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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / June 2006

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Lawnmower engine question - nasty kickback when starting

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Gary Emerson - 07 Jun 2006 14:43 GMT
I've got an MTD mower w/ a Briggs and Stratton engine on it.  The thing,
however is really unsafe in that it kicks back aggressively when I try
to start it.  It will rip the starter cord from my hand with ease.  I
don't see any way to adjust the ignition timing.  Wondered if anyone
here had any thoughts?  I now have a new mower, and if there isn't an
easy fix I'm going to trash the old one, but if I could eliminate the
kickback then I'd feel ok putting it out for a garage sale and not feel
bad about it.  As it stands now, it's dangerous.

Thanks,

Gary
Steve W. - 07 Jun 2006 15:37 GMT
Pull the flywheel and replace the key, sounds like it is partially
sheared. About a 20 cent part.

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> I've got an MTD mower w/ a Briggs and Stratton engine on it.  The thing,
> however is really unsafe in that it kicks back aggressively when I try
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> Gary
N8N - 07 Jun 2006 15:45 GMT
What Steve said.  happens quite frequently if you have a yard that has
a lot of rocks, stumps, debris, etc. in it.

nate

> Pull the flywheel and replace the key, sounds like it is partially
> sheared. About a 20 cent part.
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HLS@nospam.nix - 07 Jun 2006 17:11 GMT
> What Steve said.  happens quite frequently if you have a yard that has
> a lot of rocks, stumps, debris, etc. in it.
>
> nate

This is the most common problem.
Some of them had 'somewhat' adjustable timing, but I too believe
that a damaged woodruff key is the most likely issue.

I have a Briggs and Stratton service manual for a number of the engines.
If you need further info, give me your model number and Ill take a look.
lugnut - 07 Jun 2006 20:08 GMT
>I've got an MTD mower w/ a Briggs and Stratton engine on it.  The thing,
>however is really unsafe in that it kicks back aggressively when I try
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>
>Gary

Replace the flywheel key.  It can/will do this - or not even
run - with the key almost imperceptably offset.  You should
keep several keys on hand if you can afford less than a
quarter each.  It saves the aggravation of going after a new
one.  There are several net site with an exploded view so
youcan see it.  There may also be good service instructions.
It really is a simple service procedure.

Lugnut
Gary Emerson - 07 Jun 2006 20:37 GMT
I'll take a look see about pulling the flywheel this afternoon.  Before
I got the mower, someone else had pranged the blade pretty good and I'd
replaced it and early on this issue with the backfiring was minimal so
I'd forgotten about it the original blade - Never realized that the
flywheel could move without coming completely loose.  Many thanks to all
who responded!
jim - 07 Jun 2006 20:46 GMT
> I'll take a look see about pulling the flywheel this afternoon.  Before
> I got the mower, someone else had pranged the blade pretty good and I'd
> replaced it and early on this issue with the backfiring was minimal so
> I'd forgotten about it the original blade - Never realized that the
> flywheel could move without coming completely loose.

It is designed to spin on the end of the crank. This prevents the
crankshaft from being damaged by the torque of the flywheel when it is
suddenly stopped by running it into a an immovable object. Do not
replace the soft metal key with a steel one or the next time you run
into that tree stump it will be the last.

-Jim
lugnut - 07 Jun 2006 21:59 GMT
>I'll take a look see about pulling the flywheel this afternoon.  Before
>I got the mower, someone else had pranged the blade pretty good and I'd
>replaced it and early on this issue with the backfiring was minimal so
>I'd forgotten about it the original blade - Never realized that the
>flywheel could move without coming completely loose.  Many thanks to all
>who responded!

Sounds like the problem started when the blade got bent
which is common.  Be sure you only use an aluminum key
designed for the Briggs.  It is intended to shear instead of
holding all the energy which can/will damage the crank.

Lugnut
Gary Emerson - 07 Jun 2006 23:04 GMT
Exactly what had happened.  Took a while to get the flywheel off, but it
was off about 90 degrees with the key sheared.  Replaced it with a
Briggs key and it runs like a top on the first pull.  Again, many thanks!
 
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