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donquijote1954 - 22 May 2007 20:37 GMT
This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
up to the Supersized Unnecessary Vehicles...

So are they the new terrorists of the road, or just innocent suckers
who fell for advertising?

Just wondering...

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Andrew - 22 May 2007 21:10 GMT
> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Just wondering...

#1 menace on the road today:    Blonde females driving white SUV's while
yapping on cell phones.

A few years back a blonde female in a white SUV almost killed me.  She went
right past me in the lane with me.  I chased her for a while and scared the
crap out of her.  I backed off once I figured she got the message.  Arkansas
tag# 113-EMF.

Less dangerous (but not by much) are any female in an SUV (color not
important).  Had a fugly brunette in a green blazer (Virginia tag LUVN-KDM)
do a really fast lane change in front of me.  I had to brake hard to keep
from getting hit.  Pulled alongside her at a stop light and told her that
she had damn near killed me with her stupid stunt.  She got this
funny/scared look on her face and rolled up her window.  I told her to watch
herself and rode off.  I have seen her from time to time since then, always
tearing through traffic being stupidly aggressive.

In case you haven't noticed, I HATE SUV's and the idiots who drive them.

Andrew
Fred G. Mackey - 23 May 2007 03:43 GMT
>>This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>>but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> crap out of her.  I backed off once I figured she got the message.  Arkansas
> tag# 113-EMF.

What's your tag #?

If there's one thing worse than a reckless SUV driver, it's someone who
tries to scare other drivers, whether it's to teach them a lesson or not.
BrianNZ - 23 May 2007 03:57 GMT
>>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> If there's one thing worse than a reckless SUV driver, it's someone who
> tries to scare other drivers, whether it's to teach them a lesson or not.

C'mon, motorcycle vs. an SUV.....who's going to come off second best?
And if the dizzy bitch drove like that, she deserves a fright back to
reality. 'Sorry, I didn't see you' just doesn't cut it for motorcyclists
that have been hit by an SUV.
Fred G. Mackey - 24 May 2007 02:48 GMT
>>>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>>>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> C'mon, motorcycle vs. an SUV.....who's going to come off second best?

It matters not - if you're driving in a manner to purposely scare
someone, that's dangerous.

> And if the dizzy bitch drove like that, she deserves a fright back to
> reality. 'Sorry, I didn't see you' just doesn't cut it for motorcyclists
> that have been hit by an SUV.
Jason Pawloski - 23 May 2007 08:10 GMT
> >>This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
> >>but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> If there's one thing worse than a reckless SUV driver, it's someone who
> tries to scare other drivers, whether it's to teach them a lesson or not.

Are you, by chance, clinically retarded? Just curious.

Jason
Andrew - 23 May 2007 12:42 GMT
> What's your tag #?

Pog Mo Thoin....
donquijote1954 - 23 May 2007 21:06 GMT
A few years back a blonde female in a white SUV almost killed me.
She went
> > right past me in the lane with me.  I chased her for a while and scared the
> > crap out of her.  I backed off once I figured she got the message.  Arkansas
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> If there's one thing worse than a reckless SUV driver, it's someone who
> tries to scare other drivers, whether it's to teach them a lesson or not.-

"Turn the other cheek" and "bend over" should be safer though
sometimes hard to do. Given them the finger can only be tried when you
got a fully loaded gun.
DFuerst - 24 May 2007 15:55 GMT
> #1 menace on the road today:    Blonde females driving white SUV's while
> yapping on cell phones.

No sh.t.  Two years ago I was rear-ended by a speeding white SUV
driven by a blonde yacking on her cell phone.  Seven grand in damage
to my car -- thankfully It. wasn't riding, I'd have been punted into
the next life.

What was even scarier, my 6 year old daugther was in the car.
Fortunately she was not hurt.  What was even scarier yet, the bimbo
had her 2 daughters in her vehicle.  I could barely get her to hang up
and call the cops.  Then the waterworks started.  "I'm the wife of a
cop."  "My husband's going to kill me" (I wish).  "You came out of
nowhere" (I was in front of you for the last 2 miles).  Boo-hoo-hoo.
Shut up and dial.  She yacked into that phone *constantly*, non-stop,
blah-blah-nauseating-blah-blah.  I wanted to take that fricking phone
and whack her upside the head with it.

Some folks just shouldn't be allowed to drive.

