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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / June 2004Why Are Canadian Gas Prices Down While U.S. Prices Are Up--Way Up?
In Canadian units of measure and currency, average gasoline prices over the last two years are down about a half cent: June 2002, 77.2 June 2004, 76.8 In American units of measure and currency, gasoline prices over the last two years are up about 59 cents: June 2002, 1.41 June 2004, 2.00 http://www.runzheimer.com/corpc/news/scripts/123002c.asp http://www.energy.gov.on.ca/index.cfm?fuseaction=oilandgas.gasreport http://www.runzheimer.com/corpc/news/scripts/121802.asp http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=42069 >In Canadian units of measure and currency, average gasoline prices >over the last two years are down about a half cent: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >June 2002, 1.41 >June 2004, 2.00 I don't know where you get your info but CDN gas prices are up as much as outs --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Because of the current email spam attacks my email account is not included, reply via the newsgroups or ask for a valid email address. > In Canadian units of measure and currency, average gasoline prices > over the last two years are down about a half cent: > June 2002, 77.2 In mid June 2002 that would have been 0.50 US > June 2004, 76.8 Now that is 0.56 US But 76.8 was the June 2004 price for Ontario only. The average Canadian price was 85.6 or 62.5 US Also there's something suspicious about the way they calculate prices in that second reference. When showing Ontario averages they say Toronto East 74.4 and Toronto West 72.5 but when they do the national average they show Toronto as 80.0 > In American units of measure and currency, gasoline prices over the > last two years are up about 59 cents: > > June 2002, 1.41 > June 2004, 2.00 > http://www.runzheimer.com/corpc/news/scripts/123002c.asp > http://www.energy.gov.on.ca/index.cfm?fuseaction=oilandgas.gasreport > http://www.runzheimer.com/corpc/news/scripts/121802.asp > http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=42069  SignatureDon Dickson > > In Canadian units of measure and currency, average gasoline prices > > over the last two years are down about a half cent: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > http://www.runzheimer.com/corpc/news/scripts/121802.asp > > http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=42069 Also it may not be proper to pick the current date because for whatever reason gas prices in southern Ontario have gone down 0.10 to 0.18 in the last 2 weeks. Gas in the Toronto area was all about 0.90 at the beginning of June so who knows where it will be 2 weeks from now. And when you get into Northern Ontario gas is still in the 0.95 range. SignatureDon Dickson > Also it may not be proper to pick the current date because for whatever reason > gas prices in southern Ontario have gone down 0.10 to 0.18 in the last 2 weeks. > Gas in the Toronto area was all about 0.90 at the beginning of June so who knows > where it will be 2 weeks from now. And when you get into Northern Ontario gas is > still in the 0.95 range. It is entirely possible that prices have dropped that much. Where I live, prices went as high as $2.099 for regular unleaded and have dropped back to $1.839 per gallon. Prices went up real fast and came down real fast. > > Also it may not be proper to pick the current date because for whatever > reason [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > and have dropped back to $1.839 per gallon. Prices went up > real fast and came down real fast. Wish I lived there. Prices here (Portland, Oregon) hit $2.32 for regular unleaded. Currently the best price I can now find is $2.15 per gallon. Still waiting for them to come back down to the $1.75 per gallon we saw in January. Brent, Be careful what you wish for. I'm glad I'm not paying Canadian prices, I believe this is the price per liter of fuel. With 3.785412 liters to the gallon, their price is not a good deal. Regards, Ron > > > Also it may not be proper to pick the current date because for whatever > > reason [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Still waiting for them to come back down to the $1.75 per gallon we saw in > January. > Be careful what you wish for. I'm glad I'm not paying Canadian prices, I > believe this is the price per liter of fuel. With 3.785412 liters to the > gallon, their price is not a good deal. 3.78 L X .969/L divide by 1.37 to get 'gallon' price in Canada in US dollars for comparison = $2.67 Gal. Stick with what you got. R Bull sh.t. Our gas is up near or over $0.90 per liter now in Ontario Canada. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > In Canadian units of measure and currency, average gasoline prices > over the last two years are down about a half cent: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > http://www.runzheimer.com/corpc/news/scripts/121802.asp > http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=42069 cliff84373@yahoo.co.uk () wrote in news:6aa1435d.0406161003.196bdf54 @posting.google.com: > In Canadian units of measure and currency, average gasoline prices > over the last two years are down about a half cent: > > June 2002, 77.2 > June 2004, 76.8 Where'd that number come from? > http://www.energy.gov.on.ca/index.cfm?fuseaction=oilandgas.gasreport For June 15: Canada Average 85.7 cents/Liter SignatureBert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@visi.com > > June 2002, 77.2 > > June 2004, 76.8 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Canada Average 85.7 cents/Liter Sounds pretty low to me! Here on Vancouver Island it is around 95.5 and as much as 98.9 in some areas Take a look at http://www.gastips.com/ Mo > cliff84373@yahoo.co.uk () wrote in news:6aa1435d.0406161003.196bdf54 > @posting.google.com: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Canada Average 85.7 cents/Liter Gack! There are 3.785411784 liters in a gallon. That multiplied * .857 = $3.24 CDN, or converted is $2.36 a gallon. That's truly ugly. > In Canadian units of measure and currency, average gasoline prices > over the last two years are down about a half cent: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > June 2002, 1.41 > June 2004, 2.00 Those are Canadian prices in cents per liter. The American gas prices are in dollars per gallon OK about 4 liters per gallon . That means a US gallon of gas, in Canada, costs about 4 X 77.2 or 3.09 Canadian dollars per US gallon. One Canadian Dollar is about .72 US dollar Therefore, a US gallon of gas, bought in Canada, would cost about 2.22 US dollars. which is about the right price , allowing for different government tax rates....... That's not so far out of line, is it.....????? Now, WHY did gas go up so much faster in the US than in Canada ? Answer is the same as the TV gives ---- supply and demand. Demand in higher in US than in Canada ..... (after all, in Canada they use sled dogs a lot to go to the store) In the US, we use the car to go across the street to the neighbor's house.... Same reason that prices are a lot higher in California than in North Texas......... supply and demand.... ( people want to leave California --- people in Texas don't care much about moving out...... (grin) ) Anyway, I just wanted to screw around with the numbers... Thanks for the "heads up"....... Andy in Fink, Texas It's because we're getting screwed.-Jitney > It's because we're getting screwed.-Jitney Prices in Hamilton, Ontario yesterday ranged from 69.9 per litre to 71.9 per litre but in my small town of Port Dover the price was at 83.8 per litre. SignatureRon P Sometimes you're the windshield:) Sometimes you're the bug:( Canada produces 200% of energy needs and sells the rest. The US produces 40% its energy needs and buys the rest. Kindergarten economics. I dunno. Is the gasoline used in Canada exactly the same formulation as the US? > In Canadian units of measure and currency, average gasoline prices > over the last two years are down about a half cent: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > http://www.runzheimer.com/corpc/news/scripts/121802.asp > http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=42069 It is simple. Canadians don't have former oil company executives in charge of their government. Bush, Cheney, Rice and GREED are responsible for the price rise. PJ > It is simple. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > PJ Sometimes it makes me wonder why some people are allowed to use good oxygen. Hey Peanuthead, explain your statements please. Signature"Your money does not cause my poverty. Refusal to believe this is at the bottom of most bad economic thinking." --P. J. O'Rourke http://www.bobhatch.com > > It is simple. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > PJ > Hey Peanuthead, explain your statements please. Sure, If the current US government was not controlled by those connected to the oil industry they would have take action to stem the high prices. For example; Prohibit us oil producers from raising prices to world levels. Stop buying and adding oil to the US oil reserves until world prices came down. Release a portion of the US oil reserves to the US market. Temporarily cease exporting Alaska oil to Japan and instead send it to the states. Tax at a 100% rate all excess profits of US oil companies. Call for a ban on unnecessary travel on Sundays. I am sure that other, even better methods than the ones I have suggested could be found if our government was not controlled by these people.. PJ > For example; > Prohibit us oil producers from raising prices to world levels. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I am sure that other, even better methods than the ones I have suggested could be found if our > government was not controlled by these people.. You should change you name to PinHead. Not a single one of your proposals is a good idea. > Sure, If the current US government was not controlled by those connected to > the oil industry they > would have take action to stem the > high prices. Your suggestions would make the government into an economic dictatorship. > For example; > Prohibit us oil producers from raising prices to world levels. And to be fair to people in other industries, prohibit importing less expensive foreign goods which benefit the consumer but cause a trade deficit. > Stop buying and adding oil to the US oil reserves until world prices came > down. And send the stock market into a spin because everyone would be afraid of the potential disastrous consequences on the US economy of depleting the reserves and having their buddies in Saudi Arabia decide to cut production. > Release a portion of the US oil reserves to the US market. > > Temporarily cease exporting Alaska oil to Japan and instead send it to the > states. And wonder why other countries might just stop exporting oil to the US to take advantage of the Japanese market. > Tax at a 100% rate all excess profits of US oil companies. Who is going to define "excess"? Those same people just might be in a position to say that people are taking home "excess" cash and tax it at 100%. > Call for a ban on unnecessary travel on Sundays. Again who get to define "unnecessary"? Why not ban all cars from the road that aren't carrying at least 4 people. That would cut gas consumption, reduce air pollution and probably eliminate most rush hour traffic problems. > I am sure that other, even better methods than the ones I have suggested > could be found if our > government was not controlled by these people.. Yes there is certainly a concentration of people with "oil" connections heading the government. However they were nominated by the Republicans because they could win. Maybe the Democrats should toss out Kerry and recruit a whole bunch of Hollywood actors to run the country. Seems to work in California. ;-)) SignatureDon Dickson > > Call for a ban on unnecessary travel on Sundays. > > Again who get to define "unnecessary"? Why not ban all cars from the > road that aren't carrying at least 4 people. That would cut gas > consumption, reduce air pollution and probably eliminate most rush > hour traffic problems. Going to be kind of hard to fit 4 people in my Corvette. > > > Call for a ban on unnecessary travel on Sundays. