>>I have a Venture 2002 van. In the last few months my abs lights
>>randomly goes on and off. Is that a matter that need immediate
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> Please post your home address so that we can call the local police.
> If you live in Iraq I'll have you shot.
"80 Knight" <80_knightNOSPAMPLEASE@rogers.com> wrote in message
> You, 'cselby' and 'Edwin' both need to get a grip. The guy is asking a
> question. If you don't have a nice answer then keep quiet. Some cars turn
> the ABS light on for something simple like low on fluid. Yes, the guy
> should get the car checked out, and that's WHY he asked.
RTFM for crying out loud. Anyone that does not have the brain power to
figure "my brakes are having a problems" should not be driving. That
intermittent belt whine may leave you by the side of the road, but that
intermittent brake can leave you DEAD should it fail the wrong way. .
why, me - 26 Apr 2006 13:35 GMT
> "80 Knight" <80_knightNOSPAMPLEASE@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> intermittent belt whine may leave you by the side of the road, but that
> intermittent brake can leave you DEAD should it fail the wrong way. .
His brakes still work. There is an issue with the ABS. I drove my old
Bonneville for about 4 years with the ABS light on. Never had a problem
stopping. Remember ABS isn't always required. It just enables you to
steer in a heavy breaking situation. Good drivers can out stop an ABS
system and still maintain control.
Edwin Pawlowski - 27 Apr 2006 00:10 GMT
"why, me" <vincent@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> His brakes still work. There is an issue with the ABS. I drove my old
> Bonneville for about 4 years with the ABS light on. Never had a problem
> stopping. Remember ABS isn't always required. It just enables you to steer
> in a heavy breaking situation. Good drivers can out stop an ABS system and
> still maintain control.
True, they are designed to work that way and hopefully they always will if
the ABS fails. But to ignore it and ask if it should be checked out, is
just a plain dumb question. Yes, there really is a stupid question.
I'll drive a while with a noise if I know what it is and what, if any, harm
can come of it, but I don't drive with safety devices disabled out of
ignorance. You can go your entire life with no need for the ABS, but if it
rains tomorrow, the road is slippery, a car pulls out . . . . . . .ABS may
make the difference.
Hairy - 27 Apr 2006 04:52 GMT
> "why, me" <vincent@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> rains tomorrow, the road is slippery, a car pulls out . . . . . . .ABS may
> make the difference.
If the road is slippery, ABS is not your friend. It only helps on high
traction surfaces. Good drivers are better off without it.
Dave
why, me - 27 Apr 2006 13:59 GMT
> "why, me" <vincent@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> rains tomorrow, the road is slippery, a car pulls out . . . . . . .ABS may
> make the difference.
If they "slam and steer". I had a guy run into the back of my car
because when applied the brakes on wet pavement and the ABS functioned
he didn't know what it was and released the brake pedal and used my
bumper to stop.
80 Knight - 26 Apr 2006 19:37 GMT
> "80 Knight" <80_knightNOSPAMPLEASE@rogers.com> wrote in message
>> You, 'cselby' and 'Edwin' both need to get a grip. The guy is asking a
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> intermittent belt whine may leave you by the side of the road, but that
> intermittent brake can leave you DEAD should it fail the wrong way. .
The ABS light doesn't always mean the brakes are going to fail. Like I said,
it could be something very small, or even just in the ABS system. Remember
when cars didn't come with ABS?
>You, 'cselby' and 'Edwin' both need to get a grip. The guy is asking a
>question. If you don't have a nice answer then keep quiet. Some cars turn
>the ABS light on for something simple like low on fluid. Yes, the guy should
>get the car checked out, and that's WHY he asked.
Spoken like a car user, not a car fixer. When people do dangerous
things, without knowing enough to stop and check what's happening,
this is as nice as it gets. If you can't check it yourself take it
to someone who can, not to a newsgroup. NOT for red lites on - ever.
Feel free to discuss it after the problem is resolved or was looked at
by alleged competent people and not resolved.
ABS stops the wheels from braking in a selective manner depending on
what the wheel sensors detect. In effect it screws with the brakes
ability to 'lock up'. When the system gets old /worn /dirty it
really messes up including preventing any braking no matter how soft
or hard you stand on the brake pedal. And it can do this
intermitently just like Russian roulette. When the red lite comes on
it means something important enough to turn the lite on, is happening.
This bit of info doesn't get the vehicle checked and/or repaired and
it is far from explaining ABS in it's entirety. It is about a worst
case scenario. And it's the one you better be prepared to live (or
kill or die) with when it happens.
That's why you are so dangerous. Idiots like you are why so many
'accidents' happen that aren't 'your fault'. Don't spread your
stupidity by making this person think it's OK to drive with red lites
on or flashing on.
80 Knight - 26 Apr 2006 23:53 GMT
>>You, 'cselby' and 'Edwin' both need to get a grip. The guy is asking a
>>question. If you don't have a nice answer then keep quiet. Some cars turn
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>
> Spoken like a car user, not a car fixer.
Wrong. I fix cars all the time. I just did a brake job today.
> When people do dangerous
> things, without knowing enough to stop and check what's happening,
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> intermitently just like Russian roulette. When the red lite comes on
> it means something important enough to turn the lite on, is happening.
I have had ABS failures on several cars, each time the ABS light would come
on, the ABS system would shut down, and the brakes returned to 'standard'
mode.
> This bit of info doesn't get the vehicle checked and/or repaired and
> it is far from explaining ABS in it's entirety. It is about a worst
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> stupidity by making this person think it's OK to drive with red lites
> on or flashing on.
I didn't say it was OK to drive the car with the light on, I said he should
get it looked at, but calling someone names isn't going to help at all. The
guy was asking if it was a problem. A simple 'yes, get it checked out' would
have sufficed. People like you give Mechanics a bad name. Treat people with
respect, and they will treat you the same.
Hairy - 27 Apr 2006 05:03 GMT
> >You, 'cselby' and 'Edwin' both need to get a grip. The guy is asking a
> >question. If you don't have a nice answer then keep quiet. Some cars turn
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> Feel free to discuss it after the problem is resolved or was looked at
> by alleged competent people and not resolved.
Are you the new moderator?
> ABS stops the wheels from braking in a selective manner depending on
> what the wheel sensors detect. In effect it screws with the brakes
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> intermitently just like Russian roulette. When the red lite comes on
> it means something important enough to turn the lite on, is happening.
You are so full of sh.t, I'm surprised you can see your keyboard.
> This bit of info doesn't get the vehicle checked and/or repaired and
> it is far from explaining ABS in it's entirety. It is about a worst
> case scenario. And it's the one you better be prepared to live (or
> kill or die) with when it happens.
Oh my, how dramatic....
> That's why you are so dangerous. Idiots like you are why so many
> 'accidents' happen that aren't 'your fault'. Don't spread your
> stupidity by making this person think it's OK to drive with red lites
> on or flashing on.
Speaking of idiots, what we don't need is people like you pontificating on
subjects that you know nothing about.
Dave