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2000 Camaro SS user report

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tar~bal - 27 Mar 2008 19:20 GMT
I bought my car new in 1999.  It now has about 105,000 miles on it and I
wanted to see if the issues I've had with it compare to anyone elses:

-Transmission shot around 80k (automatic)
-Rear end died around 70k
-Two water pumps
-Driver visor
-Small tears in driver seat, none in passenger
-Rear window in convertible top leaks (repaired)
-3 speaker failures (1 under warranty)
-Driver seatbelt, plastic belt retainer broken
-Light covers cloudy
-Ash tray plastic lid broken
-Crack in center convertible boot mysteriously appeared
-Worn carpet around accelerator pedal

It seems like a lot of stuff, but for 105k?  About right?
speedracer7291@gmail.com - 28 Mar 2008 18:44 GMT
> I bought my car new in 1999.  It now has about 105,000 miles on it and I
> wanted to see if the issues I've had with it compare to anyone elses:
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>
> It seems like a lot of stuff, but for 105k?  About right?

Hate to say it but that is why Toyota and Honda are selling cars as
fast as they can make them and gm ford and dodge wait for Hertz rental
car company to buy all the leftovers. They just don't last. They use
cheap parts and they are never going to change. My last Honda accord
ok its slow but I beat the hell out of it was a 96 180,000 miles on it
and traded it in still got 3k for it and it ran well. Original auto od
trans/engine only replaced a timing belt/water pump as maint. spark
plugs oil changes and only changed the front brakes twice. Never had
any of the issues you had. Yes I have seen many camaros withthe exact
same issues you mentioned and gm won't change a thing. Best bet buy a
camaro already beat up cheap and fix it the way you like it. Buy a
good heavy duty race trans from a local builder same for the motor/
rear and it will last longer if you go new then better off leasing it
and dump the car as soon as the warranty runs out. those cars will
cost you $$ after 40k-80k miles. After that they get cheap.
Anthony Fremont - 29 Mar 2008 00:13 GMT
> I bought my car new in 1999.  It now has about 105,000 miles on it
> and I wanted to see if the issues I've had with it compare to anyone
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> It seems like a lot of stuff, but for 105k?  About right?

For someone that gearheads their car all the time.  Does that sound like
you?  That's a powerful motor (like you hadn't noticed) and it's obviously
capable of breaking the transmission and rearend.  OTOH, it's not something
that occurs from driving your car like an old lady.  I'm guessing you're
trying to take another tenth off everyplace you go.  You killed the water
pumps from overrevving it; that'd be my best guess.  No complaints about
tire life?  Speakers don't fail like that under normal listening conditions,
as in less than jack-hammer volume levels.  Although it's probably tough
hearing the radio at 150MPH with the top down.
tar~bal - 01 Apr 2008 14:35 GMT
>> I bought my car new in 1999.  It now has about 105,000 miles on it
>> and I wanted to see if the issues I've had with it compare to anyone
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> something that occurs from driving your car like an old lady.  I'm
> guessing you're trying to take another tenth off everyplace you go.

I would run it, but I wasn't abusive.  I'm thinking that the trans and
rearend should be matched to the engine from the factory.

You killed the water
> pumps from overrevving it; that'd be my best guess.  No complaints about

How could I overrev it?  First, it's an automatic, and I don't shift, I let
the trans do it.  Second, the computer rev-limits the car anyway.  Again,
the engine is stock for the most part, the components that failed did so
because of design in my eyes.

> tire life?  Speakers don't fail like that under normal listening
> conditions, as in less than jack-hammer volume levels.  Although it's
> probably tough hearing the radio at 150MPH with the top down.

First the car is speed limited at 130 MPH (I tested it once), and I
primarily listen to talk radio.  I guess that could be hard on the speakers,
too.  But again, shouldn't the speakers be matched to the sound system?

I really don't think that I took my car to any extremes, I just find it odd
that it had the problems it did.  A lot of the major issues seem to be in
engineering and not in the use.
jayy68@gmail.com - 30 Mar 2008 06:11 GMT
> I bought my car new in 1999.  It now has about 105,000 miles on it and I
> wanted to see if the issues I've had with it compare to anyone elses:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> It seems like a lot of stuff, but for 105k?  About right?

i had a 2002 maro... 3.8L v-6  ...my rear diff always leaked.  i
finally had it redone at 35kmi.  it ran better but it was really
lacking traction.  i'd suggest a limited slip rear diff. for the rear
end.  eaton will be niice. i wanted to do that 4 mine. it was a biatch
to handle in the wet weather. my rear end died at 35kmi and under
warranty.  it toook three trips to the shop to repair.  i fired the
dealer repair shop i bought it from and went to a dealer i trust.
good decision.

if the timing chain has not been replaced, REPLaCE IT, before the
valves get beaten from old age. it should be done at 80kmi. esp if
used with enthusiatic rpms.

i've put on mb quart speakers... they rock!

