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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / General Car Topics / October 2005

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TenPercent - 28 Oct 2005 03:42 GMT
Hi, I'm having trouble deciding between two cars to buy.  

    I'm either going to purchase a new 2005 Hyundai Elantra GLS
hatchback for $14,200 OR a new 2006 Toyota Corolla
CE 4-door sedan for $15,100 (or $15,500 depending
upon the option package).

    These are solid, final prices I negotiated with both dealers
over the phone.

    People say the Toyotas are built better than the Hyundais
and most other vehicles for that matter, but the Elantra comes
with a 10-year 100,000-mile powertrain warranty.  The Corolla
comes with 5 years of powertrain.

    Which would you choose?  I plan to keep the car forever,
so trade-in value or the speed of the car's depreciation is
not a factor in the decision-making.  

    Thanks a million for any advice.
FanJet - 28 Oct 2005 03:50 GMT
> Hi, I'm having trouble deciding between two cars to buy.
>
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>
>     Thanks a million for any advice.

Checkout the Mazda3. Much better car than either of these.
Sharx35 - 28 Oct 2005 04:05 GMT
>> Hi, I'm having trouble deciding between two cars to buy.
>>
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>
> Checkout the Mazda3. Much better car than either of these.

Bull f.cking sh.t it is. Buy the Toyota. Typical DEMONrat promoting of sh.t 
cars: Mazda.
andynewhouse@yahoo.com - 28 Oct 2005 04:16 GMT
Toyota!  No contest.  If you're going to keep it forever, go with a
Japanese car.
Roger Blake - 30 Oct 2005 04:18 GMT
> Toyota!  No contest.  If you're going to keep it forever, go with a
> Japanese car.

I don't know about that. Granted, the Japanese are clever with transistors,
miniaturization, and cameras, but I don't know that I'd buy a big ticket
item like a car from them. (In general "Made in Japan" has been synonymous
with "cheap junk" about as long as I can remember.)

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Hachiroku - 30 Oct 2005 05:04 GMT
>> Toyota!  No contest.  If you're going to keep it forever, go with a
>> Japanese car.
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> item like a car from them. (In general "Made in Japan" has been synonymous
> with "cheap junk" about as long as I can remember.)

That ended on or about march 20, 1967...
Bill Jonesi - 30 Oct 2005 06:23 GMT
> >> Toyota!  No contest.  If you're going to keep it forever, go with a
> >> Japanese car.
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>
> That ended on or about march 20, 1967...

What was introduced then?
Datsun 510, Honda 350 or Sony Trinitron?
Brent Secombe - 30 Oct 2005 13:46 GMT
> >> Toyota!  No contest.  If you're going to keep it forever, go with a
> >> Japanese car.
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>
> That ended on or about march 20, 1967...

Hey, thsnk you for that date. I'd forgotten it.

When I was a boy my father brought home for me a toy xylophone. It was
Made In Occupied Japan and said so on its label. It was a good piece of
work. Its body was made of painted tinplate. One day I peered inside
and saw the litho'ed label of a can of plums. :-)

On my Made In Japan -- and so far flawless --- Prius I find no plum
labels. :-)

What I do find is good ideas skillfully implemented.

Brent
Hachiroku - 30 Oct 2005 15:33 GMT
>> >> Toyota!  No contest.  If you're going to keep it forever, go with a
>> >> Japanese car.
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>
> Brent

It has been the same with Chinese goods. The Chinese are getting better
every day.

Bet the computer you're typing away on was mostly made in China,
especially if you bought it rather than assembed it yourself, or used the
least expensive parts you can find.

They will surpass the Japanese within 5 years.
Bo Yancey - 28 Oct 2005 07:55 GMT
> Hi, I'm having trouble deciding between two cars to buy.  
>
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>
>      Thanks a million for any advice.

Toyota.
badgolferman - 28 Oct 2005 11:57 GMT
> Hi, I'm having trouble deciding between two cars to buy.  
>
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>
>      Thanks a million for any advice.

When you ask that question in a Toyota newsgroup you will get the
answer "Toyota".  If you think about it, look around you and see how
many old Toyotas there are and how many old Hyundais there are.
Hyundais may be on the way up in quality, but wouldn't you want to pay
$1000 more for proven quality and endurance for something expensive you
plan to keep for a while?

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High Tech Misfit - 28 Oct 2005 13:00 GMT
> Hi, I'm having trouble deciding between two cars to buy.  
>
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>
>      Thanks a million for any advice.

Hyundais have improved significantly in quality over the years, although
their long term reliability is uncertain.  More importantly, the Corolla
gets considerably better gas mileage than Elantra or Mazda3 (which somebody
else suggested).  So if you intend to do a lot of driving, the extra money
spent for the Corolla will be more than offset by the savings in fuel costs.
Don Fearn - 28 Oct 2005 23:42 GMT
I coulda sworn "TenPercent" <tenpercent@not-real-address.com> typ'd:

>Hi, I'm having trouble deciding between two cars to buy.  
>
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>so trade-in value or the speed of the car's depreciation is
>not a factor in the decision-making.  

No contest. Don't buy either. Buy a 2006 Scion xB. Toyota quality; LOW
price.

That's what I did when I was looking for a car in that price range,
and am I ever glad I did!

The xB is a small car on the outside and an SUV (Scion's Utility
Vehicle) on the inside, gets nearly 40 MPG, and it's the MOST fun car
I've had since that Datsun 240Z I had as a kid . . . .

-Don (wish I still had the Z, though!)
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Christopher Wong - 29 Oct 2005 20:52 GMT
> Hi, I'm having trouble deciding between two cars to buy.  
>
>      I'm either going to purchase a new 2005 Hyundai Elantra GLS
> hatchback for $14,200 OR a new 2006 Toyota Corolla
> CE 4-door sedan for $15,100 (or $15,500 depending
> upon the option package).

I think these aren't really even comparable models: you're trying to choose
between a stripped-down Corolla and a loaded Elantra. With the latter, you
get things that are either unavailable or optional on the stripper Corolla:
a more powerful engine, rear wiper, power locks, alarm/keyless entry, power
windows, heated mirrors, rear disk brakes, side air bags.

Those in the market for a stripper Corolla might want to compare to the 2006
Accent instead, which is less loaded than the Elantra. It claims to have
interior space comparable to the Corolla and has better gas mileage than the
Elantra. It also has side air bags standard unlike the Corolla, and should
be even cheaper than the Elantra.

Chris
TenPercent - 31 Oct 2005 20:02 GMT
OT:
    Slightly off-topic, but is military service compulsory in
Canada, like in some  European countries?  If yes, can you tell
us how many years of service is required, etc?  Thanks.
 
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