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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / December 2006

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georgeherman@______.com - 27 Nov 2006 14:12 GMT
When checking transmission fluid in an automatic it says to have
engine hot and running.  If i just want to get it close, by checking
it while cold and not running, about how far off is the reading on the
dipstick?  I will assume that when its running the fluid level will go
DOWN, not up, because its being circulated.  Is this correct?
The part I never totally understood is why it need to be hot?????
Anyhow, just to get a roughly close amount with it not running or hot,
how far off is the amount (a pint, quart, etc)?

If it matters, this is a full size 1989 Chevy, 307 engine (olds type),
and I believe the trans is a turbo hydramatic.

Thank U

George
cselby@mts.net - 27 Nov 2006 16:06 GMT
>When checking transmission fluid in an automatic it says to have
>engine hot and running.  If i just want to get it close, by checking
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>Anyhow, just to get a roughly close amount with it not running or hot,
>how far off is the amount (a pint, quart, etc)?

Not running, the stick should show overfull.   Be aware that the
converter can drain down and give a 'false overfull' .    This should
be a safe OK-to-start and recheck point.

Cold running will give a more accurate picture of oil level and should
read about a pint (1/2 liter) low.  The oil expands like crazy when
hot and should come out about correct.

Pete
Mike Romain - 28 Nov 2006 15:24 GMT
The reading on the stick can be more than 2" off when the engine is off
and cold.  They vary so there is no real way to tell unless you want to
index it yourself.

If it didn't vary when off and cold I would think the makers would have
a mark on the stick for this.  Because they don't, I don't think it can
be a valid check.

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> When checking transmission fluid in an automatic it says to have
> engine hot and running.  If i just want to get it close, by checking
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>
> George
TE Chea - 01 Dec 2006 16:15 GMT
| while cold and not running, about how far off is the reading on the
| dipstick?
Depends on the # of days gearbox has been idle : ATF level will
rise when all ATF drips down to sump, after e.g. 10 days.

| DOWN, not up, because its being circulated.  Is this correct?
yes

| why it need to be hot?
Honda says chk within 1 minute of switching off engine, 1
repairer says chk when engine is running, i.e. when ATF is hot
; when cold, more ATF will have dripped down to sump.
webpa - 07 Dec 2006 01:05 GMT
> When checking transmission fluid in an automatic it says to have
> engine hot and running.  If i just want to get it close, by checking
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> George

Virtually all GM (and all other) auto transmission dipsticks have
instructions for checking fluid level printed right on the dipstick.
If you don't do it that way, you will not get a correct reading. How
the reading will be incorrect will vary with time, temperature,
angle-off-vertical the vehicle is sitting etc., etc...all in the same
vehicle.  Follow the instructions or pay the price.
 
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