a tranny suppose to last the life of 150kmi + , even in hard
driving !!! was the tranny fluid changed regularly???  i've done
burnouts and still had a good shifting automatic coz i changed the ATF
every 25kmi.

every 5 years, i would flush the coolant and change all coolant hoses.

tip: u might wanna change the sparkplugs NOW.  i hope the previous
owner turned them at 40kmi. if not they could fuse onto the heads!!!
esp if antiseize compound was not used.

use lanolin leather conditioner on plastic interior to keep it nice.

chevys are great,  mine died coz it hit a wall in the rain after a
hard spinout.   if just kept it home that day, it would be at that
much miles right now.  (;
happy motoring...
jayy
tar~bal - 01 Apr 2008 14:37 GMT
On Mar 27, 11:20 am, "tar~bal" <b...@wheeze.net> wrote:
> I bought my car new in 1999. It now has about 105,000 miles on it and I
> wanted to see if the issues I've had with it compare to anyone elses:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> It seems like a lot of stuff, but for 105k? About right?

i had a 2002 maro... 3.8L v-6  ...my rear diff always leaked.  i
finally had it redone at 35kmi.  it ran better but it was really
lacking traction.  i'd suggest a limited slip rear diff. for the rear
end.  eaton will be niice. i wanted to do that 4 mine. it was a biatch
to handle in the wet weather. my rear end died at 35kmi and under
warranty.  it toook three trips to the shop to repair.  i fired the
dealer repair shop i bought it from and went to a dealer i trust.
good decision.

if the timing chain has not been replaced, REPLaCE IT, before the
valves get beaten from old age. it should be done at 80kmi. esp if
used with enthusiatic rpms.

i've put on mb quart speakers... they rock!

a tranny suppose to last the life of 150kmi + , even in hard
driving !!! was the tranny fluid changed regularly???  i've done
burnouts and still had a good shifting automatic coz i changed the ATF
every 25kmi.

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Yep, that wasn't the problem.  I've maintained it beyond what is called for.
================
every 5 years, i would flush the coolant and change all coolant hoses.

tip: u might wanna change the sparkplugs NOW.  i hope the previous
owner turned them at 40kmi. if not they could fuse onto the heads!!!
esp if antiseize compound was not used.
===========
They were changed around 55.  I've owned the car since new.
============
use lanolin leather conditioner on plastic interior to keep it nice.

chevys are great,  mine died coz it hit a wall in the rain after a
hard spinout.   if just kept it home that day, it would be at that
much miles right now.  (;
happy motoring...
jayy
ray - 02 Apr 2008 03:34 GMT
> I bought my car new in 1999.  It now has about 105,000 miles on it and I
> wanted to see if the issues I've had with it compare to anyone elses:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> It seems like a lot of stuff, but for 105k?  About right?

wow.
2001 Trans Am.  New in 01, only about 35,000 miles (long winters up here.)
-one headlight (bulb not the motor)
-clutch pedal return spring
-passenger side power window regulator
-the stock tires barely made it to 23,000 miles.
-stock clutch smoked

I should mention the car has nitrous, 60+ passes at the strip, multiple
road trips, three burnout contests, and I generally beat the living tar
out of it, but it gets the oil changed every three months, and a full
going over on a regular basis.

I'm on the stock rear end, and launch at 5 grand with drag radials,
people keep expecting it to grenade.  It probably will once I get the
new clutch in this year...

Ray
jayy68@gmail.com - 03 Apr 2008 07:26 GMT
> I bought my car new in 1999.  It now has about 105,000 miles on it and I
> wanted to see if the issues I've had with it compare to anyone elses:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> It seems like a lot of stuff, but for 105k?  About right?

hmm... i guess it is about right... except for the tranny.  also,
there are cases where gm does not get the tranny right.  like my 86
lesabre.

i've never liked standard speakers... they never are any good for
anything!  poor bass and muddled treble.

btw my camaro had 64k miles on it.

what do you think of the 09 camaro?  i'm about ready to go for an 2010
prodn year. (=
tar~bal - 03 Apr 2008 18:30 GMT
On Mar 27, 11:20 am, "tar~bal" <b...@wheeze.net> wrote:
> I bought my car new in 1999. It now has about 105,000 miles on it and I
> wanted to see if the issues I've had with it compare to anyone elses:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> It seems like a lot of stuff, but for 105k? About right?

hmm... i guess it is about right... except for the tranny.  also,
there are cases where gm does not get the tranny right.  like my 86
lesabre.

i've never liked standard speakers... they never are any good for
anything!  poor bass and muddled treble.

btw my camaro had 64k miles on it.

what do you think of the 09 camaro?  i'm about ready to go for an 2010
prodn year. (=

===

Looks good, as does the Challenger that will beat it to the market.  The
Challenger is debuting at about 40K, which is a little steep for a car
that's getting 13mpg (I know, it shouldn't be a factor, but gas is
expensive).  As far as I know, there's no MSRP on the Camaro yet, but I'm
thinking the SS will likely be right about there as well.  I think I'll hold
out for the rag top of either car.  (wishful thinking)

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