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Faulty part prompts Toyota to recall 15,600 Tundras Ryan Beene Automotive News December 14, 2007 - 12:35 pm ET Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. is recalling 15,600 2007 Toyota Tundra pickups because a transmission part could break. Toyota says the rear propeller shaft on four-wheel-drive Tundras could separate at a joint. No accidents or injuries have been reported resulting from the faulty shaft. "The front joint on the rear driveshaft may have been improperly heat treated by our supplier," a Toyota spokesman said. "In the worst case, the shaft may separate at the joint." Toyota discovered the flaw after a customer complained of abnormal noises coming from the shaft. Owners of the recalled trucks will receive a notification in the mail starting late this month, Toyota said in a statement today. The recall is not related to the previously reported "rumble strip" noise that came from the torque converter's inability to change gears, which has yet to result in a recall but has prompted Toyota to replace entire transmissions. Toyota also replaced some Tundra engines this year because of faulty camshafts. The automaker hopes to sell 200,000 of the redesigned full-sized trucks this year. P.O.S........... > Faulty part prompts Toyota to recall 15,600 Tundras > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > camshafts. The automaker hopes to sell 200,000 of the redesigned > full-sized trucks this year. Yeah, Toyota's trucks are more for weekend rides than actual work. But their Corolla is great - cheap and reliable transportation! Beats Yugo. > Faulty part prompts Toyota to recall 15,600 Tundras > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > camshafts. The automaker hopes to sell 200,000 of the redesigned full-sized > trucks this year. And how many recalls has Generally Mediocre had on their vehicles? And of course Henry Fraud's great company never had any either. And let's look at longevity. Amerikan vehicles start falling apart as they are driven off the dealer's lot. > And how many recalls has Generally Mediocre had on their vehicles? And of > course Henry Fraud's great company never had any either. > And let's look at longevity. Amerikan vehicles start falling apart as they > are driven off the dealer's lot. You mean like the F150 that I owned for 14 years, that never saw a repair shop until it was 12 years old? Or the 1999 Ranger my Mother owns that has never needed a single repair? Or the 2005 Freestyle that my Mother owns that has never been back to the dealer? Or the 1997 Expedition I drove for 147,000 with two repairs (one alternator and one coil pack). Why is it that Toyota owners assume becasue Toyota fall apart that all other brands must be even worse? On my way home this mrning I was behind a generation one Tundra that was leaking so much oil that I had to stop and clean my wnidsheild. Oh What a Feeling, Moving Forward , and the latest Toyota slogan - Don't Blame Toyota, If you own a Toyota and it breaks - It is your fault, or at least the supplier's fault. Ed Or my Jeep that went over 200,000 miles before in needed so much as a water pump? The same Jeep that now has over 350,000 miles on it? Jeff DeWitt >>And how many recalls has Generally Mediocre had on their vehicles? And of >>course Henry Fraud's great company never had any either. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Ed well just let me say..... drove a toyota 4x4 for 14 years, never a mechanical problem. sold said truck and see it go by every day 5 years later. oh by the way it plowed snow every winter and did trails in the summer. hauled many a chevy and ford out of the mud also. not bad for a weekend ride lite duty japanese machine. > Yeah, Toyota's trucks are more for weekend rides than actual work. But > their Corolla is great - cheap and reliable transportation! Beats [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> full-sized >> trucks this year. >Faulty part prompts Toyota to recall 15,600 Tundras Back atcha', troll! Ford Recalls 1.2 Million SUVs, Trucks AP Posted: 2007-12-06 16:18:46 Filed Under: Recalls DETROIT (Dec. 6) - Ford Motor Co. said Thursday it is recalling 1.17 million trucks, sport utility vehicles and vans to fix an engine sensor that could lead to engine stalling. <http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_a/ford-recalls-12-million-suvs-trucks/200712 06121109990001> >>Faulty part prompts Toyota to recall 15,600 Tundras > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > <http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_a/ford-recalls-12-million-suvs-trucks/200712 06121109990001> Hmmm.... "J.D. Power and Associates Reports: Ford Motor Company Captures Most Awards in 2007 Initial Quality Study Product Launches Create Quality Challenges for Manufacturers WESTLAKE VILLAGE, Calif.: 6 June 2007 — Ford Motor Company garners five top model segment awards—more than any other automobile corporation this year, according to the J.D. Power and Associates 2007 Initial Quality StudySM (IQS) released today. In the study, Ford Motor Company earns model segment awards for the Ford Mustang, Lincoln Mark LT, Lincoln MKZ, Mazda MX-5 Miata and Mercury Milan. “The 2007 IQS results contain some encouraging and positive news for Ford Motor Company,” said Neal Oddes, director of product research and analysis at J.D. Power and Associates. “Fourteen Ford Motor Company models place in the top three of their respective segments—an achievement unmatched by any other corporation this year—which is a testament to the improvement in quality for Ford Motor Company vehicle models and plants. In addition, their Lincoln nameplate, which receives two segment awards, improves considerably to rank third in 2007, from 12th in 2006.” http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/pressrelease.aspx?id=2007088 > In the study, Ford Motor Company earns model segment awards for the Ford > Mustang, Lincoln Mark LT, Lincoln MKZ, Mazda MX-5 Miata and Mercury Milan. Due to Ford's anti-family donation practices I will never purchase a FORD, ever.  