I live in the Bay Area and had been hunting for a used car.

On a good day, a new Camry (AT, AC, PW, PDL) is advertised as low as
15777. The invoice for a LE (as per Edmunds) is 18,234 and a 750$
rebate is the norm - a net price of 17,500 or thereabouts.

Here is a search on Yahoo Cars -
http://used-cars.autos.yahoo.com/usedcars/search.html?make=TOYOTA&model=CAMRY&cl
_y=2003&ch_y=2004&cl_price=&ch_price=&cl_mi=&ch_mi=&ck=&gur=50&csz=95050&cpcpo=1
&ce_sl=&vtype=autos&mk=Toyota&mo=Camry&submit=Search.

If you cant get to the listings above, here are the certified gems as
of today (listings will change day to day):
03 45Kmi $17995
03 45K mi $17975
03 46Kmi $15450
04 37Kmi $17995
03 39Kmi $15981

Admittedly, the certified cars offer you
1. 7yr (from original purchase date) powertrain warranty. Add about 1k
for a bumper to bumper
2. Roadside assistance

Ive doggedly been to several dealers getting them to give me a sensible
price. Inpsite of knowing these dealers where at their rock bottom
prices, they were barely below the lowest advertised price for an 06.

And mind you, this for a Camry - a car so boring that it doesnt even
breakdown. (So why pay for additional warranties). Worse, cars had
chips on the windows, dents, were prior rentals, had oxidation build up
on the batteries - ugh

Presumably, there are gullible people who walk in dont try to negotiate
and pay close to sticker.

What on god's good earth am i missing out in this picture? Am i moron
... does Toyota think im a moron. Why shd i pay more for a 3yr old car
with close to 50K mi than a new one????