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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Camaro / April 2006

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high revs needed to trigger alternator

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Bram Stolk - 01 Apr 2006 16:58 GMT
Hi there,

When I start the engine of my 75 camaro, I can see on my amp
meter that when started, the battery keeps discharging.
The alternator is spinning, and the belt is OK.
Also I notice slow windshield wipers, and slow electric windows.

Only after I rev the engine up to high revs, the charging
circuit suddenly kicks in. After that, the battery is
being recharged, also at low revs.

I cleaned the contacts on the alternator, and the alternator
is only 2 years old or so.
Should it be replaced? Can it be refurbished?

thx,

  Bram Stolk
Cy Welch - 01 Apr 2006 19:53 GMT
> Hi there,
>
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>
>   Bram Stolk
This sounds like it might be a bad regulator in the alternator (I
believe they are internal in that year).  You can get just the regulator
and replace it if you have good mechanical skills, or just replace the
alternator.  I know they normally last longer than 2 years, but I have
seen them last less than a year as well.

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Bram Stolk - 02 Apr 2006 17:18 GMT
> This sounds like it might be a bad regulator in the alternator (I
> believe they are internal in that year).  You can get just the regulator
> and replace it if you have good mechanical skills, or just replace the
> alternator.  I know they normally last longer than 2 years, but I have
> seen them last less than a year as well.

Hmm... are you sure about the "good mechanical skills" part?
I opened it up, and I think that it can only be put together again
in the factory. It has a very tricky system of contacts on a spring,
pushing against the axle. I dont think you can refit the axle with
the contacts in the proper place.

I'll just have to buy a new one then.
It is a 3 wire Delco, 15 amps alternator, btw.
The 15 amps surprised me, as the year-one replacements are
something like 200 amps? Sounds like overkill to me.

  Bram
The ÇLøne - 02 Apr 2006 19:48 GMT
axle = armature ... contact = the brushs/holder is my guess .. use a
toothpick to hold the brush's in place when reassembling the alternator
, it's then pulled out when it's back together  .. there's a small whole
in the alt. case , and brush holder for just this purpose ... be sure to
clean up the copper surface that the brush's ride on ( commutator ) ...
you can get a brush set for about 5 bucks .... and a 15 amp alt ¿ ..
never heard of such a thing ... 35-40 be more like it .. if you go the
rebuilt route for about 5 buck's more you can get a 60 amp alt. ... 200
amp is somthing you'd be likely to find in an ambulance or some other
severe duty application , not needed to say the least
Bram Stolk - 04 Apr 2006 15:12 GMT
> axle = armature ... contact = the brushs/holder is my guess .. use a
> toothpick to hold the brush's in place when reassembling the alternator
> , it's then pulled out when it's back together  .. there's a small whole
> in the alt. case , and brush holder for just this purpose ... be sure to

Ah!!!!

> clean up the copper surface that the brush's ride on ( commutator ) ...
> you can get a brush set for about 5 bucks .... and a 15 amp alt ¿ ..
> never heard of such a thing ... 35-40 be more like it .. if you go the

Yeah.. the shop told me that the 15 amps couldnt be right either.
There was a 15A stamped on the casing... I guess it may be a model
nr instead.

> rebuilt route for about 5 buck's more you can get a 60 amp alt. ... 200
> amp is somthing you'd be likely to find in an ambulance or some other
> severe duty application , not needed to say the least

Well, I got a brand new one, with a little more juice. 70 amps or so.
It set me back 166 euros, but what the heck... I'm glad to be driving
again. That rumbling free-flowing V8 sounds so sweet, especially when
you haven't heard her for a couple of days.

  Bram
Big Al - 01 Apr 2006 20:28 GMT
> Hi there,
>
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>
>    Bram Stolk

Do you have a "one wire" alternator? If not, did the car originally have an
alternator lamp in the dash?

Al
Gary - KQ6RT - 02 Apr 2006 01:59 GMT
> Do you have a "one wire" alternator? If not, did the car originally have
> an
> alternator lamp in the dash?
>
> Al

That was the first thing I thought of. I have a one wire alternator on my
pickup and it works the same way. It's not really a problem once you
understand how it works.

Gary
 
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