SignatureLeythos - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) >>In the study, Ford Motor Company earns model segment awards for the Ford >>Mustang, Lincoln Mark LT, Lincoln MKZ, Mazda MX-5 Miata and Mercury Milan. > > Due to Ford's anti-family donation practices I will never purchase a > FORD, ever. Different subject... all the automakers are too damn PC. > >>In the study, Ford Motor Company earns model segment awards for the Ford > >>Mustang, Lincoln Mark LT, Lincoln MKZ, Mazda MX-5 Miata and Mercury Milan. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > Different subject... all the automakers are too damn PC. Making huge donations to gay groups is not PC, it's unethical and I will never purchase FORD or Ford Sponsored products because of it. SignatureLeythos - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) > > > Due to Ford's anti-family donation practices I will never purchase a > > > FORD, ever. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Making huge donations to gay groups is not PC, it's unethical and I will > never purchase FORD or Ford Sponsored products because of it. It's not unethical if it's legal and seeks to maximize company profits. OTOH companies should not give away money for purely altruistic reasons. In article <632e2f2d-5b03-4584-855d- 83a3fac196bc@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, maceface@nycmail.com says... > > > > Due to Ford's anti-family donation practices I will never purchase a > > > > FORD, ever. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > profits. OTOH companies should not give away money for purely > altruistic reasons. Sure, they can support anything they want, but they can't complain when it violates the trust of their major base of customers. There are many groups that FORD could give money too without offending it's largest customer base, unless they want to show that they don't care about that base of customers and want to bring in a new base of customers - but you would think, if they actually went that way, that they would want what is best for the company and not just some leaders ego.... SignatureLeythos - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) > Sure, they can support anything they want, but they can't complain > when it violates the trust of their major base of customers. There [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > they would want what is best for the company and not just some > leaders ego.... You think Ford's "largest customer base" is homophobics? : You think Ford's "largest customer base" is homophobics? More likely pro-NASCAR mouth-breathing knuckle-dragging cretins. "Fuller Rath" ... > : You think Ford's "largest customer base" is homophobics? > > More likely pro-NASCAR mouth-breathing knuckle-dragging cretins. Damn. Natalie > > Due to Ford's anti-family donation practices I will never purchase a FORD, ever. > > > Different subject... all the automakers are too damn PC. Unlike the good ol' days, when the pro-Hitler Henry Ford published The Dearborn Independent and ranted about The International Jew. . >>>Due to Ford's anti-family donation practices I will never purchase a FORD, ever. >> >>Different subject... all the automakers are too damn PC. > > Unlike the good ol' days, when the pro-Hitler Henry Ford published The > Dearborn Independent and ranted about The International Jew. . That was wrong too. >>Faulty part prompts Toyota to recall 15,600 Tundras > > Back atcha', troll! Posting an article that might be of interest to Toyota owners is hardly troll material. I didn't post the Ford recall article, only because others beat me to it. And at least Ford is recalling the trucks for a faulty sensor. As usual Toyota is denying there is a problem with the Tundra transmissions despite numerous complaints. Eventually the roar of the complaints will become so loud that Toyota will probably have to recall the transmissions, after issuing a blaming either the owners or suppliers (notice that Ford didn't blame either the engine supplier, Navistar, or even the manufacturer of the sensor). The "Truck That is Changing Everything" is mostly exposing Toyota problems. For this vehicle Toyota didn't debug the problems in foreign markets so America is getting a good luck at Toyota's design quality. Even Nissan did a better job of launching a "Full Size Truck" than Toyota. I am curious about one thing with regards to the new monster truck Tundras - do they make anything except Crew Max Cabs? I am seeing a good number of Tundras now, but everyone I have seen is a Crew Max. Surely there are regular cab