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"Life Hammer" for breaking window glass too flimsy?

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Jonathan Kamens - 03 Aug 2008 19:31 GMT
I wanted to get myself one of those gadgets they sell for breaking the
glass in a car door if you're trapped in the car, e.g., in an accident.

I searched the Web and ended up ordering this:

 http://www.5starshine.com/info-auto-emergency-tool.html

When it arrived and I opened the box, my first reaction was, "Gee,
this seems like a piece of crap."  The thing I am most concerned about
is that it is made out of what feels like rather flimsy plastic and
has no weight to it at all.

Perhaps I am confused, but I expect a hammer whose purpose is to
shatter car windows to have a little heft to it, and this thing weighs
almost nothing.  Of course, there's no practical way for us to test it,
but my gut tells me that were my wife or I to swing it at a car window,
the hammer would be more likely to break than the window.

I'm suspecting that maybe I should send it back and order either the
ResQMe:

 http://www.resqme.com/

or the "real" Life Hammer:

 http://www.lifehammer.com/

instead.  Does anybody have any advice or opinions to offer?

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Anonymous - 03 Aug 2008 20:40 GMT
>I wanted to get myself one of those gadgets they sell for breaking the
> glass in a car door if you're trapped in the car, e.g., in an accident.
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> instead.  Does anybody have any advice or opinions to offer?

Only an opinion....

Regarding the comparison between the unit received and
the subsequent keychain model; "if you don't like the unit
received, why would you think you'd like the smaller unit"?

Secondly, the unit you received(while I'm not actually hol-
ding the unit) is not meant to be "swung" at anything. The
usage for the unit is to press the pointed tip against the
glass, and then push quickly, with force, to pop the glass.

Regarding the testing, I suspect your neighbors would
probably frown on your practice on their cars left on the
street overnight<g>, you may have these options:

. A vehicle junkyard, or a vehicle glass replacement shop.

Also, you could build you own test bed using some soft
linen material, and any kind of safety glass.

If you choose to look for a junkyard/glass shop, I'd call
first to field your request(s). If they could give you many
vehicle scrap windows(or pieces), you can use those for
a testing implementation. But, don't do any glass breaking
without proper safety equipment/clothing.

Regarding the unit you purchased, does the enclosed
material(s) not include usage instructions ?.

Also, here's some other escape unit offerings if you decide
to shop further.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%2B%22automobile+escape+tool%22
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%2B%22vehicle+escape+tool%22
alabamarosethorn@yahoo.com - 03 Aug 2008 22:19 GMT
> "Jonathan Kamens" <jik@kamens.brookline.ma.us> wrote in message
> Regarding the testing, I suspect your neighbors would
> probably frown on your practice on their cars left on the
> street overnight

First of all, the only way I would test it on the neighbors cars is if
they are a.sholes.  If so, then by all means test it on them.  Also,
these gadgets are great for somebody that is having a hard time
finding work, needs money and wants to get into a car real quick and
swipe CD players or take the whole car to pay their bills.
Scott in SoCal - 04 Aug 2008 04:04 GMT
>Regarding the testing, I suspect your neighbors would
>probably frown on your practice on their cars left on the
>street overnight<g>, you may have these options:
>
>. A vehicle junkyard, or a vehicle glass replacement shop.

Some other possibilities:

An abandoned auto (with a bright orange sticker on the window).

A vehicle without a handicapped placard parked in a handicapped space.

A vehicle parked in front of a fire hydrant.

A vehicle parked in front of a driveway.

A vehicle parked in a fire lane.

Any double-parked vehicle.

A vehicle taking up more than one space in a crowded parking lot.

:)
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Rick Cooper - 04 Aug 2008 04:28 GMT
"Scott in SoCal" <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote in message >
> A vehicle without a handicapped placard parked in a handicapped space.

Very funny.  Have you noticed there are too damn many handicapped parking
spaces everywhere you go?  I always park in one to avoid having to walk a
mile.  What are the odds that 10 crippled fools will just happen to arrive
at about the same time?

> A vehicle parked in front of a fire hydrant.

The chances it will be needed are so slim that it isn't worth worrying
about.  I parked in front of one today.

> A vehicle parked in front of a driveway.

I only do this if it is in the middle of a weekday when everyone has already
left for work.

> A vehicle parked in a fire lane.

Fire lanes should be done away with.  They serve no purpose except to
generate revenue when a pig issues someone a ticket for sitting there.  None
of the fire lanes in this area even have a hydrant along them.

> Any double-parked vehicle.

I also double park to keep the doors on my Cadillac from being dinged by
some scumbag driving a 20 year old rustbucket that doesn't belong on the
road and wouldn't pass a basic safety inspection.  I've watched welfare scum
purposely park next to brand new vehicles so they can kick their doors open
into them.  If this happened to my vehicle, the filth would be sh.tting
their own teeth out for a week.

