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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / May 2006

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Restoring a car that has been sitting for 10+ years

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jerryls - 26 Apr 2006 19:05 GMT
I have a Cadillac Cimmeron 86. It has been sitting unstarted in a heated
garage since 1992. My guess is that the gas is now dried tar or
something close to it. Aside from putting in a new battery, I imagine I
should somehow clean and drain the gas tank if possible. Any ideas on
this would be greatly appretiated.

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Steve - 26 Apr 2006 21:10 GMT
> I have a Cadillac Cimmeron 86. It has been sitting unstarted in a heated
> garage since 1992. My guess is that the gas is now dried tar or
> something close to it. Aside from putting in a new battery, I imagine I
> should somehow clean and drain the gas tank if possible. Any ideas on
> this would be greatly appretiated.

Drain and clean the fuel tank, clean all fuel lines, replace fuel
filter. I'd also change the engine oil and filter,  remove all the spark
plugs, spray some penetrating oil in the cylinders, and rotate the
engine with the plugs out to make sure the rings aren't seized to the
walls. Drain and flush the cooling system, replace belts and hoses. Even
with all that, odds are that there's been some deterioration while
sitting. If the oil wasn't changed for a long time before it was parked,
acids in the oil may have etched the bearings pretty badly. Any
corrosion on the cylinder walls will abrade the rings and increase oil
consumption, etc.

On the other hand- its a Cadillac Cimarron. The world won't shed tears
if it self-destructs when you start it ;-) (Sorry, couldn't resist).
John S. - 26 Apr 2006 22:03 GMT
And in addition, pay close attention to seals.  Some may have dried out
and there's a good chance it will spring a leak somewhere.  Also, test
the brake system thoroughly before driving any distance.
Steve B. - 27 Apr 2006 02:16 GMT
>I have a Cadillac Cimmeron 86. It has been sitting unstarted in a heated
>garage since 1992. My guess is that the gas is now dried tar or
>something close to it. Aside from putting in a new battery, I imagine I
>should somehow clean and drain the gas tank if possible. Any ideas on
>this would be greatly appretiated.

You need to drain the tank and pull it to see what is inside.  Many
radiator shops can "boil out" the tank and make it good as new. Change
the sock filter and make sure the lines are clear.

All your belts, hoses and fluids will need to be changed.  The brake
master cylinder and wheel cylinders will need to be changed.  Good
idea to go ahead and change the rubber lines while you have it apart.
After that many years of sitting there will be damage to those parts
that can result in a catastrophic failure.  Don't assume that just
because the brakes work now (if they do) that it is safe.

               Steve B.
fiveiron@webtv.net - 27 Apr 2006 03:10 GMT
wow!!! after all the scary comments about your cimmeron, - unless there
is a strong

sentimental value attached to the car, I might advertise it "as is" - a
stored car for

10 years with a reasonable price stated, and put the proceeds in your
pocket, or

buy another car.

surely you are not going to do ALL the suggested pre-start preps -
without knowing more about it's condition.

In another few years it will take on another classification.

ps - you might be lucky with your project, hope so, expect the worst,
hope for the best.<s>

mho
vƒe

>double dog dare you, sound familiar?

>to reduce your driving by  -  10%.
Huw - 29 Apr 2006 20:30 GMT
> I have a Cadillac Cimmeron 86. It has been sitting unstarted in a
> heated garage since 1992. My guess is that the gas is now dried tar or
> something close to it. Aside from putting in a new battery, I imagine
> I should somehow clean and drain the gas tank if possible. Any ideas
> on this would be greatly appretiated.

Back in 1976 I was working in Scotland. Working with me was a mad New
Zealander who found a Mercedes car which had been abandoned in a back garden
for over 10 years and which was covered in green moss. After changing the
mechanical fuel pump he drove it 15 miles home and treated it to an oil,
brake fluid and tyre change [with used tyres] and a wash before driving it
all the way to Munich in Germany for their beer festival. He drove it for a
few months after that before flying back to NZ and had no serious problem
with it. Oh, and he did change the wiper bleades at some point as I remember
it.
It cost him one small sack of potatoes to buy.

Huw
Alex Rodriguez - 01 May 2006 22:37 GMT
>I have a Cadillac Cimmeron 86. It has been sitting unstarted in a heated
>garage since 1992. My guess is that the gas is now dried tar or
>something close to it. Aside from putting in a new battery, I imagine I
>should somehow clean and drain the gas tank if possible. Any ideas on
>this would be greatly appretiated.

My first question is 'why bother'?  These were crappy cars when they were new.
A Chevy cavalier with some added chrome.  I wouldn't waste my time.  Best
bet is try to sell the car to someon who doesn't know any better or to part
it out.  
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Alex
Don - 03 May 2006 00:35 GMT
>>I have a Cadillac Cimmeron 86. It has been sitting unstarted in a heated
>>garage since 1992. My guess is that the gas is now dried tar or
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>
>My first question is 'why bother'?  These were crappy cars when they were new.

That is a very charitable statment.

>A Chevy cavalier with some added chrome.

Exactly.

Don
www.donsautomotive.com

>  I wouldn't waste my time.  Best
>bet is try to sell the car to someon who doesn't know any better

Good luck!

> or to part it out.  
>------------
>Alex
 
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