versions. As far as I am concerned, Toyota took a decent sized truck (gen 1 Tundra) and ruined it. Ed >Posting an article that might be of interest to Toyota owners is hardly >troll material. You post every Toyota recall there is. It's your reason for posting to this group. >I didn't post the Ford recall article, only because others >beat me to it. Sure. <G> >>Posting an article that might be of interest to Toyota owners is hardly >>troll material. > > You post every Toyota recall there is. It's your reason for posting > to this group. So you aren't interest in Toyota recalls? Are you one of those Toyota owners who want to maintain the illusion of Toyota perfection? If so, you should get a job with the Toyota spin department No other manufacturer spends so much time trying to hide defects, or shift the blame to their Customers or suppliers. I would never claim Toyotas are especially bad. In fact I'd agree they are above average. They have had problems with trucks in recent years (head gaskets, ball joints, transmissions, piston slap, etc.). Ironically, I am trying to convince my Sister that she should buy a RAV4. She wants a small/midsize SUV and I think the RAV4 is the best of class vehicle and will suit her needs better than anything else. And it is likely if I bought a new pickup today, it would be a Tacoma. But I would not have any illusions that I was getting an incredibly reliable vehicle. I would expect something better than average, and nothing more. I think it gets under my skin when Toyota apologist try to claim Toyotas are incredibly reliable. Often they have not owned a recent domestic vehicle and they are comparing a new Toyota to some 20 year old beater they remember from their childhood. If I bring up how crappy Toyotas were 10 or 20 years ago, I am called a troll. I prefer to thinking of myself as a realist. Wouldn't you at least like to hear the opinions of others that might not agree that Toyotas are perfect? I believe more information is better than less. Ed "Ed White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> found these unused words: >>>Faulty part prompts Toyota to recall 15,600 Tundras >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >Ed So buym the Tacoma ... it's the -=old=- Tundra. For those not wanting BIG, the Tacoma was perfect, now there's .... ! <snipped> > I am curious about one thing with regards to the new monster truck > Tundras - do they make anything except Crew Max Cabs? I am seeing a good [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ed Here in the Chicago area, I see a lot more Double Cabs than Crew Max Cabs. The two look similar at first glance, except that the rear doors on the Crew Max are quite a bit larger than on the Double Cab. SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) > Here in the Chicago area, I see a lot more Double Cabs than Crew Max Cabs. > The two look similar at first glance, except that the rear doors on the > Crew Max are quite a bit larger than on the Double Cab. I am definitely seeing a large number of the Crewmax versions (at least for the ones I am up close to). They are easy to spot becasue they have "real" door handles on the rear doors. Probably some of the ones I see passing on the highway are double cabs and I just didn't realize it. I just don't remember seeing a single regualr cab, but I just looked at the local dealer inventory, and they do have at lease one regular cab, regular box model in stock, so they do exist. I was a little shocked at the price - with minimal options, the 4x4 version was over $30K (before the $2K rebate). On the other hand, a similar Tacoma was only $2K less. I guess the Frontier will have to last another couple of years. Ed >> Here in the Chicago area, I see a lot more Double Cabs than Crew Max >> Cabs. The two look similar at first glance, except that the rear doors on [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Ed Regular cab models are pretty scarce around here as well. Although Toyota is targeting the work truck market, I think the majority of Tundra buyers are still recreational users who travel off road or tow campers or boats and small entrepreneurs who need a truck for work and personal use. As Toyota gets the kinks out and gets pricing more competitive, we may start to see more regular cabs used for work. SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) > Faulty part prompts Toyota to recall 15,600 Tundras <snip> Nice cross-posted troll, arsehat. >> Faulty part prompts Toyota to recall 15,600 Tundras >> > <snip> > > Nice cross-posted troll, arsehat. I posted the original news article without comment. I thought it was appropriate to post the article to the generic auto group, the main Toyota group, and the Toyota Truck group. Is that a bad thing? Would you prefer to not know about an important recall? Hiding information doesn't solve problems. Myself and others posted opinions as a response to the original news article, but since newsgroups are intended for people to share ideas, opinions, and facts, this seems appropriate as well. Calling someone an "arsehat" (whatever that is) seems a silly response. As far as I know, no one is forcing you to pay attention to news articles. If you are attempting to defend Toyota, disparaging me is probably not the best way to go. Ed |
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