My 1998 Windstar with the 3.8L engine loses coolant. The cooling system
has been pressure tested twice, no external leaks were found.
I understand these engines are prone to timing cover gasket and lower
intake manifold gasket leaks. How do I determine if one of the problems
is the reason I am losing coolant? I'm trying to make a decision about
whether to repair or keep the car, so I'd like to know where the
coolant is going.
The transmission has problems and needs to be rebuilt. Before I fix
that, I want to be aware of all the problems so that I can make a good
decision about how to proceed.
> My 1998 Windstar with the 3.8L engine loses coolant. The cooling system
> has been pressure tested twice, no external leaks were found.
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> that, I want to be aware of all the problems so that I can make a good
> decision about how to proceed.
If it's not leaking on the ground then it could be a small breech in
the head gasket. I don't know what else it could be.
Does anyone know if the catalytic converter would mask the symptom
from the exhaust?
DanFXR - 01 May 2006 14:03 GMT
When the engine is hot open the hood and look for a small amount off steam
in the area to the rear of the timing chain cover.I had a small external
leak that leaked onto the hot engine and burnt off before hitting the
ground.All I noticed was a small amount of "steam"behind the engine.
$480 for a timing cover gasket repair.
8,000 miles later the trans.went out.
>> My 1998 Windstar with the 3.8L engine loses coolant. The cooling system
>> has been pressure tested twice, no external leaks were found.
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> Does anyone know if the catalytic converter would mask the symptom
> from the exhaust?
> My 1998 Windstar with the 3.8L engine loses coolant. The cooling system
> has been pressure tested twice, no external leaks were found.
Then the test was not performed properly, or you have internal leaks.
> I understand these engines are prone to timing cover gasket
Timing cover coolnat leaks will cause coolant to mix with your oil. That
should be easy to see on the dip stick.
> and lowerintake manifold gasket leaks.
Intake gasket leaks may cause oil and water to mix or may just leak coolant
into the intake system.
> How do I determine if one of the problemsis the reason I am losing
coolant? I'm trying to make a decision about
> whether to repair or keep the car, so I'd like to know where the
> coolant is going.
>
> The transmission has problems and needs to be rebuilt. Before I fix
> that, I want to be aware of all the problems so that I can make a good
> decision about how to proceed.
Have a technician pull the spark plugs and read them for signs of coolant
getting into the combustion chamber. An experienced tech should be able to
tell. If they all show signs of coolant then the intake gasket is leaking.
If only one or some of them show signs of coolant then the head gasket is
leaking and /or you have a cracked head. A pressure test with the spark
plugs removed or using a gas analyzer to sniff the radiator filler will also
verify a leaking head gasket (hopefully not a cracked head). Only
disassembly will tell for sure.
Another test would be a cylinder leak down test. That will tell you if
compression is getting into the cooling system and it will indicate which
cylinders are affected.
There are ways to diagnose your problem. You just need to find a qualified
technician. (sometimes easier said than done), but if you ask him about
performing the above mentioned tests and he seems to understand how to do
them, then at least you've got a chance.

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KC - 01 May 2006 02:24 GMT
Thanks for the detailed answer Kevin - it was very helpful.
KC - 02 May 2006 01:25 GMT
Was thinking another option would be to get the engine oil analyzed and
see if the lab finds any coolant in with the oil.