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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / November 2007

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Why would(n't) you buy an electric car?

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bemw2007@gmail.com - 08 Nov 2007 05:39 GMT
Doing some research as an undergraduate at University of California,
Merced. Feel free to discuss it here but it would be much appreciated
and more beneficial to me if you could take my quick survey.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=d955thfZ3ocAAjgCpYwxjA_3d_3d

Thanks.
Jeff DeWitt - 08 Nov 2007 23:10 GMT
> Doing some research as an undergraduate at University of California,
> Merced. Feel free to discuss it here but it would be much appreciated
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> Thanks.

Limited range, takes far too long to "refuel".

In other words you can't take one on a road trip, and if you can't take
a car on a road trip it's not a real car.

Jeff DeWitt
benteaches@gmail.com - 12 Nov 2007 07:59 GMT
> bemw2...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Doing some research as an undergraduate at University of California,
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> Jeff DeWitt

Nationally, the average commute is about 30 miles a day. 30 seconds to
plug in at night...
Maybe not a perfect solution, but not bad either

Ben
Jeff DeWitt - 13 Nov 2007 03:03 GMT
>>bemw2...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Ben

Most people don't want to spend the money to buy, maintain, license,
insure and pay the taxes on two vehciles just because one isn't capable
of being used for the everyday things any car should be able to do.

Until electric cars can do those day to day things a car needs to do at
least as well as the cheapest conventional car they are going to have a
very limited market... and as long as the market is limited the price is
going to be high.

Jeff DeWitt
benteaches@gmail.com - 13 Nov 2007 20:33 GMT
> benteac...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Jeff DeWitt

Jeff,
That was a great response.
Here in California, there are about as many registered cars as
residents, which tells me that there is a pretty high percentage of 2
(or more) car families. An EV with a 45 mile range would cover over
90% of their needs.
I used to drive an EV to work and back, and used the wifes car for
long distance stuff. Charging at night I got an 'off-peak' rate which
was quite cheap (IIRC, a full charge cost me about 30 cents, which was
good for about 35 miles)

When someone makes the EV you described, I'll be ready to buy. Global
warming, smog, oil wars, Hubberts peak... take your pick, our current
rate of oil consumption cant last forever, and cheap gasoline is a
thing of the past.

Ben
jyazel@ds.net - 09 Nov 2007 03:13 GMT
>Doing some research as an undergraduate at University of California,
>Merced. Feel free to discuss it here but it would be much appreciated
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>Thanks.
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It would take years to save enough money
on gas to cancel the extremely large difference in price between the
electric car and the standard gasoline car.

Add to that the very large cost of maintenance and repair of specialty
cars.
Jeff DeWitt - 09 Nov 2007 03:40 GMT
>>Doing some research as an undergraduate at University of California,
>>Merced. Feel free to discuss it here but it would be much appreciated
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>  Add to that the very large cost of maintenance and repair of specialty
> cars.

Well... it depends on the electric car, if your talking about a Tesla
yes, but electric cars don't have to cost that much.

And remember back in the early days of the automobile the electric car
was a very strong competitor to the primitive gas powered cars of the day.

A mass produced electric car wouldn't have to cost any more (and perhaps
less) than a conventional car, but there isn't a big enough market for
them for the economies of scale to really kick in.

A well designed electric car should cost significantly less than a
conventional car as they are not nearly as complex... no IC engine,
probably no transmission, no cooling system, no exhaust system, no fuel
system.

Jeff DeWitt
Bugalugs - 09 Nov 2007 08:59 GMT
>>> Doing some research as an undergraduate at University of California,
>>> Merced. Feel free to discuss it here but it would be much appreciated
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> Jeff DeWitt

And no distance.

You'd always have to make sure you didn't go too far so you could get
home again. If you want to take a trip into the mountains do you have to
stop for a couple of hours every hour or so to recharge. With current
technology you can't pull into a gas station, refuel, and be on your way
again in 10 minutes.
jyazel@ds.net - 09 Nov 2007 14:45 GMT
>>  It would take years to save enough money
>> on gas to cancel the extremely large difference in price between the
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>Jeff DeWitt
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You are absolutely correct with your "I wish" world. However, in the real
world (to my knowledge), there are no cars available as described and
there won't be for a very long time.

 I was responding about the vehicles available today.

 If I'm wrong, let me know and I will run out and buy one.

    Jack
Jeff DeWitt - 09 Nov 2007 23:36 GMT
>>> It would take years to save enough money
>>>on gas to cancel the extremely large difference in price between the
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>      Jack

Your not and there isn't, but something close will be coming soon,
especially as high as oil prices are.

Jeff DeWitt
 
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