Darren
donquijote1954 - 24 May 2007 18:11 GMT
> Some folks just shouldn't be allowed to drive.

That's at the core of the problem. But then they get to drive the
biggest fatest SUV they can lay their hand on (or can possibly
afford)...
B. Peg - 24 May 2007 19:27 GMT
> "donquijote1954" wrote:
> .....But then they get to drive the
> biggest fatest SUV they can lay their hand on (or can possibly
> afford)...

I doubt some of them can even afford it.  The used car lots are full of 1
year old SUV's.  Credit Union has a resale lot and all SUV's are listed as
reposssesions.

I know one woman at work who bought a Jimmy.  Seems it's parked in her
driveway as she cannot come up with the $1800 insurance payment.  It's been
sititng there for two years now with a non-op on it.  Too funny.

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donquijote1954 - 24 May 2007 20:26 GMT
I hope it works... ;)

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John Mayson - 24 May 2007 21:04 GMT
> I know one woman at work who bought a Jimmy.  Seems it's parked in her
> driveway as she cannot come up with the $1800 insurance payment.  It's been
> sititng there for two years now with a non-op on it.  Too funny.

I have a friend who sold two small cars and bought two SUVs taking
advantage of the employee pricing.  He also bought a started mansion some
distance from work.  Now all he can afford for is PB&J's because every
dime is going to his electric bill, gasoline bill, two SUV payments, and a
jumbo mortgage.

Suddenly my 30+ mpg car and modest house near work doesn't seem so silly.

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David Steuber - 25 May 2007 08:48 GMT
>> Some folks just shouldn't be allowed to drive.
>
> That's at the core of the problem. But then they get to drive the
> biggest fatest SUV they can lay their hand on (or can possibly
> afford)...

And then they whine and bitch when it costs them $100+ to fill.  I
have no sympathy for SUV drivers.  Especially when they are the only
person in the vehicle with no cargo.

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donquijote1954 - 30 May 2007 18:29 GMT
--Why are all SUV drivers
lumped as one?--

No, I'm not. We are talking about SUPERSIZED UNNECESSARY VEHICLES
here. Obviously they are a bigger problem for the environment, and
even greater problem for other vehicles. Who can survive a collision
with this...

"This is the biggest baddest suv I've ever seen. It takes away a
slight amount of the guilt I have from recently purchasing a Yukon
Denali but not much. Can you imagine taking the kids to a soccer game
with this thing?"

http://www.marketingshift.com/2004/9/biggest-suv-navistar-international.cfm

--Do a Google search on Toyota Prius batteries and see how devastating
they are to the environment.The Hummer has a better "carbon
footprint",to use a cry-baby term.--

OK, perhaps hybrids are not such a good idea, perhaps they are used by
Toyota as to do some good PR for the nasty SUVs it too puts out.
Actually the lady trying to run me over was driving this type of
vehicle...

"The FJ Cruiser is the latest in a long line of celebrated off-road
vehicles from Toyota. And in the tradition of the legendary Land
Cruiser family, the FJ Cruiser is not only engineered to conquer
anything Mother Nature has to offer, but to keep coming back for more.
Find out what Rod and Ryan Millen did to prepare their FJ Cruiser TRD
for the rough-and-tumble, metal-crunching experience of racing the
length of the Mexican peninsula in the famous Baja 1000."

http://www.toyota.com/fjcruiser/index.html?s_van=GM_TN_FJ_INDEX

I guess that vehicle would not conquer Nature, but our Darwinian
roads. I rest my case.

A good common sense solution is to move into SMALL EFFICIENT CARS that
don't need to conquer anything.
donquijote1954 - 24 May 2007 18:19 GMT
--Well, size and recklessness did go hand in hand when I was younger ,
unmarried man, I must admit.
Now I plod along in my SUV in a most stately manner--

We must separate recklessness as to oneself and to others. You can be
recless in a motorcycle, but hardly dangerous to others. Or you can be
a safe driver, but still be aware that your SUV can be deadly to most
other vehicles out there (even when it's their own damn fault). Still,
congratulations for being such a considerate driver. We can only blame
your poor choice of vehicle.
J. Clarke - 24 May 2007 21:29 GMT
>> #1 menace on the road today:    Blonde females driving white SUV's
>> while yapping on cell phones.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Some folks just shouldn't be allowed to drive.

I think one should have a license to be allowed to use a telephone.
Some people just can't stop yakking no matter what.

