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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / December 2007

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1995 Honda Accord EX

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burtonandi@yahoo.com - 11 Dec 2007 20:10 GMT
I have a 1995 Honda Accord EX with 183,000 miles on it.  The repair
shop told me in needed to replace the water pump and replace the
timing belt.  They're charging $902 to do the repair which seems
expensive to me.  Is this a reasonable price?
Doug  Adams - 11 Dec 2007 23:47 GMT
Sounds plenty high to me, but then again I do most of my own mechanic work.
I was in a dealer last night and noticed that their shop rate was $72 an
hour. I guess that is not too bad if they are paying the mechanic $25 an
hour. I would say they are probably really paying $15-16 and the rest is
"overhead".

I would think some independant shop would do that for $500-$600, assuming
the parts are not more than $150-$175.

>I have a 1995 Honda Accord EX with 183,000 miles on it.  The repair
> shop told me in needed to replace the water pump and replace the
> timing belt.  They're charging $902 to do the repair which seems
> expensive to me.  Is this a reasonable price?
cselby@mts.net - 12 Dec 2007 21:15 GMT
>I have a 1995 Honda Accord EX with 183,000 miles on it.  The repair
>shop told me in needed to replace the water pump and replace the
>timing belt.  They're charging $902 to do the repair which seems
>expensive to me.  Is this a reasonable price?

That would likely be : timing belt, belt tensioner, crank seal, cam
seal(s), water pump.  If you are doing the belt - do the seals as you
are right there and they get hard and only take 15 min or less to
replace.  The water pump is also exposed and is a good time to do - it
costs labor to re-expose it again.

Timing belt kit (tensioner and belt) about 150$
Water pump about 140$
Seals   about 40$  (my parts pricing is ballpark)
The rest is labor.  Job takes about 3-4 hrs.

Doing the water pump with the belt at the same time should save labor
costs.  You take the same things apart to get at the parts.  Sounds
like they are quoting for two labour operations for one job.

Pete
licenced automotive mechanic
licenced heavy equipment mechanic
benteaches@gmail.com - 13 Dec 2007 18:05 GMT
> Doing the water pump with the belt at the same time should save labor
> costs.  You take the same things apart to get at the parts.  Sounds
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> licenced automotive mechanic
> licenced heavy equipment mechanic

@ possiubilities here...
1 they are thieves and trying to charge you a mint for a $350 repair.
2. You drove the car until the timing belt broke, bending a bunch of
valves, in which $902 is a reasonable price.
Did it break while you were driving?

HTH,
Ben
Jeff DeWitt - 14 Dec 2007 03:26 GMT
>>Doing the water pump with the belt at the same time should save labor
>>costs.  You take the same things apart to get at the parts.  Sounds
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> HTH,
> Ben

Do those things have interference engines?  If they do yeah, that gets
ugly when the belt breaks.  I had a Fiat 128 that did that the day I
bought the thing.

Jeff DeWitt
benteaches@gmail.com - 15 Dec 2007 16:03 GMT
> benteac...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>Doing the water pump with the belt at the same time should save labor
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> Jeff DeWitt

Yes they are, and when they go, they bend a handful of valves, usually
a gentle 's' shape, and sometimes crack valve guides.
Jeff DeWitt - 16 Dec 2007 13:55 GMT
>>benteac...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Yes they are, and when they go, they bend a handful of valves, usually
> a gentle 's' shape, and sometimes crack valve guides.

Hmm... I thought better of Honda's engineering than that, but then I've
never had a Honda.

Jeff DeWitt
Refinish King - 16 Dec 2007 22:33 GMT
Honda makes several engines that are not"non interference" engines.

But, I haven't worked on any Hondas for a couple of years.

RK

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> Jeff DeWitt
 
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