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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / June 2007

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Buried 57 plymouth in 50 year Time Capsule Unearthed!

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Huck Flynn - 16 Jun 2007 01:35 GMT
Live coverage is at ..kotv.com now Fri. 8pm est.
Or go to www.buriedcar.com for info.
Jeff DeWitt - 16 Jun 2007 21:24 GMT
> Live coverage is at ..kotv.com now Fri. 8pm est.
> Or go to www.buriedcar.com for info.

Here are pictures of what was in that time capsule and the car.  Sadly
the car didn't do so well...

http://www.buriedcar.com/photo_gallery_new.htm

Jeff DeWitt
Jeff - 16 Jun 2007 21:36 GMT
>> Live coverage is at ..kotv.com now Fri. 8pm est.
>> Or go to www.buriedcar.com for info.
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>
> Jeff DeWitt

A more accurate statement is that sadly, the people who packaged the car
didn't do a good job. It's hard to seal something properly for 50 years.

Next time, they should put it in a concrete container lined with plastic
*above* ground.

Jeff
Bruce L. Bergman - 17 Jun 2007 03:19 GMT
>>> Live coverage is at ..kotv.com now Fri. 8pm est.
>>> Or go to www.buriedcar.com for info.
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>Next time, they should put it in a concrete container lined with plastic
>*above* ground.

 Still probably wouldn't be enough for 50 years and usable contents.
Ask any military operation in the world -  Something that needs to
work after long term storage needs to be in a sealed box with active
humidity control (dehumidifier or desiccant) and under pressure so any
container leaks will go out.  There needs to be active pressure and
humidity monitoring so they can restore container integrity before the
contents are compromised.

 Inert atmosphere (pure nitrogen, argon, etc.) and active cathodic
corrosion control is preferred but not essential.

 And that inner box needs to be protected in an outer vault with
positive drainage, up on a small hill so gravity alone would take care
of any water collection.  Sump pumps break, or are forgotten - it
would be rare for someone to actively monitor the ongoing integrity of
a Time Capsule, short of funding an annuity and having a legal trustee
administer a maintenance contract, things get forgotten.

 Note that the items that were sealed inside the conventional cast
iron "Time Capsule" in the same vault space have survived.  For that
small a space, a good seal, inert atmosphere and sufficient desiccant
will work.

 60 year plus old paper insulated telephone cable in underground
ducts is still in excellent working condition - because it was in
sealed splice cases, the cables are kept under 10 PSI positive
pressure with either dry air or dry nitrogen, and the splice cases are
packed with fresh desiccant packets each time they are opened.

    --<< Bruce >>--
Huck Flynn - 17 Jun 2007 06:17 GMT
>>>> Live coverage is at ..kotv.com now Fri. 8pm est.
>>>> Or go to www.buriedcar.com for info.
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>     --<< Bruce >>--

Next time they do it, they should bury it with a video feed looking at the
car. That way it can be seen if any water leaks occur in the car, not only
that we can watch the car on our computers via the internet live! Can you
imagine how exciting it would be to sit back and just watch the car age for
50 years! And 50 years from now after removing the car they can rewind the
video and playback the video with high speed time laspe cutting down 50
years of video into an hour! Now that would be quite cool...yes quite cool
indeed.
Huck Flynn - 17 Jun 2007 06:18 GMT
>>>> Live coverage is at ..kotv.com now Fri. 8pm est.
>>>> Or go to www.buriedcar.com for info.
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>
>     --<< Bruce >>--

Next time they do it, they should bury it with a video feed looking at the
car. That way it can be seen if any water leaks occur in the car, not only
that we can watch the car on our computers via the internet live! Can you
imagine how exciting it would be to sit back and just watch the car age for
50 years! And 50 years from now after removing the car they can rewind the
video and playback the video with high speed time laspe cutting down 50
years of video into an hour! Now that would be quite cool...yes quite cool
indeed.
Johnny  Cakes - 19 Jun 2007 04:39 GMT
> >>>> Live coverage is at ..kotv.com now Fri. 8pm est.
> >>>> Or go to www.buriedcar.com for info.
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> years of video into an hour! Now that would be quite cool...yes quite cool
> indeed.

That a brilliant idea Huck!
Ted Mittelstaedt - 18 Jun 2007 09:01 GMT
> >>> Live coverage is at ..kotv.com now Fri. 8pm est.
> >>> Or go to www.buriedcar.com for info.
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> humidity control (dehumidifier or desiccant) and under pressure so any
> container leaks will go out.

I believe the US Military uses Edwards AFB in AZ to store this kind of
thing without all the fancy sealed boxes and humidity control.  If the
car had been put down there and tarped, it would have probably lasted
perfectly well.

Ted
Tim J. - 18 Jun 2007 11:59 GMT
>>   Still probably wouldn't be enough for 50 years and usable contents.
>> Ask any military operation in the world -  Something that needs to
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>car had been put down there and tarped, it would have probably lasted
>perfectly well.

You're thinking of Davis-Monthan AFB, the location of AMARC.  Edwards
is in California.

http://www.dm.af.mil/units/amarc.asp
Jeff DeWitt - 19 Jun 2007 01:20 GMT
>>>>> Live coverage is at ..kotv.com now Fri. 8pm est.
>>>>> Or go to www.buriedcar.com for info.
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> Ted

No doubt it would have, but that location would have sort of defeated
the purpose of the Tulsaram wouldn't it? <G>

Jeff DeWitt
Johnny  Cakes - 19 Jun 2007 04:38 GMT
> >>>>> Live coverage is at ..kotv.com now Fri. 8pm est.
> >>>>> Or go to www.buriedcar.com for info.
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> Jeff DeWitt

I am pretty sure they had Saran Wrap in 1957...duuuhhh.
 
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