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Timberwoof - 24 May 2007 22:50 GMT
> >> #1 menace on the road today:    Blonde females driving white SUV's
> >> while yapping on cell phones.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> I think one should have a license to be allowed to use a telephone.
> Some people just can't stop yakking no matter what.

Are you licensed to use that newsreader? All you've been doing lately is
yakking.

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J. Clarke - 25 May 2007 01:21 GMT
>>>> #1 menace on the road today:    Blonde females driving white SUV's
>>>> while yapping on cell phones.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Are you licensed to use that newsreader? All you've been doing lately
> is yakking.

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donquijote1954 - 25 May 2007 21:07 GMT
> >> #1 menace on the road today:    Blonde females driving white SUV's
> >> while yapping on cell phones.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> I think one should have a license to be allowed to use a telephone.
> Some people just can't stop yakking no matter what.

Or they should be spanked and put in the pillory. I'm considering
creating an organization called MAD ABOUT STUPID CELL PHONES AND
INDIFFERENT OFFICIALS.
timeOday - 22 May 2007 22:10 GMT
> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
> up to the Supersized Unnecessary Vehicles...

Actually I think there could be a correlation.  Some people buy big
vehicles to impress others, which is a very small step away from wanting
to intimidate them.

Also they tend to be more difficult to see out of.

Of course that's not *all* SUV drivers.  But I do wonder about those who
drive to work alone in them every day, raising gas prices for everybody.
BrianNZ - 22 May 2007 22:22 GMT
>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Also they tend to be more difficult to see out of.

?? I find I get a better view when sitting higher......

> Of course that's not *all* SUV drivers.  But I do wonder about those who
> drive to work alone in them every day, raising gas prices for everybody.
timeOday - 23 May 2007 02:10 GMT
>>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> ?? I find I get a better view when sitting higher......

Well, yes, you get good view of things further out in a big, tall car,
but not of things close in, and especially behind you (as when cutting
people off) - especially smaller vehicles almost beneath your line of
sight.  I think people sometimes find it hard to estimate how far out
their fenders and bumpers actually go.
BrianNZ - 23 May 2007 02:47 GMT
>>>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>>>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> people off) - especially smaller vehicles almost beneath your line of
> sight.

Some clever bugger invented these new fangled contraptions called
'mirrors' for that sort of thing. Admittedly not many people have read
the instructions so don't know how to use them.  :)

> I think people sometimes find it hard to estimate how far out
> their fenders and bumpers actually go.

LOL....too true! And that applies to more than just SUV drivers! I laugh
when I see a car trying to go through a gap you could drive a truck
through, but they brake and sit there, 'cos they have no idea how skinny
their car is.

The amount of people who can't hit 'road kill' when they aim for it is
funny as well.
Fred G. Mackey - 23 May 2007 03:48 GMT
>> Well, yes, you get good view of things further out in a big, tall car,
>> but not of things close in, and especially behind you (as when cutting
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> 'mirrors' for that sort of thing. Admittedly not many people have read
> the instructions so don't know how to use them.  :)

And IME, there are a lot of SUV drivers who haven't figured them out yet.

I think I've mentioned my neighbor with the Trailblazer who only avoided
backing into me while their SUV still had temporary plates on it because
I accelerated like hell when I saw them backing towards me.

I left a note on their car begging them to use their mirrors, but a few
weeks later they ended up with a big-assed dent in their bumper anyway.

BTW, I'm certain their windows meet the legal requirements for tinting
in this state.
BrianNZ - 23 May 2007 03:55 GMT
>>> Well, yes, you get good view of things further out in a big, tall
>>> car, but not of things close in, and especially behind you (as when
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> BTW, I'm certain their windows meet the legal requirements for tinting
> in this state.

Wev'e had some toddlers killed by SUV's backing out of driveways,
usually their own kids or family members kids. Iv'e seen an SUV 'touch'
park in town when they could have been using the shop front window as a
'side view' mirror. I have an old 'Series' Landrover so it doesn't count
as an SUV....just a UV.

I have a long driveway which I reverse out of (when I'm not riding) and
I always physically check behind the ute before I get in. I'd be pissed
of if I ran over a pushbike left on the drive, but I'd hate to run over
a kid!
J. Clarke - 23 May 2007 11:06 GMT
>>>> Well, yes, you get good view of things further out in a big, tall
>>>> car, but not of things close in, and especially behind you (as when
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Wev'e had some toddlers killed by SUV's backing out of driveways,
> usually their own kids or family members kids.

