I sometimes enjoy watching a movie, which has been marked VERY badly by
some movie critics/reviewers. My friend told me that I should keep
checking and comparing the kind of movies that I like to those among
the so many movie critics in magazine, newspaper or on TV. When I
finally find a match, then I should only read his/her critics. Perhaps
he/she has the same "taste" of movies as I am.
Switching gear to Car reviews in magazines or TV. Who actually pays for
those many car reviewers and critics? Do they mostly work "freelance"
or do they get paid full time by the car magazines? Just similar to
movie critics, they are also very bias. For examples, I hardly see any
reviews made in Consumers Report that suggesting to get an american
car. Did they get financial rewards of somekind from Japanese
automobile manufacturers? On the other hand, I notice the other way
around in some of the other prominent car magazines.
Do these car reviewers/critics get a "free rides" with the car they
tested? I wonder whether they work for the automobile industry? Or, are
the car magazines aligned themselves with a certain brand of
automobiles? I read somewhere that some critics/reviewers try the car
for personal use for a while, and then switching with the other models,
etc. So, in a way, they are provided with a "free" transportation at
their disposal at any time. Sounds like fun! Who don't want to try out
those new cars, and getting paid at the same time... enjoying a brand
new cars, without little worries of breaking down, etc. If he/she a
good reviewer (for a certain manufacturers?), then I assume there are
more "goodies" on line to try.
I am just curious, and would like to hear from those who knows this
industry, and would like to take a peek on how they are doing in this
competitive business.Do they associated or aligned themselves with
certain car manufactures?, do they actually on payroll from the
industry, from the magazines, etc?. How difficult is it to become an
established car reviewers/critics? Perhaps just like other
critics/reviewers, whether it is in movie, or food businesses? I must
say that car reviewers/critics appear to have a very rewarding/classy
profession! Who don't want to try out that brand new, red, and
expensive sports car?
McCoy - 21 Jan 2006 14:42 GMT
> Just similar to
> movie critics, they are also very bias. For examples, I hardly see any
> reviews made in Consumers Report that suggesting to get an american
> car. Did they get financial rewards of somekind from Japanese
> automobile manufacturers?
This criticism has come up before, and the simple fact of the matter is that
American car companies have not performed well in comparison to the
Japanese, and neither have most other nations' car companies. The Japanese
established a level of quality that raised the quality in other cars, but
few have been able to match them. Personally, I have been a long-term Ford
driver and have never purchased a Japanese vehicle. My trucks have lower
technology and quality than the japanese versions some of my friends drive,
but I have held out because I want to support American companies. I bought
the best American vehicles that fit my needs and budget. Eventually, though,
our car companies will need to 'belly up to the bar' and give us the kind of
quality, style and technology we demand. Consumer Reports is the absolute
LEAST biased review magazine that is widely available. Their reviews, on a
wide variety of consumer products, are among the best that I've been able to
find.
> I am just curious, and would like to hear from those who knows this
> industry,
Somebody needs to slap your elementary school English teacher.
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C. E. White - 25 Jan 2006 18:01 GMT
>............... Personally, I have been a long-term Ford
> driver and have never purchased a Japanese vehicle. My trucks have lower
> technology and quality than the japanese versions some of my friends drive,
> but I have held out because I want to support American companies.
Exactly what sort of technology do the import trucks have than American
trucks don't have? Why do you think the American trucks are lower quality?
The Ford F150 just got the JD Power award for initial quality. I've known a
few farmers that have tried using Japanese trucks as farm vehicles, but most
quickly switch back to American vehicles. The Japanese trucks seem OK for
light hauling on paved roads, but I have seen Toyota trucks literally melt
away when used on farms. The structures are insufficient for the routine
sort of tasks farmers expect their trucks to perform. The little Toyota
trucks were pretty good if all you did was ride around (at least until the
rust got them), but the T-100 and Tundra are absolute jokes if you actually
need a truck to haul something. The one farmer I know that still owns a
Tundra, has a real truck for the real work. The Tundra is his ride to town
truck. The engine is weak (despite the advertised horsepower) and the
suspension cannot handle any sort of overload (my 16 year old F150 will haul
more than a Tundra if you ignore the ratings). Americans have been
brainwashed into believing that Japanese vehicles are somehow better. In
some cases they are (small cars from the early 70's - maybe) and in some
cases they are not. The reality is that the average US made cars is as good
as the average Japanese car. There are examples on both sides that people
like to point to and claim this proves Japanese cars are better (especially
bad US cars and especially good Japanese cars). The sad part is that
millions of Americans have bought into the notion that Japanese cars are
better and don't even consider US vehicles. This has allowed the Japanese
companies to charge exorbitant prices for average or even mediocre vehicles
(like the Camry).
