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Buying a used Honda -- a bit of a dilema ... please help me out ...

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Daniel - 29 Apr 2004 21:03 GMT
Hello,

After much research of what to ask and what to look for I'm in the market
for a used Honda. My budget is no more than $5000 CND. I know how risky it
can be buying private, especially if one doesn't know much about this sort
of thing etc ... Sure, I'd inspect the car (even with the aid of a mechanic
etc ..) and ask for CarFax/CIBC report etc .. but there's still some risk
involved as private persons are not obligated to disclose certain issues
that perhaps the reports don't show. Sure, it's still a much safer way to
buy but it's not risk free. Anyway, that brings me to my next comment and
question: I found a 10 year old used Honda Civic being sold at a respectable
Honda dealership for about the same price of other "private sales". They
deal with new and used. Ok, so won't this this be a much safer deal ? I was
told that when they get these used cars, they check 'em out thoroughly and
only put them on the road when they deem it in perfect working condition.
(That takes care of getting a mechanic to inspect the car part). They also
have to disclose, by law, all the history of the car like accidents etc ...
(That takes care of the reports etc ... ). So, even if you can't negotiate
like you would with "private" sales, isn't it worth getting a good used
Honda from a Honda dealership ? Please advise!

Thanks so much for your help in advance! :))

Daniel
txgizmo@earthlink.net - 30 Apr 2004 00:57 GMT
What makes you think that you can't negotiate with a dealer?
What kind of warranty do they offer.  You can't get that from a
private sale.

>Hello,
>
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>
>Daniel
Daniel - 04 May 2004 22:17 GMT
> What makes you think that you can't negotiate with a dealer?
> What kind of warranty do they offer.  You can't get that from a
> private sale.

Ok, thanks,

Daniel

> >Hello,
> >
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> >
> >Daniel
Dick C - 05 May 2004 03:34 GMT
Daniel wrote in alt.autos

>> What makes you think that you can't negotiate with a dealer?
>> What kind of warranty do they offer.  You can't get that from a
>> private sale.
>
> Ok, thanks,

By the way, we bought a car from a dealer a few months ago. It was
priced at the KBB dealer price, we got it for 1200 less, at the KBB
private party price.

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Dick C - 30 Apr 2004 02:28 GMT
Daniel wrote in alt.autos

> Hello,
>
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> there's still some risk involved as private persons are not obligated to
> disclose certain issues that perhaps the reports don't show.

There is as much, if not more, risk from buying from used car dealers.
As a matter of fact, often times people get screwed royally buying from
used car dealers. They have the experience in hooking suckers. They have
the know how and money to make a P.O.S. look like a super great car, and
then selling it for top price.
When you buy from a private party, you get a better price right off the
bat, you also can see who drove the car, how he/she cared for it, and
more likely be able to find out what is wrong with the car. The car
dealer quite likely bought it at an auction, and really doesn't know
a thing about it.
The only dealers that won't overly screw you are the new car dealers that
have an excellent reputation, and do not advertise on late night TV or
run Huge adds offering all sorts of special deals, or financing or
try to make there normal everyday business sound like some special
event that only a few are able to participate in.

Sure, it's
> still a much safer way to buy but it's not risk free. Anyway, that
> brings me to my next comment and question: I found a 10 year old used
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> road when they deem it in perfect working condition. (That takes care of
> getting a mechanic to inspect the car part).

No it doesn't. And you are confusing the Certified Honda Used Car program
with the rest of the cars. The certified program only applies to newer
cars with under a certain mileage. Go to
http://www.hondacars.com/certified/landing.asp
or www.honda.com and click on cars/Honda/Certified Used
That is a good program, but they will not certify a ten year old car.

They also have to disclose,
> by law, all the history of the car like accidents etc ... (That takes
> care of the reports etc ... ). So, even if you can't negotiate like you
> would with "private" sales, isn't it worth getting a good used Honda
> from a Honda dealership ? Please advise!

Only if you buy a car that is certified, and 5 grand isn't enough.

> Thanks so much for your help in advance! :))
>
> Daniel

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Daniel - 04 May 2004 22:16 GMT
> Daniel wrote in alt.autos
>
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> >
> > Daniel

Ok, thank you very much for the thorough explanation. Really appreciate it!

Daniel
Dick C - 05 May 2004 03:31 GMT
Daniel wrote in alt.autos

>> Daniel wrote in alt.autos
>> No it doesn't. And you are confusing the Certified Honda Used Car
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Ok, thank you very much for the thorough explanation. Really appreciate
> it!

Sure, no problem. I read about things here, and then decide to research
them. Someone had mentioned the Honda Certified Used Car program on another
Newsgroup, so I checked it out. It is easy to understand, and sounds like
a great thing.
As noted, if you go through the Honda Certified Program you will get a
good car, the same should hold with similar programs through other
manufacturers. However, look out for the dealer. I can see some shady
dealer trying to indicate that all the cars are in the program when they
aren't.

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Damn it . . . Don't you dare ask God to help me.
To her housekeeper, who had begun to pray aloud.
~~ Joan Crawford, actress, d. May 10, 1977
Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
email: dickcr@comcast.net

 
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