Not sure any amount of diligence can prevent that--kids do stupid
things.  I'd have killed one in high school if I hadn't just by chance
happened to be looking in the mirror while he walked behind my car and
crouched down.  The size of the vehicle has nothing to do with it--even
an Austin has enough blind space for a kid to hide in.

> Iv'e seen an SUV
> 'touch' park in town when they could have been using the shop front
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> pissed of if I ran over a pushbike left on the drive, but I'd hate to
> run over a kid!

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Murderous Speeding Drunken Driver - 23 May 2007 03:22 GMT
>>>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>>>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>sight.  I think people sometimes find it hard to estimate how far out
>their fenders and bumpers actually go.

If it's more difficult for smaller vehicles to be seen by the drivers
of SUVs, then that's the clue for owners of smaller vehicles to modify
their driving behaviors.

Either that, or they can satisfy the darwin mechanism; no loss on my
part.

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Keith Schiffner - 23 May 2007 04:03 GMT
>>>>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>>>>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> of SUVs, then that's the clue for owners of smaller vehicles to modify
> their driving behaviors.

Yep my behaviour changed...I knock the mirrors off and ride away whilst the poor
SUV driver sits and crys in the middle of the road while an 18 wheeler gives him
an enema at 65mph. They can all f.ck off and die or start riding a motorcycle
and save not only their lives but their souls also.

> Either that, or they can satisfy the darwin mechanism; no loss on my
> part.

Actually fucktard on a motorcycle I have a BETTER view than anything but a Semi
or on of the new Queen Elizabeth class RV's. I see more, I hear more, I smell
more and more importantly I see more tits and more bared pussy than you limp
dicked fucktard in you dick enhancing SUV's. So do toddle off and cry to your
transvestite whore girlfriends...I don't care about those wastes of space that
have for wheels as far as I care they could melt down every stinking car ever
made just to build me a nice trellis bridge.

Kill cager get a free beer that's my motto.

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Murderous Speeding Drunken Driver - 23 May 2007 12:51 GMT
>>>>>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>>>>>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>an enema at 65mph. They can all f.ck off and die or start riding a motorcycle
>and save not only their lives but their souls also.

Heh heh, yeah, I rode a motorcycle for a bit too. You're right, your
visibility is GREATLY increased. Unfortunately your visibility to
other drivers is greatly decreased. That's a darwinistic approach, but
have it your way.

>> Either that, or they can satisfy the darwin mechanism; no loss on my
>> part.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>have for wheels as far as I care they could melt down every stinking car ever
>made just to build me a nice trellis bridge.

LMAO. Ok, so a SUV and a motorcycle collide. Who "wins"? BWAHAHAHA.
How well does your motorcycle serve you during heavy rains?

>Kill cager get a free beer that's my motto.

Try it if you can, but I believe the men in white will be sucking your
a.s off the asphalt with an eye dropper.

There's a reason fatality rates in accidents involving motorcycles;
it's because their idiot drivers are at the bottom of the gene pool.

Have fun with your crotch rocket biker whores while you can; it won't
last long. :-D

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Matthew T. Russotto - 25 May 2007 21:30 GMT
>Yep my behaviour changed...I knock the mirrors off and ride away whilst the poor
>SUV driver sits and crys in the middle of the road while an 18 wheeler gives him
>an enema at 65mph. They can all f.ck off and die or start riding a motorcycle
>and save not only their lives but their souls also.

With an attitude like that, you need to be riding a bicycle, not a motorcycle.
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Murderous Speeding Drunken Driver - 23 May 2007 03:21 GMT
>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Of course that's not *all* SUV drivers.  But I do wonder about those who
>drive to work alone in them every day, raising gas prices for everybody.

Having recently converted from a coupe to a suv, I can say that I
won't be making the switch back any time soon. The increased
visibility does wonders for increasing my situational awareness, and
my increased mass does wonders for increasing the situational
awareness of the LLBers in front of me.

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David Steuber - 25 May 2007 09:00 GMT
> Having recently converted from a coupe to a suv, I can say that I
> won't be making the switch back any time soon. The increased
> visibility does wonders for increasing my situational awareness, and
> my increased mass does wonders for increasing the situational
> awareness of the LLBers in front of me.

