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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / October 2008

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barkeeper@unlisted.com - 02 Oct 2008 10:40 GMT
I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
use tap water when one of my customers at the bar started yelling at
me. He said I must use automotive water, and nothing else.  He was a
mechanic before he retired so I know he knows all about cars.  I went
to 3 auto parts stores, walmart, ace hardware, and target.  No one
sells it.  Where do I get it?

The Bar Keeper
Dave + Gloria - 02 Oct 2008 11:44 GMT
>I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
> it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
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>
> The Bar Keeper
Out of the tap!
L @¿@ K - 02 Oct 2008 12:34 GMT
Tap water

>I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
> it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
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>
> The Bar Keeper
Frank - 02 Oct 2008 12:38 GMT
On Oct 2, 5:40 am, barkee...@unlisted.com wrote:
> I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
> it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> The Bar Keeper

Might be better to use distilled or demineralized water but I've never
heard of either being called automotive water.
jmeehan@columbus.rr.com - 02 Oct 2008 12:47 GMT
On Oct 2, 5:40 am, barkee...@unlisted.com wrote:
> I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
> it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> The Bar Keeper

   You got to start cutting them off sooner.  I think they have had
one too many.  There is no such thing as automotive water, although if
someone gets the idea, they will be selling it next week on TV as a
dehydrated and all you need do is to add water.

   In some areas the local tap water may be bad enough that you
really should use de-mineralized or distilled water, but in most areas
it is not important.
George - 02 Oct 2008 13:23 GMT
> I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
> it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> The Bar Keeper

Your customer is behind the times. Big box has already had their
suppliers blend the expensive automotive water into the antifreeze for
your convenience. It saves so much trouble for you and you get to buy
50/50 mix at the same price as that complicated to use 100% antifreeze...

If you still want to use the complicated 100% antifreeze you can buy it
at real stores but big box is your friend and you should just buy the
premixed stuff..
N8N - 02 Oct 2008 23:33 GMT
> barkee...@unlisted.com wrote:
> > I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
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> at real stores but big box is your friend and you should just buy the
> premixed stuff..

OK, I hate to inject seriousness in an otherwise silly thread, but I
never understood the premix thing.  How the heck are you supposed to
end up with a 50/50 mix in there after a flush if you're pouring 50/50
mix into a system that is basically empty but has pure water trapped
in all the low spots - and quite a bit of it, unless you're the type
that pulls the block drains?

I always thought that the correct way to do it was as follows: after
chemically flushing, flush with clean water until water in engine
appears clean.  Drain.  Close all plugs, petcocks, etc.  Look in shop
manual, find cooling system capacity.  Fill radiator with half that
quantity of coolant.  Top off with water, drive car for a couple days,
check specific gravity of coolant in radiator to make sure you got it
right and fill as necessary.

nate
Harry K - 03 Oct 2008 04:00 GMT
> > barkee...@unlisted.com wrote:
> > > I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Seems a bit anal.  The object is to arrive at a coolant mix that will
keep it from freezing, somewhere around 50 per cent will do it in most
areas. Of course the antifreeze does also come with additives to help
keep the system cleean and corosion free.  Exact 50 percent is not
that important.

Harry K
Larry Caldwell - 05 Oct 2008 20:42 GMT
In article <10647c91-c0ac-4275-aec0-8485958ae958
@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, njnagel@hotmail.com (N8N) says...

> I always thought that the correct way to do it was as follows: after
> chemically flushing, flush with clean water until water in engine
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> check specific gravity of coolant in radiator to make sure you got it
> right and fill as necessary.

Pretty much, though there's no problem with guessing.  Pour a little of
one and then a little of the other.  You can buy a cheap hydrometer for
less than $5 that will let you fine tune the result.  

I keep a jug of distilled water around for topping off batteries.  If
the tap water leaves a calcium shell in the coffee maker, don't use it
in the radiator.

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AZ Nomad - 02 Oct 2008 16:47 GMT
>I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
>it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
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>to 3 auto parts stores, walmart, ace hardware, and target.  No one
>sells it.  Where do I get it?

From the tap.
Smitty Two - 02 Oct 2008 17:00 GMT
> I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
> it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
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>
> The Bar Keeper

Idiot. This is how you get automotive water: Tie a clear plastic bag
over your head, using a bungee cord around the neck. Make sure your cell
phone is in there with your head. Drive to the nearest lake or river,
and drive into the water.

The technical term for this is "plunging." Plunging into water is easier
if you have a bridge available, but with sufficient speed the bridge is
not necessary.

