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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / July 2005Safety idea
Hi folk How about this idea Rather than having little rectangular pieces of metal around, the roa should broadcast it's speed limit and by law all car engines should by a certain date, be retrofitted with governors that wont allow on to exceed the speed limit. Another option is for this law to forc all cars to be fitted with GPS units that track the speed limit, an look up a database of speed limit based on location. This GPS uni will inform the cops of when all you broke the law and you will ge tickets in the mail. Whatever the law says will apply to all new car sold, of course > Hi folks > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > tickets in the mail. Whatever the law says will apply to all new cars > sold, of course. Let me guess. You're a communist, right? Rather than having little rectangular pieces of metal around, the road should broadcast which lane is the non passing lane and by law all car steering systems should, by a certain date, be retrofitted with sensors that won't allow one to remain in the passing lane(s) unless a 20 mph differential exists between your vehicle and the vehicle within 200 feet of you in the next lane. A "black box" unit will access the DMV database and assess demerit points on the driver's license when one fails to keep to the rightmost lane. Whatever the law says will apply to all new cars sold, of course. On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:36:28 GMT, Arif Khokar , said the following in rec.autos.driving... > Rather than having little rectangular pieces of metal around, the road > should broadcast which lane is the non passing lane and by law all car [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > fails to keep to the rightmost lane. Whatever the law says will apply > to all new cars sold, of course. Now *that's* a great idea. I propose that judy's car be the first to be retro-fitted... > Rather than having little rectangular pieces of metal around, > the road should broadcast which lane is the non passing lane > and by law all car steering systems should, by a certain date, > be retrofitted with sensors that won't allow one to remain in the > passing lane(s) unless a 20 mph differential exists between your > vehicle and the vehicle within 200 feet of you in the next lane. If people remaining in the passing lane is a problem, pass a law prohibiting excessive use of the passing lane. If laws already exist, enforce them. If the police refuse to enforce such laws, that is no excuse to impose even more burdens on citizens. > A "black box" unit will access the DMV database and assess > demerit points on the driver's license when one fails to keep to > the rightmost lane. This is a violation of our 5th Amendment Right to not be forced to bear witness against ourselves. > Whatever the law says will apply to all new cars sold, of course. Driving the costs of automobiles even higher where police enforcement is sufficent. >> Rather than having little rectangular pieces of metal around, >> the road should broadcast which lane is the non passing lane [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >This is a violation of our 5th Amendment Right to not be forced to bear >witness against ourselves. Forced? Hell, you aren't forced! You don't _have_ to drive! Take a bus, or a cab... Driving is a privelege, not a right, remember? >> Whatever the law says will apply to all new cars sold, of course. > >Driving the costs of automobiles even higher where police enforcement >is sufficent. yep... >Rather than having little rectangular pieces of metal around, the road >should broadcast which lane is the non passing lane and by law all car And if the troll doesn't seem to work the first time, just post it again with a different name. OK, next he'll start replying to his own posts taking the opposite view point. >>Rather than having little rectangular pieces of metal around, the road >>should broadcast which lane is the non passing lane and by law all car > And if the troll doesn't seem to work the first time, just post it > again with a different name. OK, next he'll start replying to his own > posts taking the opposite view point. It obviously was a parody of the original troll (and, no, I'm not the same poster as the OP). >>>Rather than having little rectangular pieces of metal around, the road >>>should broadcast which lane is the non passing lane and by law all car [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >It obviously was a parody of the original troll (and, no, I'm not the >same poster as the OP). And you have my appology! I should have read a bit closer... (sorry!) > > Hi folks > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > tickets in the mail. Whatever the law says will apply to all new cars > > sold, of course. Sounds great to me esp if we