> A vehicle taking up more than one space in a crowded parking lot.

See the above.  Precisely the reason one needs to double park a valuable car
(lot is crowded with scumbags driving junk heaps).
j08776@no.com - 04 Aug 2008 23:50 GMT
>>Regarding the testing, I suspect your neighbors would
>>probably frown on your practice on their cars left on the
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>
>:)

TROLL

* PLONK *
BeaForoni - 05 Aug 2008 22:03 GMT
> In message <_Tnlk.6222$np7.2...@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com>, "Anonymous"
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Q: What's the difference between a traffic snake and a real one?
> A: The traffic snake's a.shole at the *front* end.

Sometime one should think outside the box. I am thinking plate glass
windows. Start your way with a Seven-Eleven move up to like Macy's and
then try one of the exotics like a jewlery store or pawn shop. For
extra effect one could go to one of those modern skyscrapers that are
clad in glass and see what happens to a thirty foot square section,
that would be cool.
Jonathan Kamens - 04 Aug 2008 17:53 GMT
>Regarding the comparison between the unit received and
>the subsequent keychain model; "if you don't like the unit
>received, why would you think you'd like the smaller unit"?

Note that weight, not size, is the issue.

The ResQMe has a spring-loaded center punch, so its weight is
not an issue.  The unit I bought does not -- it is designed
to be used as a hammer.

As for the "original life hammer," which is also designed to
be used as a hammer rather than having a spring-loaded center
punch, my guess is that it's probably more hefty than the one
I bought, but I don't know that for certain, which is why I
posted here asking for feedback.

>Secondly, the unit you received(while I'm not actually hol-
>ding the unit) is not meant to be "swung" at anything. The
>usage for the unit is to press the pointed tip against the
>glass, and then push quickly, with force, to pop the glass.

That's how the spring-loaded devices work, but I'm pretty sure
that's not how the hammer devices work.

>Regarding the unit you purchased, does the enclosed
>material(s) not include usage instructions ?.

No.

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Rod Speed - 03 Aug 2008 22:39 GMT
> I wanted to get myself one of those gadgets they sell for breaking the
> glass in a car door if you're trapped in the car, e.g., in an accident.

> I searched the Web and ended up ordering this:

>  http://www.5starshine.com/info-auto-emergency-tool.html

> When it arrived and I opened the box, my first reaction was,
> "Gee, this seems like a piece of crap."  The thing I am most
> concerned about is that it is made out of what feels like
> rather flimsy plastic and has no weight to it at all.

It doesnt need any weight. Its designed to fire a spring that hits the point into the glass.

Much more like an automatic center punch than a hammer.

> Perhaps I am confused,

Yes you are.

> but I expect a hammer whose purpose is to shatter car windows
> to have a little heft to it, and this thing weighs almost nothing.
> Of course, there's no practical way for us to test it,

You can test it on wrecked cars.

> but my gut tells me that were my wife or I to swing it at a car window,
> the hammer would be more likely to break than the window.

Its not meant to be swong, its internally spring loaded. Read the instructions.

> I'm suspecting that maybe I should send it back and order either the ResQMe:

>  http://www.resqme.com/

I doubt thats got any real heft either.

> or the "real" Life Hammer:

>  http://www.lifehammer.com/

> instead.

Thats certainly the sort of hammer you are looking for.

> Does anybody have any advice or opinions to offer?

I bet it works fine.
alabamarosethorn@yahoo.com - 03 Aug 2008 23:01 GMT
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in > Thats certainly the
sort of hammer you are looking for.
> I bet it works fine.

Not on laminated windows it doesn't shithead.  And nearly all newer
car windows are laminated, so prepare to drown in the canal or
wherever the f.ck you end up at.
Rod Speed - 03 Aug 2008 23:34 GMT
>> Thats certainly the sort of hammer you are looking for.

>> I bet it works fine.

> Not on laminated windows it doesn't shithead.

Fraid so, fuckwit.

> And nearly all newer car windows are laminated,

Not the side ones, fuckwit.

> so prepare to drown in the canal or wherever the f.ck you end up at.

You hardly ever end up in water, fuckwit.
balanco01@yahoo.com - 05 Aug 2008 19:57 GMT
> alabamaroseth...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> Thats certainly the sort of hammer you are looking for.
> >> I bet it works fine.
> > Not on la

Strange how a topic over a life hammer turns into a flame war. %{
Rod Speed - 05 Aug 2008 20:41 GMT
>> alabamaroseth...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Thats certainly the sort of hammer you are looking for.
>>>> I bet it works fine.
>>> Not on la

> Strange how a topic over a life hammer turns into a flame war. %{

No if you know anything about usenet, stupid.
jellybean stonerfish - 06 Aug 2008 22:25 GMT
>>> alabamaroseth...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> Thats certainly the sort of hammer you are looking for. I bet it
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>
> No if you know anything about usenet, stupid.

