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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / January 2007

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Battery dies if car stored more the 2 weeks??

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Nightmare - 28 Dec 2006 22:24 GMT
Does anyone here have a clue what could cause this?
I went out of the country a couple of months ago,businesstrip,and simply put
the car in the garage hust as I usually do.When arriving home I needed the
car but it won't start,well,no power in the battery.I've recently discovered
that the carbon in the generator gets stuck and needs to be replaced someone
also said it could be the chargingrelay,I'm very sorry about my bad english
but hope someone here understands what I mean.
Is it true if the carbon in the generator is bad they cause powerloss in the
battery??? got this hint from a friend well,neither of us i mechanics so..
Thanx in advance
Regards
webpa - 29 Dec 2006 22:43 GMT
> Does anyone here have a clue what could cause this?
> I went out of the country a couple of months ago,businesstrip,and simply put
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Thanx in advance
> Regards

"...the carbon in the generator gets stuck and needs to be replaced..."
Is the purest form of hogwash:  It is so far off the mark it isn't
even wrong.

All modern autos place a small but significant drain on the battery
even when everything is turned off.  If the battery is in good
condition and fully charged, a couple of months will not drain it to
zero.  So: Either (1) Your battery is not in good condition and was not
fully charged when you parked the car. Or (2) Something in the car is
placing an abnormallyl large drain on the battery.

(1) Can be fixed by replacing the battery, if it is defective. Or my
repairing the charging system (alternator, regulator...if separate from
the alternator, cables, etc.)

(2) Can be fixed only by measuring the drain and tracking down the
source of the abnormal drain.  A stuck-on lamp in the boot (trunk),
glove-box, or under the hood, can easily drain an otherwise healthy
battery in a few weeks. A mobi charger is not likely to do so..  Etc...
Nightmare - 30 Dec 2006 01:40 GMT
Thanx a million I'm totally lost about electrics,well,cars anyway:-)
My car is a micro van a 2001 Opel,and there is no light under the hood,not
available,hmm but I replace the battery just a year ago after a total drain
and not recharble issue.
Don't have a mobicharger either so I will have to measure and trying to
track the draining source.
Thanx again I really appreciate your answer it is very helpful.With many
things I didn't thought about,for instance the significant drain all modern
cars have.
I wish you a Happy New Year
Regards

>> Does anyone here have a clue what could cause this?
>> I went out of the country a couple of months ago,businesstrip,and simply
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> glove-box, or under the hood, can easily drain an otherwise healthy
> battery in a few weeks. A mobi charger is not likely to do so..  Etc...
Mike Romain - 29 Dec 2006 23:12 GMT
On old beasts that sit for a while, the carbon or 'brush' can get
stuck.  If it does a thump with a rubber mallet or a chunk of 2x4 lumber
used as a hammer usually fixes it.  That also is a warning the
alternator or generator if you have is usually in need of replacing or
cleaning soon....

I own Jeeps and the 'carbon' in our alternators and starters gets stuck
all the time from mud if we are off roading.  It is common to have to
take them apart and clean them.  WD40 works well as a cleaner.

Other than that the battery terminal connections can just be dirty so
the alternator doesn't fully charge up the battery and it goes dead too
soon.  A clean there can be in order.

Mike
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88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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> Does anyone here have a clue what could cause this?
> I went out of the country a couple of months ago,businesstrip,and simply put
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Thanx in advance
> Regards
Nightmare - 30 Dec 2006 01:31 GMT
Thanx a million,I'm totally gone about cars electrics so your answer was
very helpful
I forgot to mention that my car is a 2001 Opel
and I replaced the battery just a year ago so I will check the connections
and clean the alternator and replace the carbons too
Thanx again
A Happy New Year
Regards

> On old beasts that sit for a while, the carbon or 'brush' can get
> stuck.  If it does a thump with a rubber mallet or a chunk of 2x4 lumber
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>> Thanx in advance
>> Regards
Nightmare - 23 Jan 2007 21:20 GMT
For starters Thanx you guys who had some really useful tips to fix my
problem.
I changed carbons low cost:-) and had the electric system measured guess
what a relay was the cause,it was stuck and drained the battery
All fixed and generator is now cleaned inside out
Thanx again
Regards

> Does anyone here have a clue what could cause this?
> I went out of the country a couple of months ago,businesstrip,and simply
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Thanx in advance
> Regards

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