combine it with jail time for these deadly speeders. Unfortunately, joe sixpack is a criminal coddler who doesn't want to crack down on speeding since speeding is his favorite crime. > > > Hi folks > > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > speeders. Unfortunately, joe sixpack is a criminal coddler who doesn't > want to crack down on speeding since speeding is his favorite crime. Why are you advocating jail time for drunks, Joe 12pack? And why not your zero Tubby boy who got drunk and used his car to murder his pregnant mistress? > > Hi folks > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Let me guess. You're a communist, right? Even communists aren't that stupid. > Arif Khokarwrote Rather than having little rectangular pieces of metal around, th road > should broadcast which lane is the non passing lane and by law al car > steering systems should, by a certain date, be retrofitted wit sensors > that won't allow one to remain in the passing lane(s) unless a 2 mph > differential exists between your vehicle and the vehicle within 20 feet > of you in the next lane. A "black box" unit will access the DMV > database and assess demerit points on the driver's license when on > fails to keep to the rightmost lane. Whatever the law says wil apply > to all new cars sold, of course I agree, with the following caveats 1. At no point am I to exceed speed limit. Hence If I am overtaking guy going 54 in rightmost lane it is OK for me to be 55. (I am no obliged to break the law for ANYONE) 2. If I am driving speed limit then I can occupy any lane of th highway except the leftmost one (for emergency vehicles or police t pass me The basis for (1) is that in my defensive driving class the instructo told me that even when passing someone, by law the speed limit shoul be obeyed. The basis for (2) is that the speed limit is the maximu allowed, and the so-called passer loses right of way when he has t exceed it. Yes, If I am going 50 on a 55 then I need to stick to th rightmost lane I have another idea 3. Like in UK and all over europe, speed cameras should be placed al over the highways for now, till advanced safety technology i developed >over the highways for now, till advanced safety technology is >developed. I think cars should be banned and everyone forced to ride bicycles. Think of what good that would do for the country. No more fat health problems, no issues with imported oil, and no traffic deaths. Let's do it! > Peter D. Hipsonwrote On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:36:28 GMT, Arif Khoka <akhokar1234@wvu.edu > wrote > > Rather than having little rectangular pieces of metal around, th roa > should broadcast which lane is the non passing lane and by law al ca And if the troll doesn't seem to work the first time, just post i again with a different name. OK, next he'll start replying to his ow posts taking the opposite view point.[/quote:c28c4c1bfa Mr/Mrs Hipson/Hipdaughter Calling someone a troll is taking the easy way out, rather tha discussing the merits and demerits of the idea the poster put out. I do as I preach. In the capital beltway the speed limit is 55, and i a construction zone spanning 15 miles on both sides of a bridge, it i 50. I do exactly speed limit, mostly in the right lane but sometime in the next lane. I never play traffic cop. If you want to pass me do so. In neighborhoods, I strictly follow posted speeds, mostlty 2 but sometimes 15. I remember once when I was driving at 15 and on down slope, I started picking up speed so I braked to get back to 15 The SUV behind me almost hit me, then honked. I also come to complete stop at all stop signs. I have been honked at for this too It seems that law breakers (criminal speeders/stop sign violators want others to do so just because they think it's OK. I also saw a almost-accident when an impatient SUVer got into the exit ramp t pass me when I was driving at 50 near the wilson bridge, and barel missed hitting a car coming onto the ramp. I have been honked at fo not turning on red when there is a sign "no turn on red I found that by following the letter of the law, my drive is ver peaceful and I "lose" only 10% of my time as compared to commitin criminal violation of posted traffic laws >> Peter D. Hipsonwrote: > On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:36:28 GMT, Arif Khokar [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > missed hitting a car coming onto the ramp. I have been honked at for > not turning on red when there is a sign "no turn on red" If these are your experiences...it sounds to me like your brand of driving is going to get you or someone else killed! I would suggest "going with the flow" would be far less stressful! > I found that by following the letter of the law, my drive is very > peaceful and I "lose" only 10% of my time as compared to commiting > criminal violation of posted traffic laws. By your very own examples of the