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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / May 2006starter problems
I have a 69 ford 302 that i recently rebuilt, and i just put it back into the car. I had it all assembled and ready to go, but i couldnt turn the engine over by hand wiht a breaker bar, or with the starter motor itself. I then oiled the cylinder walls (for rust), but it still wouldnt turn. The i removed the fuel pump. still wouldnt turn. Finally i removed the starter moter, and it spun freely by hand. So i am pretty sure i had the starter motor in crooked, because the starter motor worked on the old engine fine, and i remeber it was a pain in the a.s to install. Does anybody know how to align a starter motor to prevent this? is it just trial and error? Is the mis-alignment of the starter really my problem? Also, the gear on the starter motor seems pretty warn, and I was wondering if there is a rule of thumb as to when it is too warn? Thanks alot for your time! >because the starter motor worked on the old engine fine, and i remeber it was a pain in the a.s to install. was that starter ever on that motor? if not it might be wrong, take a good look at it. were there any shims at the mounting surface? if you think the starter drive is worn, change it...rule of thumb, its easyer to do it right now than re-do it later..I would swap out the whole starter, not just the drive. This is somewhat unusual. Going from memory, Fords of that era did not use shims....ever. Maybe someone with access to documented resources can confirm or deny that. Did you use the old flywheel that was on the original engine? There may have been other variations of flywheels, I guess, which would maybe cause some problems with your installation. As the other poster suggested, I would replace the starter drive. I would also check out the flywheel for application, runout, etc. I did have a Mustang once that ate starter drives. Turned out the flywheel was warped (had been in a wreck) and had to be replaced. > I have a 69 ford 302 that i recently rebuilt, and i just put it back > into the car. I had it all assembled and ready to go, but i couldnt [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Thanks alot for your time! Well, your 302 starter is mounted to the tranny bellhousing, unlike a Chevy small block starter that bolts to the engine block. Unlike Chevy, Ford never had a starter alignment problem either, at least on the 302. (Anybody remember the shims on Chevy starters?!) First, the Ford small block used at least 3 sizes of flexplates. Are you sure you used the proper one? Did you put the piece of metal back in between the engine and the tranny? (the block plate) There were different bellhousings available also. Did you swap your out with a different one? Got any more details to give us? everything is exactly the same as before, just a new rotating assembly. the same flexplate, the piece of metal inbetween block and bellhousing is the same, same bellhouseing and same starter. when i installed the starter, i had to drill out some metal on that thin metal plate between block and bellhousing, but only on that metal and none from bellhousing or block. How can things be 'exactly the same' if you had to drill out parts to make it fit? Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > everything is exactly the same as before, just a new rotating assembly. > the same flexplate, the piece of metal inbetween block and bellhousing > is the same, same bellhouseing and same starter. when i installed the > starter, i had to drill out some metal on that thin metal plate between > block and bellhousing, but only on that metal and none from bellhousing > or block. |
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