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > hour traffic problems. > Going to be kind of hard to fit 4 people in my Corvette. Then ban Corvettes until they get a back seat. ;-)) SignatureDon Dickson > > Sure, If the current US government was not controlled by those connected to > > the oil industry they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Your suggestions would make the government into an economic > dictatorship. Price controls were used in the US during WW1 and WW2. When the emergency was over the controls ended. How else would you fight the dictatorship of the Arab nations? PJ | Price controls were used in the US during WW1 and WW2. When the emergency was over the controls | ended. We were not energy dependent in those days. | How else would you fight the dictatorship of the Arab nations? Reduce our dependency on their oil by reducing consumption, producing more at home and bringing in more oil from Russia. >| How else would you fight the dictatorship of the >| Arab nations? > Reduce our dependency on their oil by reducing > consumption, producing more at home and bringing > in more oil from Russia. Oh, great; so we could go from being dependent on Arab oil to being dependent on Russian oil. I don't see that as being much of a net gain, given the diplomatic maneuvering of the last couple of years. Or we could solve the underlying problem once and for all by turning the entire Gulf region into an American-occupied protectorate, as we should've done a quarter of a century ago. That way we wouldn't *need* to reduce our consumption. As my father used to say, would we rather pull the pro- verbial Band-Aid off all at once -- or one hair at a time? Hell, if the oil-rich regions of the Middle East were placed under the American bootheel, I'd buy a Ford Expedition just for the symbolic value. Of course, opening up the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling would be a step in the right direction. Geoff SignatureBomb the Arab Street. > >| Arab nations? > > bringing in more oil from Russia. What country is the #1 supplier of oil to the US ? And Down there V Canada >> >| Arab nations? >> > bringing in more oil from Russia. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Canada I think you want to check your sources. Here is one: http://urlbee.com?41 hth, tom ***************** Check Us Out ***************** http://www.CarFleaMarket.com Bringing back low-cost online car ads to the web! > | Price controls were used in the US during WW1 and WW2. When the emergency was > over the controls > | ended. > We were not energy dependent in those days. Where did you find that lie? During WW11 gas was rationed. You were allowed 3 gallons a week. The arabs were on the side of the Nazis and had cut us off. We had to rely on domestic oil. PJ >> | Price controls were used in the US during WW1 and WW2. When the emergency was >> over the controls [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >PJ I though Saudi Arabia was an ally, that's why the Nazi Millitary campaign in the middle east and northern africa was so strong, to keep them under control. I could be wrong, I only have a public school education. ;) my 2 cents, tom **************** http://www.Intertainia.com *********************************** Our Latest site: http://www.MedicalJobList.com - Hospital Jobs Classifieds. ******************************************************************************* > >> | Price controls were used in the US during WW1 and WW2. When the emergency was > >> over the controls [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > >During WW11 gas was rationed. You were allowed 3 gallons a week. The Arabs were on the side of the > >Nazis and had cut us off. We had to rely on domestic oil. > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > tom How many Arab countries can you name besides Saudi Arabia? How many of them were not controlled by the Nazi's during WW11? How much oil did the US receive from Arab countries during that war? What letter of the alphabet was on the sticker on your car that permitted you to buy 3 gallons of gas in 1943? PJ >> >"James C. Reeves" <jcnospam@nospam.com> wrote in message >news:C8mdnUYilYdLqEvdRVn-vg@comcast.com... [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > >PJ Wow, didn't see this becoming a pissing contest. Ok, you win. Go back to your community room and tell everyone else you remember how to count to three and what letter was on cars in 1943. Might get yourself some extra apple sauce. > >> >"James C. Reeves" <jcnospam@nospam.com> wrote in message > >news:C8mdnUYilYdLqEvdRVn-vg@comcast.com... [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > count to three and what letter was on cars in 1943. Might get > yourself some extra apple sauce. It is time for you to go back and finish your public school education. PJ Because they were way high in 2002 and then came down. Gas in Canada typically runs 25% more than in the US. Diesel OTOH is less expensive. > In Canadian units of measure and currency, average gasoline prices > over the last two years are down about a half cent: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > http://www.runzheimer.com/corpc/news/scripts/121802.asp > http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=42069 I don't know about elsewhere, but today I was able to buy regular unleaded in the twin cities metro area of minnesota for $1.73 a gallon. that was before my $2.00 off coupon for buying at least 8 gallons. > I don't know about elsewhere, but today I was able to > buy regular unleaded in the twin cities metro area > of minnesota for $1.73 a gallon. > > that was before my $2.00 off coupon for buying > at least 8 gallons. $1.759 Denver Metro area yesterday. |
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