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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / February 2008

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David - 11 Feb 2008 14:35 GMT
I thought it woul dbe easy but I can't find any web sites which show
diagrams of the path taken by the wheels of a car when cornering.

I want diagrams to explain to a beginner how the rear wheels do not
follow the path of the front wheels.
Adrian - 11 Feb 2008 14:40 GMT
David (David <notme@mail.invalid>) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

> I thought it woul dbe easy but I can't find any web sites which show
> diagrams of the path taken by the wheels of a car when cornering.
>
> I want diagrams to explain to a beginner how the rear wheels do not
> follow the path of the front wheels.

You'll probably want to google for "Ackermann geometry"
C. E. White - 11 Feb 2008 15:23 GMT
>I thought it woul dbe easy but I can't find any web sites which show
> diagrams of the path taken by the wheels of a car when cornering.
>
> I want diagrams to explain to a beginner how the rear wheels do not
> follow the path of the front wheels.

http://www.carbibles.com/images/corneringwheels.jpg
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/steering-turning.jpg
adder1969 - 11 Feb 2008 16:57 GMT
> I thought it woul dbe easy but I can't find any web sites which show
> diagrams of the path taken by the wheels of a car when cornering.
>
> I want diagrams to explain to a beginner how the rear wheels do not
> follow the path of the front wheels.

Get a toy car and some paint....
Refinish King - 13 Feb 2008 12:12 GMT
The radius you are looking for is called: Toe out On Turns:

The formula varies by car length or wheelbase, to be more exact.

See if you can find the : Beeline web site, they should have a nice spec
sheet there, with an arc drawn through the different wheelbase lengths.

They sent me a hard copy 25 years ago, when I was doing truck frames and
alignments, and never can find it when I look through my frame manuals.

RK
PS
This is all dependant on the rear axle. being square to the frame center
lone, which then becomes the front thrust angle.
>I thought it woul dbe easy but I can't find any web sites which show
> diagrams of the path taken by the wheels of a car when cornering.
>
> I want diagrams to explain to a beginner how the rear wheels do not
> follow the path of the front wheels.
 
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