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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / July 2006

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Constant Transmission Fluid Drip

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maradcliff@UNLISTED.com - 22 Jul 2006 10:18 GMT
This is an 89 Chevy Caprice station wagon with the 307 engine (olds
engine used in chevy).  It has the 3 speed automatic trans with
overdrive.  (some refer to it as a 4 speed, I guess).

It is always dripping transmission fluid.  Not just when I drive it,
but even when its parked.  It's not pouring out, just a constant drip
maybe one drop per hour (since I was just working on the exhaust
system, I got to watch the drops.

It is NOT the pan gasket.  I already changed that thinking that was
the culprit.  Its also NOT dripping from the cooler lines, nor around
the dipstick tube.  The drip is coming out from the plastic cover that
is beneath the torque converter.  I have not yet pulled that cover
off.  I thought I'd ask about this first and see what others say about
it.  

I talked to a mechanic at a local Chevy dealer.  Of course he told me
to bring it in, and would not tell me much more, except to say that
the front seal on the trans (where the shaft enters it), is probably
leaking.  OK, I know about front and rear seals.  I have never changed
a front one, but have done a few rear ones on other cars.  While I am
no mechanic, I do know more than the average guy about cars.  Correct
me if I am wrong, but I do not believe the fluid level is high enough
inside the trans to keep dripping when the car is parked.  Yet it
continues to drip even if the car sits for several weeks and is not
used (this is a spare car only).  So, how can it keep dripping when
the car is not used?  

Assuming I am correct about this, there must be some other place thats
leaking, possibly the torque converter itself.  But what or where?????

Can anyone please advice me what to look for.....
Has anyone had this same problem?

Sorry, I do not know the "name" of the transmission, but I did look it
up once and I believe there was only one type of overdrive used in GM
in the 80's.

I'd greatly appreciate any help.  It only costs me a quart of ATF
every 2 to 3 weeks, but it's annoying and makes a big mess on the
driveway.  I'm hoping it's just something simple, but automatic
transmissions are one of the things I know the least about on a car.

Thanks

Mark
cselby@mts.net - 22 Jul 2006 11:35 GMT
>This is an 89 Chevy Caprice station wagon with the 307 engine (olds
>engine used in chevy).  It has the 3 speed automatic trans with
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>off.  I thought I'd ask about this first and see what others say about
>it.  

Pull that cover off and see if the drip line is coming from the seal
area (straight down from the center).  That would indicate the front
seal.   If the oil is all over the place, wash it out with Brake Clean
or other spray solvent, let it dry out and start it up for a few mins.
Check the drip line again.    Don't be dumb enuff to stick your head
up there with the engine running.  The ring gear will plow a neat
groove in your forehead.

Enjoy
Pete
Al Bundy - 22 Jul 2006 13:48 GMT
> >This is an 89 Chevy Caprice station wagon with the 307 engine (olds
> >engine used in chevy).  It has the 3 speed automatic trans with
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Enjoy
> Pete

I agree. He has to get under there and look with the surface cleaned
first. The source should be evident. He may find that it is migrating
from somewhere else. There is an O-ring under the speedo gear input too
that can leak like crazy and is  simple to fix. A leak of that
magnatude should be obvoius.
maradcliff@UNLISTED.com - 23 Jul 2006 06:53 GMT
>>This is an 89 Chevy Caprice station wagon with the 307 engine (olds
>>engine used in chevy).  It has the 3 speed automatic trans with
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>Enjoy
>Pete

Thanks

I'll do as you say and also check the spedo cable.  I'll post a follup
when I look in there.  No, I wont stick ANY body parts in there when
the engine is running. Not even my best tool :)

PS. Is there not a drain plug to drain the converter?  I was wondering
if that might be loose or lacking some sort of seal.  I guess I'll see
when I open it., but was wondering if there is a drain plug.  I know
some cars have em, others dont.
Steve W. - 23 Jul 2006 09:28 GMT
>>> This is an 89 Chevy Caprice station wagon with the 307 engine (olds
>>> engine used in chevy).  It has the 3 speed automatic trans with
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> when I open it., but was wondering if there is a drain plug.  I know
> some cars have em, others dont.

No drain on a converter. Probably the front seal on the trans. When its
running the oil gets sprayed all around the bellhousing then it runs
down and drips out the drain hole in the cover. If it has been doing it
a while the cover probably has dirt/crud in it that is probably
absorbing the oil as well as blocking off the drain hole some. Before
you pull the cover stick a nail or screwdriver in the drain hole and see
if it's clear. If it's partially plugged there could be a pool of oil
waiting to dump on you when you pull the bolts.
Edwin Pawlowski - 22 Jul 2006 12:42 GMT
<maradcliff@UNLISTED.com> wrote in message
> I'd greatly appreciate any help.  It only costs me a quart of ATF
> every 2 to 3 weeks, but it's annoying and makes a big mess on the
> driveway.  I'm hoping it's just something simple, but automatic
> transmissions are one of the things I know the least about on a car.

Let's see, you are spilling 5 gallons of oil on the road every year for the
past 10 years.  At 2.50 a quart you've dumped $500 worth of oil.  How much
would it cost to have serviced?  Would you take that 5 gallons of oil a year
and just dump it in your backyard?

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