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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / January 2006Should I fire this guy because he bought his degree from the internet?
A couple years ago I hired a guy named Thomas as a senior mechanic for a small radiator shop I run in California. He always seemed like a pretty competent worker. Thomas had great personal skills, came into work on-time, and pretty much completed projects better than any of the other techs in our facility. He seemed like a pretty intelligent guy, actually. I've even had dinner with his wife and young daughter on occasion. I generally consider him a friend. The other day I invited him to my house to hang out and have a few drinks. At one point in the evening we were shooting the sh.t and talking about the worst things we've ever done in our lives. I regaled him with a tale about how I stole expensive clothes from department stores as a teenager and he told me about how he once sent explicit pictures of his cheating ex-girlfriend sodomizing a toothbrush to her parents. I laughed and passed him another drink. I guess he was getting a little too tipsy because a little later he related a story about how he got his college degree in philosophy. We don't require college degrees, but we generally hire and give greater pay to candidates with the degree over the candidate without one. Thomas said that he bought it off the internet for $450 from some website called http://www.diplomaforge.com and listed it on the resume he sent my secretary. I've heard this website discussed on these forums a few days ago. Apparently they represent universities who grant degrees based on "work history" and "life experience." Now I don't know what to do. Company policy is to terminate people who lie on their resumes, but he doesn't seem like that bad of a guy. The website he got his degree from looks like what they're doing is pretty unethical since there's no coursework involved. But I guess the degree is technically legal. Should I fire him because he bought his degree from the internet instead of attending a regular university? What he did was pretty crooked. I think I might decide to fire him over this. If you were his employer what would you do? > What he did was pretty crooked. I think I might decide to fire him over > this. If you were his employer what would you do? Since the guy is doing his job and doing it well, I'd probably let it slide. You run a radiator shop, after all. That isn't the sort of industry where education is paramount. Technical (and in this guy's case, leadership) skills are a lot more relevant, I'd think. Not that any of that excuses his unethical behavior. But according to what you say, the man is a valued employee and an asset to your business. Wouldn't firing him over something that has no practical importance amount to cutting off your nose to spite your face? In your place I might consider some lesser sanction, maybe witholding an annual raise. But no more than that. Geoff  Signature"This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. This is only a test. Had this been an actual emergency, you'd be writhing on the ground in unspeakable agony, bleeding from every orifice, with your blackened skin falling away in ragged strips." Make some enquiries about his degree and talk to him about. If you cant get over it, give him sometime and offer the guy a good references on the condition he drops the degree from his resume. Or encourage him to go for an ASE certification. Id let him slide ... but you're the boss! It's a tough call because the guy is a good worker and you're not exactly in a field where a degree is important / necessary. I would just let him know you don't think that was very honest and let it go. Not worth firing a good dependable worker over something of that nature, especially if he does a good job. It just makes you wonder if he is dishonest about anything else.. ------------------------------------ Mike Mangione http://www.carforums.net I have seen some lame SPAM attempts, but his one is at least creative. If I was the CEO, I would fire 'you' for being so stupid as to not recognize proper work ethics. The guy is a liar and a fraud. Really simple. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > A couple years ago I hired a guy named Thomas as a senior mechanic for > a small radiator shop I run in California. He always seemed like a [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > What he did was pretty crooked. I think I might decide to fire him over > this. If you were his employer what would you do? >A couple years ago I hired a guy named Thomas as a senior mechanic for >a small radiator shop I run in California. He always seemed like a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >I guess he was getting a little too tipsy because a little later he There is no such employee. You posted this to advertise the fake diploma website. This is SPAM, and you have been PLONKED. Unless you were a complete idiot, you would not need to ask this question on here, and would know what to do with the employee. It's stupid to think anyone would fire a long time GOOD employee anyhow. Actually, I'll rephrase. You ARE an idiot, because your attempt as SPAMMING just got your internet account revoked. * PLONK * |
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