Time for a Nazi reference.
Tony Evans - 06 Aug 2008 23:13 GMT
"jellybean stonerfish" <stonerfish@geocities.com> wrote in message
news:fFomk.6480>                    Time for a Nazi reference.

American law enforcement is slightly less ruthless than the Gestapo.
Shawn Hirn - 04 Aug 2008 11:18 GMT
> I wanted to get myself one of those gadgets they sell for breaking the
> glass in a car door if you're trapped in the car, e.g., in an accident.
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> instead.  Does anybody have any advice or opinions to offer?

Why not just buy a regular hammer from your favorite lumber yard and
stash it under your drivers seat? A decent hammer shouldn't cost much
more than $5.
Rod Speed - 04 Aug 2008 12:00 GMT
>> I wanted to get myself one of those gadgets they sell for breaking
>> the glass in a car door if you're trapped in the car, e.g., in an
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> Why not just buy a regular hammer from your favorite lumber yard and stash
> it under your drivers seat? A decent hammer shouldn't cost much more than $5.

You've obviously never tried breaking one of the side windows with one.
Rick Cooper - 04 Aug 2008 15:46 GMT
"Shawn Hirn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message > Why not just buy a
regular hammer from your favorite lumber yard and
> stash it under your drivers seat? A decent hammer shouldn't cost much
> more than $5.

Let me guess......you graduated from a special needs school?
aemeijers - 05 Aug 2008 01:08 GMT
>> I wanted to get myself one of those gadgets they sell for breaking the
>> glass in a car door if you're trapped in the car, e.g., in an accident.
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> stash it under your drivers seat? A decent hammer shouldn't cost much
> more than $5.
Haven't bought a hammer lately, have you? But the other guy is right-
wrong tool for the job, and not much room to swing it in the car. The
self-rescue tools I have seen (but never bothered to buy) didn't even
have the spring-loaded plunger- just a shallow (but sharp)  carbide
point sticking out of a weighted plastic handle, that also had a seat
belt cutter built into it. (think giant 'safety' letter opener- blade in
a slot.) I figure the odds of remembering and being able to find a
self-rescue tool while trapped upside down under water in the dark are
pretty slim. Because of all the soldiers dying in just that fashion in
the Iraqi canals, they actually had to field-fabricate flip and dunk
trainers for the humvee crews, similar to what Navy used to used for
fighter jocks in the old days.

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me@my.com - 04 Aug 2008 23:49 GMT
Why would you spend $10 plus s&h for a piece of junk like this when
you can buy a small REAL hammer for under $5 at any store.
I guess they say you coming, and said "we got a sucker:.

>I wanted to get myself one of those gadgets they sell for breaking the
>glass in a car door if you're trapped in the car, e.g., in an accident.
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
>instead.  Does anybody have any advice or opinions to offer?
Rod Speed - 05 Aug 2008 00:28 GMT
> Why would you spend $10 plus s&h for a piece of junk like this
> when you can buy a small REAL hammer for under $5 at any store.

Just after you try breaking a side window with a small REAL hammer and fail to do that.

> I guess they say you coming, and said "we got a sucker:.

Try it yourself, and then get a VERY large towel for your face.

>> I wanted to get myself one of those gadgets they sell for breaking
>> the glass in a car door if you're trapped in the car, e.g., in an
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>>
>> instead.  Does anybody have any advice or opinions to offer?
Jonathan Kamens - 05 Aug 2008 02:34 GMT
>Why would you spend $10 plus s&h for a piece of junk like this when
>you can buy a small REAL hammer for under $5 at any store.
>I guess they say you coming, and said "we got a sucker:.

Because $5 hammers don't have seatbelt cutters built in, don't have
heads specifically designed to crack tempered glass, don't have
glow-in-the-dark components so that you can see them easily in case of
an accident (although granted you could add glow-in-the-dark tape), and
don't have mounting brackets specifically designed to allow them to be
safely mounted on the dashboard or roof of the car, where they are
easily within reach in case of an accident, and where they won't
ricochet all over the car in case of an accident.

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linh.coleman@gmail.com - 25 Aug 2008 00:06 GMT
On Aug 3, 11:31 am, j...@kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens)
wrote:
> I wanted to get myself one of those gadgets they sell for breaking the
> glass in a car door if you're trapped in the car, e.g., in an accident.
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> --
> Jews for Obama (http://www.jews4obama.com/)

I bought one at Tuesday Morning (forgort what is was called) but it's
very sturdy and probably could be used as a weapon as well (watch out
car jacker ;)
 
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