That's why I sell a line of hollow caltrops that are visible to bikers
but not to SUVers.  Roll over now.

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Murderous Speeding Drunken Driver - 25 May 2007 11:35 GMT
>> Having recently converted from a coupe to a suv, I can say that I
>> won't be making the switch back any time soon. The increased
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>That's why I sell a line of hollow caltrops that are visible to bikers
>but not to SUVers.  Roll over now.

Bring 'em on, if you can loser!

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donquijote1954 - 25 May 2007 21:14 GMT
> John Mayson <j...@mayson.us> writes:
> >> So, you see? 2 out of 3 of your list, in one day, in less than 15 minutes,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Should I run for POTUS in 2008?

If Mickey got these many votes, you can give it shot (pun intended)...

"Mickey Mouse got over 400 votes in the 2000 Presidential campaign in
the State of Florida alone. There is no way I would have beaten Mickey
in Florida. It would have been embarrasing to lose to a Mouse. I mean
what would I tell my kids."

http://uspresident.blogspot.com/2004_08_01_archive.html

By the way, where would you shoot an SUV, between the headlights?
Murderous Speeding Drunken Driver - 27 May 2007 14:26 GMT
>> John Mayson <j...@mayson.us> writes:
>> >> So, you see? 2 out of 3 of your list, in one day, in less than 15 minutes,
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
>By the way, where would you shoot an SUV, between the headlights?

I think the best location for him to aim to solve his problem is
between his eyes.

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B. Peg - 22 May 2007 22:36 GMT
> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
> up to the Supersized Unnecessary Vehicles...

Maybe true.

Saw a realty lady in one talking with two cell phones - one to each ear - at
a stoplight.  Might be steering with her knees too.

Wonder if she'd had a third ear, would she need a third cell phone?

Text messaging with her toes would be next.

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Justin - 23 May 2007 02:34 GMT
In rec.motorcycles donquijote1954 <nolionnoproblem@hotmail.com> wrote:

: So are they the new terrorists of the road, or just innocent suckers
: who fell for advertising?

My guess is that these people would be downright dangerous in ANY vehicle,
and whatever makes them dangerous to begin with (Bad drivers?  Nervous on
the road?  Feelings of insecurity?) was also at least partially also the
reason they felt the need for an SUV.

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BryanUT - 23 May 2007 02:40 GMT
> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE
> http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1

Well today I saw the results of an accident, at an intersection that should
not be a problem.  Yep, it was an SUV.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Driver - 23 May 2007 03:34 GMT
>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>Well today I saw the results of an accident, at an intersection that should
>not be a problem.  Yep, it was an SUV.

Last week I saw the results of an accident, at an intersection that
should not be a problem, between two vehicles. Nope, neither was an
SUV, so your study has been invalidated.

Thanks for playing!

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BryanUT - 23 May 2007 04:50 GMT
>>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Thanks for playing!

Who said I did a "study"?  It was just an observation.
BrianNZ - 23 May 2007 04:56 GMT
>>>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>>>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Who said I did a "study"?  It was just an observation.

Last Friday I 'observed' a Landrover Discovery drive through a give way
outside my house....where it was promptly T-boned by a Nissan sedan who
had the right of way. I was impressed that the Nissan was a write of
while the Landy was only damaged from the front guard to the back of the
front door. Both drivers were OK (air bags deployed).

Third 'accident' this year at that intersection.......
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 23 May 2007 06:24 GMT
> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
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>
> Just wondering...

They are both terrorists and morons. The way to put a stop to this is to
base traffic violation penalties on the listed weight of the vehicle.
Problem solved.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Driver - 23 May 2007 12:32 GMT
>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>base traffic violation penalties on the listed weight of the vehicle.
>Problem solved.

Morons? Was it an SUV owner who some time back asked why bumpers
weren't on the sides of cars?

ROTFLMAO. Of all the retarded sh.t you've written over the years, and
you think others are morons? That's rich. :-)

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 24 May 2007 02:33 GMT
>>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
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> ROTFLMAO. Of all the retarded sh.t you've written over the years, and
> you think others are morons? That's rich. :-)

What is so bad about bumpers on the side of cars???  Only reason we
don't have them is cause the body shops don't want them.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Driver - 24 May 2007 04:03 GMT
>>>> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
>>>> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>What is so bad about bumpers on the side of cars???  Only reason we
>don't have them is cause the body shops don't want them.

