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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / June 2005

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Knocking/clunking when braking

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edwina - 30 Mar 2005 06:27 GMT
I have a problem with my Mazda Demio 2000, which has done about 100
000km.

Whenever I apply the brakes gently, at low speeds, a regular
clunking/knocking noise kicks in. It is pretty loud, and has been
getting worse over the last year or so. I?m concerned that it might be
something serious that I need to sort out, but it certainly doesn?t
appear to be physically affecting the car in any way (yet).

Despite visiting several mechanics, nobody seems to know what it is.
One guy recommended replacing the CV joints, but as there appears to
be no association with turning I don?t see how this can be anything
but wishful thinking! I?d like to avoid paying for work that does not
help the problem, obviously.

Does anybody have any ideas as to what this might be? If there?s
anything more that I can tell you about the car or problem, just let
me know and I?ll attempt to find out. I?m no car-expert, mind you!

Thanks in advance.
Peter D. Hipson - 30 Mar 2005 15:09 GMT
Were this mine, I'd suspect a cracked brake rotor... It might be
worthwhile to do pads and rotors.

>I have a problem with my Mazda Demio 2000, which has done about 100
>000km.
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>
>Thanks in advance.
The Real Tom - 31 Mar 2005 20:14 GMT
>I have a problem with my Mazda Demio 2000, which has done about 100
>000km.
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>
>Thanks in advance.

I had a friend that bought a brand new ford mustang.  He heard a
'clunk' when breaking and after presisitng to the mechanics about the
sound, they found that axle was missing a mount bolt.  The axle was
shifting.

Have your underside quickly inspected.  Shouldn't cost much, just they
might just tap all the bolts and listen for sound changes.

imho,

tom @ www.CarFleaMarket.com
sdlomi2 - 04 Apr 2005 09:11 GMT
> I have a problem with my Mazda Demio 2000, which has done about 100
> 000km.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Thanks in advance.

   I ditto Hipson's advice: sounds like a simple case of rotors needing
turning and replacing brake pads--rotors get out of round and need to be
trued (turned).  Truing them & putting on good pads often eliminate what you
seem to be describing.  HTH, s
edwina - 16 Apr 2005 04:43 GMT
> > I have a problem with my Mazda Demio 2000, which has done
> about 100
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> eliminate what you
> seem to be describing.  HTH, s

Thank-you for all of your responses.

I have taken the car to a couple more mechanics, all of whom seemed to
be convinced that the knocking comes from some play in the
rotor/wheel-bolt assembly. With the wheel off, I can grab the wheel
bolts as a group and rotate them about a degree before they bear
against their housing with a metallic clank. This might be a bit of a
red herring though, as I have just wound some paper into the gaps to
remove the play (which seemed to work) temporarily and the clunking
remains.

The rotors sound like quite likely culprits, as you have all
suggested. Particularly as the sounds happens more rapidly at high
speeds, implying that it is to do with a part that rotates with the
wheels. Now the real challenge is to work out which rotor the noise is
coming from - it?s very hard to tell when you?re inside the car, and
it seems to be impossible to create the sound with the car jacked-up.

Thanks again for your help. I?ll keep you posted of any developments.
edwina - 06 Jun 2005 15:34 GMT
> Thank-you for all of your responses.
>
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> Thanks again for your help. I'll keep you posted of any
> developments.

.. well sort of.

After a day or so, the bits of paper seem to have done the trick. I
haven’t heard a single clunk for 6 weeks. Looks like it was just down
to play in the wheel nuts.

Bits of paper are hardly an ideal solution to this problem, especially
as they are close to the brake rotor. Can anyone suggest anything
better? I suppose a bit of plastic might do the trick. I’ve done
plenty of miles with the paper in place and haven’t had any hint of a
problem with them. They are protected from the weather by the wheels
and wheel nuts and it would seem that they don’t get hot enough or
don’t get enough air to burn up! Even if they did burn up or wear
loose, they should just fall away behind the wheel.

I am not keen to take them out and try something else unles I can be
sure that it will work, as it’s really nice not to have any clunking.

Thanks for all your advice.
 
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