Open one window slightly to allow the car to completely fill with water
and sink to the bottom. Then call 911 using your cell phone. Wait for
the tow truck, while breathing the air in the head bag. Oh, make sure
you roll up the window.

Now, when you're towed out, the car will be full of water. Save all that
water in plastic bottles! That is automotive water, and it is the *only*
water safe for use in your radiator and battery.

Don't they teach kids any mechanical skills at all these days? Sheesh.
Helpless.
Blattus Slafaly - 02 Oct 2008 18:25 GMT
> I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
> it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
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>
> The Bar Keeper

You'll find it next to the sky hooks and the henway lubricants.

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DerbyDad03 - 02 Oct 2008 18:40 GMT
On Oct 2, 1:25 pm, Blattus Slafaly <boobooililili...@roadrunner.com>
wrote:
> barkee...@unlisted.com wrote:
> > I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
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> --
> Blattus Slafaly  ? 3     :)  7/8

What's a henway?

Oh, about 8 pounds.
z - 02 Oct 2008 22:25 GMT
> > You'll find it next to the sky hooks and the henway lubricants.
>
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>
> Oh, about 8 pounds.

well then whats a segway?
DerbyDad03 - 03 Oct 2008 03:50 GMT
>>> You'll find it next to the sky hooks and the henway lubricants.
>>> --
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>
> well then whats a segway?

I don't know, but we're making headway.
Uncle Monster - 02 Oct 2008 20:16 GMT
> I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
> it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> The Bar Keeper

Your best bet is to top off your coolant
with DHMO or Hydric acid. The pure distilled
liquid form can be obtained from any drug
store and is completely safe to use if you
practice good sense when handling it. DHMO
makes up half the coolant in vehicles that
are powered by internal combustion engines
and is a ubiquitous chemical throughout the
world and our manufacturers could not operate
without the substance. Here is a link to more
information on the chemical:

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

Be safe.

[8~{} Uncle Monster
Red Green - 03 Oct 2008 03:59 GMT
>> I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
>> it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
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>
> http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

Sounds like some good sh.t to bring to a water balloon fight.

> Be safe.
>
> [8~{} Uncle Monster
z - 02 Oct 2008 22:24 GMT
On Oct 2, 5:40 am, barkee...@unlisted.com wrote:
> I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
> it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> The Bar Keeper

probably means distilled water, but in fact that's not important for
cooling systems, it was sold for batteries. back when your batteries
would get thirsty.
Red Green - 03 Oct 2008 04:06 GMT
barkeeper@unlisted.com wrote in news:1d59e417gom3agukmljteq2nbj7h5dcdkq@
4ax.com:

> I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
> it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> The Bar Keeper

Same place you get air for your tires. You are aware what if you have say
a German car you must use German air for proper inflation & wear.
Japanese cars require Japanese air. Don't fall for that generic Nitrogen
air crap.

You see, different countries have different measurement systems. If you
fill it with US air, the gauge will read correct but since it is
measuring foreign air they will be improperly inflated. This causes the
tires to improperly wear and prematurely fail inspection.

> ... so I know he knows all about cars.

...so what did he say when you asked him were to get it?
Tony Hwang - 03 Oct 2008 04:08 GMT
> I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
> it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
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>
> The Bar Keeper
Hi,
You could just buy premixed ready to pour antifreeze.
benteaches@gmail.com - 03 Oct 2008 17:35 GMT
On Oct 2, 2:40 am, barkee...@unlisted.com wrote:
> I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
> it.  It says mix 50% antifreeze with 50% water.  I was going to just
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> The Bar Keeper

Did he send you after some headlight fluid too? Muffler bearings? 3
feet of automotive filopian tubing? A can of ring and valve?
I think your customer either sent you on a wild goose chase or is a
wetbrained idiot.
Ben
Big Al - 05 Oct 2008 17:40 GMT
> On Oct 2, 2:40 am, barkee...@unlisted.com wrote:
>> I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> wetbrained idiot.
> Ben

All the above may be true but you should use distilled water.

Al
Smitty Two - 05 Oct 2008 19:34 GMT
In article
<b4d026a7-9328-47d1-bb3f-e4120c4384a4@64g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,

> On Oct 2, 2:40 am, barkee...@unlisted.com wrote:
> > I got some antifreeze for my car and need to add automotive water to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> wetbrained idiot.
> Ben

Gosh, Ben, I'd say falling for a troll that weak makes *you* the
wetbrained idiot.
benteaches@gmail.com - 06 Oct 2008 15:32 GMT
> Gosh, Ben, I'd say falling for a troll that weak makes *you* the
> wetbrained idiot.

Could be.. I was just dying to type 'headlight fluid'
 
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