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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / October 2004

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Is it possible to modify an engine to improve gas mileage

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Mark - 15 Sep 2004 16:36 GMT
I was wondering if it is possible to modify an engine to improve
performance.  I don't have the funds for something new, but want to improve
the horrible mileage I'm getting.  I have already done all the basics, like
tire pressure, changing driving habits, etc.   I want to make some mods, and
wonder if anyone can make recommendations.

Specifically, I am considering:

Under drive pulleys
High flow exhaust
Mod chip for computer
Performance spark plugs
New gears

Thanks for your input.
Bob G. - 15 Sep 2004 17:39 GMT
>I was wondering if it is possible to modify an engine to improve
>performance.  I don't have the funds for something new, but want to improve
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>
>Thanks for your input.

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It would help to know what engine you now have in your car ... AND
what you really want to accomplish... Go Faster? Stop Faster?. Corner
Better?           Save on Fuel        ??????  
Bob Griffiths
Mark - 15 Sep 2004 20:34 GMT
Thanks for the response, Bob.

I have an 01 Nissan Xterra, V6.  I mainly want to improve the mileage, which
is 16 right now.  That is what it was rated at when I purchased it.  If I
get more HP, better braking, etc. as a by product, then that's great.  The
truck needs to last me for about 4 more years, so I want to get all the mpg
out that I can.

>>I was wondering if it is possible to modify an engine to improve
>>performance.  I don't have the funds for something new, but want to
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> Better?           Save on Fuel        ??????
> Bob Griffiths
Bob G. - 16 Sep 2004 13:13 GMT
>Thanks for the response, Bob.
>
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>truck needs to last me for about 4 more years, so I want to get all the mpg
>out that I can.


Installing a taller set of rear gears (lower numerical number) will
help ...the most imho...

Since this is a truck like vehicle ...

What do you use it for?  if you use it mostly as a car..and mostly on
the highway ,not hauling much weight ,or pulling a trailer then
putting in new gears would make sense..  The downside is that you will
really loose the low end power to get the "truck' moving when you have
some weight in the thing or a trailer attached ..

I am guessing it is an automatic...but you may be able to reprogram
the transmissions shift points... to get you in a higher gear
faster...again at a loss of low end pickup etc...

However in the 4 years you plan to keep the vehicle  and driving say
15,000 miles a year  getting a 20 percent (unlikely) improvement in
gas mileage will only save you about 150 gallons of fuel a year...

At 2 bucks a gallon over a 4 year period that is about $1200.
factoring in the cost of the gear swap I really do not think it would
be worth the effort....

Bob Griffiths
     
Mark - 16 Sep 2004 13:41 GMT
Thanks, Bob.

I do have a manual, and have started shifting at 2300 rpm.  I'm still of the
first tank of that experiment, but it's looking like I may get 1 mpg out of
it.  I don't usually carry anything heavy and never tow anything.

I agree with what you said about the gears.  I wasn't sure how much mpg one
could get out of that, but it would be a stretch for it to be worth the
money.

I've also heard that trunk mounting the battery can help improve power to
the wheels, think there is any value in that?

>>Thanks for the response, Bob.
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> Bob Griffiths
Bob G. - 19 Sep 2004 14:25 GMT
>I've also heard that trunk mounting the battery can help improve power to
>the wheels, think there is any value in that?
>
>=====================
It will not affect the power to the rear wheels BUT it will help by
slightly (ever so slightly) increasing traction... simply by adding
more weight to the rear wheels...on a rwd car..

Again a simple cost analysis of buying a battery box, new longer
cables etc to move the battery to the rear would take decades to reach
a break even point...

My 68 Chevelle does have the battery mounted in the trunk... BUT I run
that car on the drag strip... and NHRA rules dictate that it have an
external battery cut off switch ..mounting the switch on the rear
bumper is simple...and the extra weight of the battery in the trunk
most likely gives me as much as 0.0001 of a second faster ET's  if
that!

Just drive the car with a light foot ... the wear and tear on your
Brain ( mental condition) is not worth worrying about an extra mpg  

Bob G.
newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com - 15 Sep 2004 22:21 GMT
>I was wondering if it is possible to modify an engine to improve
>performance.  I don't have the funds for something new, but want to improve
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Thanks for your input.

Get a high-flow low restriction, reusable air filter.  Like K&N

hth,

tom

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Steven Botts - 17 Oct 2004 02:10 GMT
> I was wondering if it is possible to modify an engine to improve
> performance.  I don't have the funds for something new, but want to improve
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Thanks for your input.

If you really want to get radical, you might remove the pistons, rods, and
valve train from one side of your engine and run on three cylinders. I'm not
really sure it would work with a modern vehicle, but I recall reading about
it being done with the V-8 guzzlers of the sixties.

Another advantage is that the side of your engine you are using is worn out,
you can remove the old parts, re-install the parts you removed, and keep
driving.

Steve
TE Cheah - 27 Oct 2004 08:40 GMT
| "Mark" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
| > it is possible to modify an engine to improve performance
Of course, either add e.g. turbo / super charger, or ( cheaper way ) correct
the design*flaws, or replace cheapo / inefficient parts.  I've found &
corrected 5 *, replaced 3 cheapos on my '90 accord, ( 1.3 ton, now average
14.2 km / litre of RON97, if 70% of trip is highway ).

| I recall reading about it being done with the V-8 guzzlers
Likely 4 out of 8 cylinders can be disabled, but none of 4 cylinders can.
 
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