This question is in regards to a 1990 Buick Park Avenue V6 engine that
started fine when cold, and you can drive it as far and as long as you
want, and runs very good and lots of power, until you turn it off and
it will not start under any condition, including takeing the intake
tube off and spraying starting fluid it the intake, and turn it over
and there is no sign of starting. The Buick has 196000 miles. I would
appreciated any tips, and thanks for taking time to read this quote.
Mike Romain - 17 May 2005 18:05 GMT
How does the starter sound when hot? I have seen old starters take too
many amps when hot not leaving enough left over for the ignition to fire
up.
Maybe try it with a boost for the extra power?
Some electronics also fail when hot. I would be wondering about the
starter bypass circuit for the ignition. This would be the one that
comes off the starter solenoid and powers the coil and ignition when the
starter is turning. If it has a second set of electronic parts anywhere
in there I would be checking them. You can get cold spray from
electronic shops for cooling off hot parts fast to see if that is an
issue. Maybe spraying things like the coil or ignition module with that
might help isolate things.
Just some ideas....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Bob G. - 17 May 2005 19:53 GMT
>This question is in regards to a 1990 Buick Park Avenue V6 engine that
>started fine when cold, and you can drive it as far and as long as you
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>and there is no sign of starting. The Buick has 196000 miles. I would
>appreciated any tips, and thanks for taking time to read this quote.
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At least problem is similar to one I encounter with most of my Old
Chevies ... Heat Soaked starters... !
When the engine is hot and will not start...usually turning the key
will get you nothing...not a sound... try pouring a few glassfuls of
water directly on the starter..or use a garden hose...if that works
then you do have a definite heat soaked starter..
Replacing the spring inside the solenoid with the light weight AcDelco
replacement spring (part number (AcDelco..1958679) is my standard
"cure"...cost about 5 bucks is easy to replace...and it has always
solved my Heat soaked starter problems ...
Bob Griffiths
68 SS 396 Chevelle..... yep the spring is in it
64 Corvette Ragtop..... no heat soak problems
72 Corvette Ragtop.....yep it has the spring
76 Corvette Coupe .... yep it has the spring
79 Corvette Coupe .. Yep it has the spring
95 Corvette Coupe ..... no heat soak problems
nm5k@wt.net - 18 May 2005 09:41 GMT
Super common problem...Don't think I've had a GM car that didn't
do that eventually...It always rears it's head at the worst times
too...
I've used all kinds of tricks from tapping with tire irons, sticks,
etc,
to cooling them off. The problem usually is the solenoid... Usually,
when I get those, the starter is about half shot anyway, so I usually
just change both the starter and the solenoid, and not have to worry
about it for a long time...Usually a faster starter too...Don't forget
the
shims....Not shimming a GM starter will lead to the awful shearing
gear/flywheel noise, and will eat the teeth up on the flywheel...You
think
a flaky solenoid is a PIA.. You don't wanna visit bad flywheel
land....:( MK