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Ablang - 04 Sep 2004 04:30 GMT
Buy a car, get one free
New Jersey Nissan dealership offers free used car to anyone who buys a
new car.
August 26, 2004: 3:32 PM EDT

NEW YORK, Aug 26 (Reuters) - Buy a car, get one free.

It's hard to believe. But with a deal more commonly seen at clothing
sales, one car dealership in New Jersey has upped the ante to lure
buyers who have become blase about the usual incentives offered on
vehicles these days.

For buyers who purchase any new 2004 or 2005 model Nissan, the Route
46 Nissan dealership in Totowa is giving away a 2003 Nissan Sentra,
usually an off-lease or traded-in vehicle.
       

"We've had a lot of interest and we've had a lot of customers take
advantage of the sale," said Frank Tackett, a partner in the
dealership.

Tackett said the new Nissans in the showroom range in price from
$19,000 to $45,000, while he estimated the value of the second-hand
models being given away at about $11,000.

Since late 2001, the U.S. auto industry has routinely offered
thousands of dollars' worth of incentives per vehicle to boost sales.

Monthly auto sales have dived when automakers tried to pare back the
deals, most recently in June. Sales bounced back in July as the Big
Three automakers hastily slapped the incentives back on.

U.S. car buyers received an average discount of $4,982 on the sticker
price in July, according to the latest report by auto research firm
Edmunds.com. Full-size sport utility vehicles had the largest
discount, of nearly $9,500.

For August, sales reports have been mixed and the official industry
sales data are due on Sept. 1.

Heavy discounting in new vehicles has also driven down the resale
value of many cars, with industry estimates that some less-favored
models hold as little as 20 percent of their original value after five
years.

http://money.cnn.com/2004/08/26/pf/autos/bc.autos.freecar.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes

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    "When you're old, they say that your regrets aren't what you did, but what you didn't do.  So I like to take every opportunity that I can."
        -- Cameron Diaz
Robert  Morein - 04 Sep 2004 06:08 GMT
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ameijers - 04 Sep 2004 15:09 GMT
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This has happened before. As Yugo was going belly-up, several dealers were
giving them away as bonuses when people bought real cars. Sensible people
turned them down. Any car is an expense, but a free Yugo cost money.

And general note- TANSTAAFL. The second car wasn't free, it was buried in
cost of first car.

aem sends...
MikrHunt@mailcity.com - 06 Sep 2004 17:06 GMT
Retail prices of used are is indeed going into the tank. One of
my neighbors just bought his daughter a 1998 Civic for $2,000.
Anyone look at late model used car should be looking at new cars
instead.  Its a buyers market out there.

mike

> Buy a car, get one free
> New Jersey Nissan dealership offers free used car to anyone who buys a
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>      "When you're old, they say that your regrets aren't what you did, but what you didn't do.  So I like to take every opportunity that I can."
>                 -- Cameron Diaz
ameijers - 06 Sep 2004 18:53 GMT
> Retail prices of used are is indeed going into the tank. One of
> my neighbors just bought his daughter a 1998 Civic for $2,000.
> Anyone look at late model used car should be looking at new cars
> instead.  Its a buyers market out there.
>
> mike

Uh, isn't that backwards? Unless you are rich,  if you can get a 2 year old
low mile used car for half of the cost of a new one, why buy new?  Some of
us <never> trade, so residual value is close to meaningless. We drive them
until value stabalizes at next to nothing, or until we don't trust them
anymore, whichever comes first, and sell them in the ad paper for whatever
they bring. (Personally, I won't play the inflated trade rolled into new(er)
vehicle price game.)

aem sends...
MajorDomo@mailcity.com - 06 Sep 2004 21:14 GMT
Depends on ones point of few and their ability to come up with
the bucks ever so often I suppose.  People buy new cars because
they can afford to do so.  The average new car buyer in the US
replaces their vehicle every three
to four years.  People buy used cars, because they can not afford
the payment on a new car, every two ot three years.  People that
buy a new car and keep it till they die are a very small
percentage of buyers.  If you keep them till they die, would not
a new car with no mileage last two years longer than a used car
with two years of mileage when you get it?  When one buys a used
car he can never know for sure how it was used, or abused, of if
it was serviced properly or not.  If a used car has low mileage
it may indicate that the owner changes car often, but it may also
mean the previous owner had problems and dumped it. How do you
know which?   If you are not rich, mostly likely you are limited
on the amount of the monthly payment.  One can get a longer term
loan on a new car than they can on a used car and at a much lower
interest rate.  Why not make a lower payment on a new car, at
lower interest rate, for a year or two longer, now that they are
selling as cheap or cheaper than some used cars. My one son
recently bought a car to commute to work, it is brand new fully
loaded V8 Grand Marquis, for 18K and ZERO interest.  That's a
hell of a lot more car for less money than a two year old loaded
V6 Camry or the price of new a loaded 4 cy VW or Civic, from
dealer that is still trying to get MSRP.

mike hunt

> > Retail prices of used are is indeed going into the tank. One of
> > my neighbors just bought his daughter a 1998 Civic for $2,000.
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>
> aem sends...
ameijers - 06 Sep 2004 23:06 GMT
> Depends on ones point of few and their ability to come up with
> the bucks ever so often I suppose.  People buy new cars because
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> V6 Camry or the price of new a loaded 4 cy VW or Civic, from
> dealer that is still trying to get MSRP.

Well, to each his own, I guess. I'm a cheap SOB, and can't stand the thought
of eating that year 1 depreciation. I'm also old enough that fixing suprises
isn't fun any more, so I look for reliable. I try to split the difference,
making my best guess as to total cost of ownership per mile driven. Again,
being a cheap SOB, I don't finance cars, so interest rates are irrelevant to
me- I have enough cash in bank to buy new, but just can't see any good
reason to. I haven't seen any deep discounts around here on new stuff I'd
care to own. Glad your son likes his GM, and I wish him well with it, but as
a daily driver, I think I'd like the Camry better. (Only Panther platform
that would interest me at all is a P71, but almost all of those get purely
beat to death before they hit resale market.) And going lower on the food
chain, I'd rather have a slightly-used real car than any of the entry-level
new beer cans.

aem sends...
el Diablo - 10 Sep 2004 02:10 GMT
You are 100% correct. You can literally steal a nice used car from the
dealers. They have such good deals on the new vehicles and have saturated
the market over the last few years with new sales, they can't afford to let
the used vehicles on their lot compete for new sales.

Brian

> Retail prices of used are is indeed going into the tank. One of
> my neighbors just bought his daughter a 1998 Civic for $2,000.
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> > models hold as little as 20 percent of their original value after five
> > years.

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> > ==
> >      "When you're old, they say that your regrets aren't what you did, but what you didn't do.  So I like to take every opportunity that I can."
> >                 -- Cameron Diaz
 
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