ROTFLMAO. Just when I think you couldn't post anything dumber, you go
and prove me wrong. The only people who would benefit from bumpers on
the sides of cars are inept, incompetent drivers, which is how I
understand your deep desire and need for side mounted bumpers.

You'd be better off spending your money on driver's education courses
than you would on expanding your gay porno collection.

By the way, I recall that you've posted at least twice you were
involved in fatal accidents. How many people did you kill with your
ineptitude?

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proehling - 24 May 2007 03:10 GMT
> They are both terrorists and morons. The way to put a stop to this is to
> base traffic violation penalties on the listed weight of the vehicle.
> Problem solved.

Ah, yes. For every complex and difficult problem there is a simple answer
that is absolutely useless.

But then you've never let that stop you before, so why start now?
Magnulus - 23 May 2007 07:16 GMT
My ranking of cars to watch out for:

Big Lincolns and Buicks.  Usually driven by gray hairs.  Stay far
away.  They will do very stupid stuff and rarely check blind spots or
look both ways.  IMO, anybody driving one of these things should just
hand in their keys now, they are way over the hill.

SUV's (women) and trophy trucks (men).  Usually these people can't see
what's behind them and have huge blind spots.  Often they are busy
with something else while driving.  Give them a wide berth.

Minivans- not as bad as SUV's but generally same problems, just not
quite as severe.  The drivers are often busy with kids or on a cell
phone

Cheap cars like Sentras or Civics- look for obvious signs of being
either very new or neglected.  You gotta watch out because they are
usually driven by younger, inexperienced drivers who often speed or
make frequent lane changes without signalling.

Beaters- probably a drunk driver, illegal immigrant, or Puerto Rican/
Salvadorian.  Same thing.  Chemicals and third-world upbringing mean
these folks just cannot drive as well as they should.

 That pretty much covers every car on the road, though, doesn't it?
J. Clarke - 23 May 2007 11:15 GMT
>   My ranking of cars to watch out for:
>
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> usually driven by younger, inexperienced drivers who often speed or
> make frequent lane changes without signalling.

Saw a woman in a Universal Japanese Econobox pull out in front of a
bright yellow dump truck the other day.  Dump truck lit up all 14 tires
avoiding killing the moron.

> Beaters- probably a drunk driver, illegal immigrant, or Puerto Rican/
> Salvadorian.  Same thing.  Chemicals and third-world upbringing mean
> these folks just cannot drive as well as they should.
>
>   That pretty much covers every car on the road, though, doesn't it?

One that I'm having trouble figuring out is Mercedes SUVs.  Four times
now I've been behind one that was passing an 18 wheeler.  The 18 wheeler
was going about 64.9999 mph and the Mercedes was apparently trying to
pass it without violating the speed limit.  Then once it's past the 18
wheeler, _then_ it speeds up to 80 or so.

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Dzlman95 - 23 May 2007 20:55 GMT
>  My ranking of cars to watch out for:
>
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>
>  That pretty much covers every car on the road, though, doesn't it?

   And which of these do YOU drive ?
donquijote1954 - 23 May 2007 21:40 GMT
--My observation: 10 years ago all
the young mothers were hauling a.s in Honda Accords. --

I remember that. I guess they learned that in the jungle you better be
predator than prey.
donquijote1954 - 24 May 2007 17:51 GMT
> The only AFFORDABLE way I know to level the field with an SUV is to go
> to a pawn shop and get a gun. Try to avoid the ones that are rusted.
> Aiming accuracy though is not that important when you aim at a BIG FAT
> SUV.

You could just try being an attentive and courteous driver. Nah, that
would be too difficult, wouldn't it???

No, just that would test your Christian faith similar to being nailed
to the cross. Well, Christians are pro-gun too, right?
David Steuber - 25 May 2007 09:21 GMT
> No, just that would test your Christian faith similar to being nailed
> to the cross. Well, Christians are pro-gun too, right?

Only about half of them.

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Murderous Speeding Drunken Driver - 24 May 2007 04:23 GMT
>>  My ranking of cars to watch out for:
>>
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>
>    And which of these do YOU drive ?

There's a bit missing from this list such as sports cars, luxury
imports, and he did qualify some conditions such as female driven SUVs
and male driven trophy trucks.


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Gary V - 23 May 2007 13:54 GMT
On May 22, 3:37 pm, donquijote1954 <nolionnoprob...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
> up to the Supersized Unnecessary Vehicles...