Ed
Andrew White - 22 Jan 2006 05:50 GMT
>I sometimes enjoy watching a movie, which has been marked VERY badly by
>some movie critics/reviewers. My friend told me that I should keep
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>automobile manufacturers? On the other hand, I notice the other way
>around in some of the other prominent car magazines.
You're just sitting in front of the computer making this stuff up,
right? I've been subscribing two Consumer Reports, Car & Driver,
Automobile and Motor Trend for close to two decades and I know your
statement has no merit. Japanese cars used to be much more reliable so
CR used to recommend them more than American or European ones, but
lately CR has been recommending several American cars.
Auto magazines have somewhat different criteria from CR - performance
often wins over reliability and even comfort. Hence some American
muscle cars have been recommended by them. But cars like Honda Accord,
Lexus, Acura and BMW have always been at or near the top of any
meaningful comparison I've ever read in a car magazine.
Consumer Reports is completely unbiased with respect to auto brands
because they accept no advertisements or other money from
manufacturers. I feel that major auto magazines like the ones I named
above are fairly unbiased as well because all car manufacturers
advertise there.
Mike Berger - 23 Jan 2006 17:42 GMT
They may be unbiased, but they use silly criteria when they
evaluate a lot of things. A car magazine has extensive
expertise in engines, drive trains, performance, etc. while
the Consumer Reports people are much more subjective.
> Consumer Reports is completely unbiased with respect to auto brands
> because they accept no advertisements or other money from
> manufacturers. I feel that major auto magazines like the ones I named
> above are fairly unbiased as well because all car manufacturers
> advertise there.
Bugalugs - 23 Jan 2006 21:55 GMT
> They may be unbiased, but they use silly criteria when they
> evaluate a lot of things. A car magazine has extensive
> expertise in engines, drive trains, performance, etc. while
> the Consumer Reports people are much more subjective.
I think Consumer used to buy their cars (don't know about now) and
report on every aspect from the ordinary consumers point of view.
Car magazines are writing for their readers. Petrolheads are not going
to be repeat magazine buyers if they get told trivia like how much
luggage can fit under the seats and in the sidepockets. Besides their
cars come from the PR dept complete with all the brochures detailing all
the latest specs. If they dump on a car too much they're not going to
get the loan of another.
Mike Berger - 24 Jan 2006 16:34 GMT
What's an "ordinary consumer's point of view"? What makes someone
an ordinary consumer vs. an extraordinary, or maybe sub-ordinary,
one? If my point of view is different than that of the CR
reviewer, then *I'm* not ordinary?
> I think Consumer used to buy their cars (don't know about now) and
> report on every aspect from the ordinary consumers point of view.
roger61611@yahoo.com - 25 Jan 2006 02:45 GMT
I've read and been told that American cars are closing in on the
Japanese, but the difference in quality IMO is still obvious. Pricing
is roughly the same. Which would you spend 15k on, a Cavalier/Neon pos
or a Corolla ? I rode in a big 2005 Buick, I think a Park Avenue, had
absolutely the cheapest interior finish of ANY car I'd ever een in.
The interior door panels were simply molded plastic, looked like the
body of a tv set.
Saying that though I believe most reviewers are overly polite,
especially movie reviewers.
Refinish_King - 25 Jan 2006 03:39 GMT
Buy American!
The Japanese and Chinese use plastic too, but only recycled American
plastics!
RK
> I've read and been told that American cars are closing in on the
> Japanese, but the difference in quality IMO is still obvious. Pricing
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> Saying that though I believe most reviewers are overly polite,
> especially movie reviewers.