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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / August 2004

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PM in used car classifieds?

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Thomas - 29 Aug 2004 03:30 GMT
i've been hunting around for a used car and i came across the acronym
"PM". i know that PB is power brakes and pw is power windows and ps
steering etc., anybody have any clues, one thought is power mirrors, as
in you can electronically control your side mirrors from the drivers
seat, any insight is appreciated
Scotty - 29 Aug 2004 04:10 GMT
and a prize to this man.

> i've been hunting around for a used car and i came across the acronym
> "PM". i know that PB is power brakes and pw is power windows and ps
> steering etc., anybody have any clues, one thought is power mirrors, as
> in you can electronically control your side mirrors from the drivers
> seat, any insight is appreciated
David Z - 29 Aug 2004 05:00 GMT
Yes well, you can hardly blame him.  Power mirrors are something that some
Australians are only just now becoming aquainted with, as they begin trading
in their 20 year old junk heaps for their new 'hey ma look - i gots me a
1990 car!'

> and a prize to this man.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> in you can electronically control your side mirrors from the drivers
>> seat, any insight is appreciated
Diesel Damo - 30 Aug 2004 05:49 GMT
> Australians are only just now becoming aquainted with, as they begin trading
> in their 20 year old junk heaps for their new 'hey ma look - i gots me a
> 1990 car!'

I believe XF Falcs had power mirrors. They were 1986/1987.
Ross Wonderley - 30 Aug 2004 23:38 GMT
> > Australians are only just now becoming aquainted with, as they begin trading
> > in their 20 year old junk heaps for their new 'hey ma look - i gots me a
> > 1990 car!'
>
> I believe XF Falcs had power mirrors. They were 1986/1987.

My 1985 XF S-Pack didn't. They were remote in the sense they had those
joystick things, but they weren't power operated. Mybe the '86 onwards
ones or the Fairmonts did.
Graham W - 30 Aug 2004 12:40 GMT
> Yes well, you can hardly blame him.  Power mirrors are something that some
> Australians are only just now becoming aquainted with, as they begin trading
> in their 20 year old junk heaps for their new 'hey ma look - i gots me a
> 1990 car!'

If Australians are all trading in their 20 year old cars on 14 year old
cars, who has been owning the cars before they get to the Australians?

There is *NO* significant movement of second hand cars into or out of
Australia.

Unless you're going to start claiming that "Australians" own the old end
of the market and non-naturalised immigrants and backpackers buy all the
new cars, you're talking complete nonsense.
David Z - 30 Aug 2004 12:50 GMT
>> Yes well, you can hardly blame him.  Power mirrors are something that
>> some Australians are only just now becoming aquainted with, as they begin
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> If Australians are all trading in their 20 year old cars on 14 year old
> cars, who has been owning the cars before they get to the Australians?

I think you should read it again.  I said *some* Australians.
athol - 31 Aug 2004 04:30 GMT
In aus.cars Graham W <zebedee@alphalink.commercial.au> wrote:

>> Yes well, you can hardly blame him.  Power mirrors are something that some
>> Australians are only just now becoming aquainted with, as they begin trading
>> in their 20 year old junk heaps for their new 'hey ma look - i gots me a
>> 1990 car!'

> If Australians are all trading in their 20 year old cars on 14 year old
> cars, who has been owning the cars before they get to the Australians?

> There is *NO* significant movement of second hand cars into or out of
> Australia.

The second hand car market has a distinct growth area in 15 to 17 yo
cars, from Japan and Hong Kong in particular.  Lots of upmarket spec
versions of Jap models where more basic models were originally sold in
AU and quite a few nice EU models, particularly Mercedes Benz from HK.

The low-volume compliance scheme was bringing in enough late model
vehicles that bypassed the manufacturers and importers that the feral
govco tightened up a lot.  Mind you, some of the imports were poorly
modified to comply with the ADRs and tightening the rules was well
justified...

David Z is still wrong, and still a total f*wit.  The volume of imports
are _over_ 15 yo at the time of arrival in AU.  That's '89 models ATM,
not '90.  :-)

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Conehead - 29 Aug 2004 12:35 GMT
> i've been hunting around for a used car and i came across the acronym
> "PM". i know that PB is power brakes and pw is power windows and ps
> steering etc., anybody have any clues, one thought is power mirrors, as
> in you can electronically control your side mirrors from the drivers
> seat, any insight is appreciated

It stands for 'poofter magnet'  It _was_ a Jaguar, I presume?

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