experiences you say you have...you call that peaceful? Something isn't adding up! I call it scary! > James C. Reeveswrote "NoVaDude" <mrtatte@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote i message > xx snip snip x > > pass me when I was driving at 50 near the wilson bridge, and barel > missed hitting a car coming onto the ramp. I have been honked a fo > not turning on red when there is a sign "no turn on red If these are your experiences...it sounds to me like your brand o driving is going to get you or someone else killed! I would suggest "goin with the flow" would be far less stressful > I found that by following the letter of the law, my drive is ver > peaceful and I "lose" only 10% of my time as compared to commitin > criminal violation of posted traffic laws By your very own examples of the experiences you say you have...yo call that peaceful? Something isn't adding up! I call it scary![/quote Let me give you an analogy. There were three employees at a big corporation: Honest Abe, Scare Sam and Crooked Dan. The Corporation was Enron. Abe wanted to notif the authorities. Sam and Dan (for different reasons) were fightin him tooth and nail saying "You'll get us all fired". Q1. If you ask a third party, who is responsible for the firings a) Honest Ab b) Ken La c) Sam, Dan and other employees who either had no moral compass or feeble on d) b and Q2. If more Abes were in the company, would the fraud have a) been made public a lot soone b) convinced more Scared Dans to become Honest Abes c) convicted Ken Lay before he could do much damag d) all of the abov So far I have only heard honks. I wont get myself hurt or killed. have had to slow down to 5 or 10 below speed limit when someone jus cut in, a few times. IMHO the law is black and white. Ken Lay = Guy who wont stop at stop sig Ken Lay = Guy who breaks speed limi My driving philosophy is: "Ignore the guy breaking the law and loo out for my safety while following the law". From that point of view if you allot the extra 10 - 25% cushion in time for travelling, i REALLY is peaceful </rant >> James C. Reeveswrote: > "NoVaDude" <mrtatte@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > </rant> You turned the rant off tag without using the rant on <rant> tag. Bad coding syntax! :-) If you say it's peaceful, I won't argue. My observation of your description just sounded otherwise to me. Strict enforcement of ALL speed limits (65,55, 40,35,25 even 15) an ALL traffic rules ($100 ticket for "rolling" stop on red etc.) wil prevent tragic accidents like this. The article even says that th accident was avoidable if speed limits were more strictly enforce http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/29/crash.ap/index.htm how do you know speed was involved?? there is no mention of speeding in the news report. > Strict enforcement of ALL speed limits (65,55, 40,35,25 even 15) and > ALL traffic rules ($100 ticket for "rolling" stop on red etc.) will > prevent tragic accidents like this. The article even says that the > accident was avoidable if speed limits were more strictly enforced > > http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/29/crash.ap/index.html > tomwrote how do you know speed was involved?? there is no mention of speedin in th > news report > "NoVaDude" <mrtatte@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote i messag > news:PqidnVj9pd1FWHffRVn_vQ@giganews.com.. > Strict enforcement of ALL speed limits (65,55, 40,35,25 even 15 an > ALL traffic rules ($100 ticket for "rolling" stop on red etc.) wil > prevent tragic accidents like this. The article even says that th > accident was avoidable if speed limits were more strictly enforce > > http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/29/crash.ap/index.htm > [/quote:906a65fc4c It is not directly mentioned but can be inferred. It say "Gov. M. Jodi Rell said the state may consider reducing speed limit and more strictly enforcing speeding and tailgating laws. "I think i should give us all a moment of pause," she said. I trust the authorities completely and if speed was not a factor the they would not be considering these options whenever there is an accident involving a truck, the truck is automatically determined to be in the wrong by the general public. in over 20 years of accident investigations with a local police department in new jersey, 90 percent of the time it is the car that caused it, and the truck got the public rap because it rolled over the car, killing all inside. when you put a 4 thousand pound car up against a 80 thousand pound truck, it is a no brainer as to who is going to loose > > tomwrote: > how do you know speed was involved?? there is no mention of speeding [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > I trust the authorities completely and if speed was not a factor then > they would not be considering these options. |
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