So under your theory, the most reckless drivers would be those driving
commercial busses and trucks, the largest vehicles on the road.  Right?
donquijote1954 - 23 May 2007 21:27 GMT
> On May 22, 3:37 pm, donquijote1954 <nolionnoprob...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> So under your theory, the most reckless drivers would be those driving
> commercial busses and trucks, the largest vehicles on the road.  Right?

Not quite, they are properly trained and are far fewer.
Blazing Laser - 23 May 2007 17:32 GMT
I heard a psychologist on the radio a few months ago talking about why
people want BIG cars.  This included not just SUVs but men who drive
around in full-sized pickup trucks that never carry anything in the
bed.  He said it had to do with our 'reptile brain', the way we think
at a very basic level.  Basically, the idea was 'I'm bigger than you,
so I can EAT you.'  It's not surprising that you see this attitude in
the way they drive too.
donquijote1954 - 23 May 2007 18:44 GMT
On May 22, 6:49 pm, necromancer
<55_sux@worldofnecromancer_nospam_noway.org> wrote:

> > I'm an avid bicyclists.  I have learned which vehicles and drivers to be
> > wary of.  I realize this isn't scientific.  I also realize given I ride
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> "mufflers," and think that they have to drive at full throttle all the
> time.

No, the best are ones that hang "balls" behind them...

I guess they signal they are the macho men (or women) of the road.
Haven't you seen them?
CGroth - 23 May 2007 23:02 GMT
> On May 22, 6:49 pm, necromancer

>> You ought to try riding in my area. The most dangerous of all are the
>> brain dead rednecks in silverados/f150's/rams who put glass packs in for
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I guess they signal they are the macho men (or women) of the road.
> Haven't you seen them?

I've seen those. I used to wonder where they put the other feature of
male anatomy, but then I realized, they put that behind the steering wheel.
necromancer - 23 May 2007 23:10 GMT
donquijote1954:
> > You ought to try riding in my area. The most dangerous of all are the
> > brain dead rednecks in silverados/f150's/rams who put glass packs in for
> > "mufflers," and think that they have to drive at full throttle all the
> > time.
>
> No, the best are ones that hang "balls" behind them...

A sign of poor taste and a complete lack of class, but the balls are not
putting anyone in danger.

> I guess they signal they are the macho men (or women) of the road.

Or compensating for their.. ahem... inadequacies...

> Haven't you seen them?

You mean like this? http://snipurl.com/1lrgg  one of the original
picture pages on my website.....

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RG - 24 May 2007 02:19 GMT
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> > You ought to try riding in my area. The most dangerous of all are the
> > brain dead rednecks in silverados/f150's/rams who put glass packs in for
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I guess they signal they are the macho men (or women) of the road.
> Haven't you seen them?

I've seen them in a big truck which it's brainless driver almost pushed me
out of the road becuase he had to pass me, right after the 2 lanes became 1.
I dunno if CHP got him. I was pissed and reported it. I'm a good driver but
I hate when this MoFos turn the odds againts me.

Raul G
donquijote1954 - 24 May 2007 18:01 GMT
> (snip)
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> I dunno if CHP got him. I was pissed and reported it. I'm a good driver but
> I hate when this MoFos turn the odds againts me.

The CHP should catch them by the balls, but they look the other way. I
think only speed catches thier attention (and their radars). :(
C. E. White - 24 May 2007 03:08 GMT
> This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
> but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Just wondering...

Plenty of rude, reckless, inconsiderate, aggressive, brain dead, cellphone
talking, etc. drivers in sedans. You just notice SUV drivers more. This is
because SUVs are larger and also because you already have a bias against
SUVs. I used to think Saturn drivers were brain dead obnoxious SOBs, but
finally realized I just disliked the cars, and tended to notice them more
when they did something I didn't approve of.

Ed
donquijote1954 - 24 May 2007 18:06 GMT
> > This is subjective, in other words what I see around with my own eyes,
> > but it seems that size and recklessness go hand in hand, all the way
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> finally realized I just disliked the cars, and tended to notice them more
> when they did something I didn't approve of.

Maybe it's because they are up to 16 times more dangerous to regular
cars, or because they got a bigger ego that makes them blind to
smaller cars.

If you however drive, say, a Saturn, you wouldn't try to intimidate
another Saturn, right? It's just like bullies pick on the smaller
guys.
 
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