazda dealer

>Is that out of line?

>Any 3rd party mechanics out there that can do a direct
>fit cheaper?
can't figure out how to use a phone directory (yellow pages) or
phone searching website like switchboard.com?
antonr01@yahoo.com - 22 Apr 2006 00:37 GMT
I just got a price from a local shop for my Jetta, $650.  Exhausts are
expensive.  I bought an aftermarket performance exhaust on Ebay for
$200, and put it in myself.  Don't try this unless you have a sawzall.
You'll never get the old exhaust off.
antonr01@yahoo.com - 22 Apr 2006 00:38 GMT
I just got a price from a local shop for my Jetta, $650.  Exhausts are
expensive.  I bought an aftermarket performance exhaust on Ebay for
$200, and put it in myself.  Don't try this unless you have a sawzall.
You'll never get the old exhaust off.
fiveiron@webtv.net - 22 Apr 2006 04:14 GMT
a good muffler shop should be able to "tailor" any exhaust system to
fit, and install it..

they have all the facilities needed to do such job.

my primary concern would be the type of materials used in the
installation. like

stainless steel and aluminum in areas where an oem installation would
use them.

if the catalytic converter is to be replaced, the shop would need to be
certified for this type job.

you might buy the parts from a mazda dealer that would give you a 25%
discount,

and then find a reliable muffler shop that would install for a
reasonable fee, or get

an estimate from a reliable muffler shop, they can buy oem parts.

mho
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