could driving with heavily rusted rotors cause a pulsating brake petal???
Just pulled the vehicle out of storage..trying to figure out whats causing
it?
everything else on brake system looks ok?
jdoe - 25 Aug 2004 14:26 GMT
Yes they can.
Larry
> could driving with heavily rusted rotors cause a pulsating brake petal???
> Just pulled the vehicle out of storage..trying to figure out whats causing
> it?
> everything else on brake system looks ok?
John Ings - 25 Aug 2004 14:53 GMT
>could driving with heavily rusted rotors cause a pulsating brake petal???
>Just pulled the vehicle out of storage..trying to figure out whats causing
>it?
When you drive with rotors that are rusted, there are two
possibilities. If the rust is light, the brake pads will wear it away
quickly, and all is well. If the rust is severe and the rotor is
pitted, the brake pads will wear away instead.
Another possibility is that your caliper pins are sticking.
Better take the wheels off and have a look see.
See also http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm
Diode - 25 Aug 2004 16:41 GMT
mike spoke thusly:
> could driving with heavily rusted rotors cause a pulsating brake petal???
More than likely the rotors are warped.

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Alex Rodriguez - 25 Aug 2004 20:49 GMT
>mike spoke thusly:
>
>> could driving with heavily rusted rotors cause a pulsating brake petal???
>
>More than likely the rotors are warped.
What would cause rotors to warp while in storage?
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Dad - 25 Aug 2004 21:17 GMT
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> What would cause rotors to warp while in storage?
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Maybe they were warped before it was put in storage. Maybe the car was about
used up and was "parked", not stored. Iron inanimate objects seldom
disfigure themselves while in a state of rest. They do rust and they do rust
fast to their mating parts, brake shoes/pads, keeping part of it when it
does move.

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Diode - 26 Aug 2004 05:02 GMT
Alex Rodriguez spoke thusly...
> What would cause rotors to warp while in storage?
What Dad said. The chances are pretty good that they were warped before
the car was parked. It's not all that hard to do...I warp the rotors on
my non-Corvette daily driver frequently. I'm also told that I'm a "late
braker" so I tend to abuse rotors more than most people. I'm putting a
set of Brembos on though. They'll prolly last a lot longer.

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Joel Jacobs - 26 Aug 2004 08:30 GMT
I don't drive my C4 quite as much as I used to and I began to notice a
strange pulsation on braking. I thought something such as warped rotors
were the problem. I mentioned it to my local Chevy dealer who told me the
rotors had rust spots on them from the metallic pads. He said that it was
very rare for a wheel to stop in exactly the same position each time, so
rust spots developed in other spots creating a series of rust spots that
were felt as pulsations on braking.
The car stopped fine, and in a straight line, but the annoying pulsation was
there. A clean up of the rotors with sand paper sorted it all out.
The dealer, second generation, same location 30 years, tells me that cars
that sit on the lot for any time at all have the same problem as the pads
come to rest on the rotors and that in doing so they form rust spots that
are felt as vibrations. It is necessary to give some pretty hard braking to
clean those spots up in order for a customer to not believe that something
is wrong the brakes. That, or they have to take the car into the shop, pull
the wheels, sand the rotors, put the wheels back on the cars to satisfy the
customers that the brakes are okay.
Joel Jacobs
greybeard - 27 Aug 2004 02:16 GMT
Maybe a bit O.T. but the *hard* braking really does help.
I tend to often drive my C4 too "light", and have noticed
several times at a slow speed stop in heavy traffic that I
seem to "run out of brakes" - no matter how much pedal
pressure it feels you're going to climb a tail-pipe.
I figured maybe a bad booster, or? so asked a buddy in the
brake bus. for years ; - he said "you're gettin old - too
soft on it usually - pads/rotors are probably glazed from
"too gentle".
Said go out and spike the brakes from 70 - 80 mph 4 or 5
times in a row to "heat them up & clean them up".
I did, and after 2 or 3 hits they hooked up like dropping an
anchor. Now I make sure I do "excercise" them a bit, and
they work fantastic. They now stop just as well from slow
speed as from high speed.
It seems like the old saw - "drive it like you stole it" is
really good advice.
> I don't drive my C4 quite as much as I used to and I began to notice a
> strange pulsation on braking. I thought something such as warped rotors
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> Joel Jacobs
K - 25 Aug 2004 22:06 GMT
My '02 2500HD is starting to pulsate more and more at any speed. The rear
discs are pitted outboard and inboard and it is driven daily! The fronts
don't look bad, BUT the steering wheel shakes when coming down from hwy
speed so obviously they are warped. Since it is still under warranty, it'll
be going into the dealer to investigate 1. why they are warping and 2. why
the rears are pitting so bad. I've never seen discs pit all over like the
rears are.
> mike spoke thusly:
>
> > could driving with heavily rusted rotors cause a pulsating brake petal???
>
> More than likely the rotors are warped.
newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com - 25 Aug 2004 17:27 GMT
>could driving with heavily rusted rotors cause a pulsating brake petal???
>Just pulled the vehicle out of storage..trying to figure out whats causing
>it?
>everything else on brake system looks ok?
In my experience, if rust exists on the rotor where the pad touch,
then the pads aren't touching. The means the rotor could be a little
'warped' or calipers are 'hung up' both of which can give that
pulsating feeling, and greatly effect your ablity to stop.
Is the rush where the pad and rotor meet?
later,
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RicSeyler - 25 Aug 2004 19:43 GMT
Yea if he drove it even for a mile or two, that would be enough time to wipe
rust off the rotor surface (unless SEVERLY DEEPLY rusted)....
If there is still rust in places, then the rotors are warped.
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Marty - 25 Aug 2004 20:13 GMT
If it's been in storage long enouge to cause that much rust on the rotors, the caliper pistons will probably seize after rotor and pad service. The OP doesn't say what make/model/year the vehicle is,but that is my experience with most GMs with steel pistons in cast calipers.
Yea if he drove it even for a mile or two, that would be enough time to wipe
rust off the rotor surface (unless SEVERLY DEEPLY rusted)....
If there is still rust in places, then the rotors are warped.
newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com wrote:
could driving with heavily rusted rotors cause a pulsating brake petal???
Just pulled the vehicle out of storage..trying to figure out whats causing
it?
everything else on brake system looks ok?
In my experience, if rust exists on the rotor where the pad touch,
then the pads aren't touching. The means the rotor could be a little
'warped' or calipers are 'hung up' both of which can give that
pulsating feeling, and greatly effect your ablity to stop.
Is the rush where the pad and rotor meet?
later,
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master of none - 25 Aug 2004 23:14 GMT
gingerly touch the rotors after a minute of driving (a drive where you
don't have to use the brakes alot), if hot hot hot, your calipers are
sticking in addition to the warpage. Have a blast.
mike - 25 Aug 2004 21:28 GMT
well, in case anyone is curious...it was rusty rotors...cleaned them up real
good with a scotchbrite disk in the drill..working great now!!
I have had cars pulsate on high speed stops before..but never like this one
did..it would literally shake the vehicle!! but all fixed..thanks to all for
your input.
> could driving with heavily rusted rotors cause a pulsating brake petal???
> Just pulled the vehicle out of storage..trying to figure out whats causing
> it?
> everything else on brake system looks ok?