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2010 Camaro is JUNK? 68 point checklist BEFORE buying - WTH?

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JLA - 23 Jul 2009 21:07 GMT
Some Camaro fans have put together a list of owner-submitted things t
watch out for with the new Camaro. It seems that about every ever
other Camaro that rolls off the line is a bucket of fail. But if yo
are set on having a first year production Chevy Camaro you shoul
inspect the vehicle very carefully before leaving the dealership

This list is mainly a checklist for things wrong that a dealer ca
immediately fix. A broken transmission or bad drive-shaft fro
dropping the hammer on this beast is something that they won't kno
until it actually happens.

001. Loose Bolts that hold fluid back causing leaks (ex: on oil pan
tranny fluid
002. Trunk Locking mechanism (issues with opening w/o adding dow
pressure to top of trunk first and/or emergency release appears to b
loose keeping the trunk from locking properly
003. Loose plastic paneling around the 4-gauges cluster, launc
control, cigarette power plug as well as Left and Right A-Pillar
Trim Loose, sill trim loose, and dash pannel where doors and das
meet popping open
004. Loose Spoiler/installed correctly (Re-torque Spoiler bolts
005. Wiper transmission cable overheating from engine causing a shor
circuit
006. Matching Headlight Halos strength. (one defective being dimme
then the other)
007. Mismatched paint on parts of the vehicle (including gas door). A
well as paint runs or clear coat runs. Paint Chips
008. Loose Rocker Panel "Chevrolet" causing it to peel off
009. Minor Problem With Window Indexing
010. Ambient Lighting on doors defective
011. Bad radiator (leaks)
012. Hood release/latch issues (won't unhook to open the hood)
013. Gap at base of ONStar Antenna
014. Battery cable routing near the starter has been done
015. Digital Speedometer is off. Also keeps going on and off
016. Bottom pulley shakes and needs replacement per dealer
017. Broken tranny
018. Ignition Mechanism Issue with key getting stuck in car
019. Non RS taillights installed on RS equipped cars (all 4 of them)
020. Rocker Panel aligned with body and clipped in correctly
021. Bumper rubs with bod
022. Trunk opens with switch and remot
023. Correct speedo/tach gauge ring colo
023. Ambient lighting on drivers door as bright as passenger doo
024. Doors gaps /alignmen
025. Dirt/bubbles in rally stripe
026. Door panel not scratched from seat belt
027. Shift knobs wearing out extremely fast could be faulty materia
028. AC system stops blowing cold air in random durations, most likel
blockage in AC drainage and/or AC draining into the car instead o
beneath i
029. Clunking noise in changing gear
030. Trunk opens with remote and laser cut ke
031. USB drive and aux port work
032. Squeaky Break
033. GFX installed correctl
034. Rims and tires in good condition (coming off carrier in ba
condition/damaged
035. Check for damage in the interior, basic procedur
036. Check the locking mechanism of both door
037. Scraping sound for a second when backing u
038. SS emblem on trunk is loos
039. Loose interior windshield trim loos
040. The front GFX lip is not coming loose at the double sided tap
041. The front passenger brake rotors are not wearing with a dar
colored groov
042. Hood latch handle on inside of cab doesn't retract properly (jus
hangs
043. Scratches in seat
044. Oil cooler leakin
045. Once in every 10-15 times I unlock the car, the drivers side doo
is still locked, whil
the locking knob on the door is in the "up" positio
046. Faulty as gauge (improper readings
047. Missing paint around the headlight
048. Bleed screw on clutch slave cylinder loos
049. Stickers on rockers peeli
050. Scratches on window pillar
051. Misaligned body & door panels as well as hood not centere
properly (more to one side then the other
052. Alignment of doors to dash interior the door interior seems t
sag below the dash interio
053. Drivers side roof light( the one with the toggle switch) onl
works when its toggled over to the passenger sid
054. Door sill decals peeling u
055. Paint swirls in driver/passenger doo
056. Drive-shaft connection to the differential cracking when droppin
the clutch
057. Tach Needle Sticking
058. Wiper motor wiring comes through bottom of the cowling-well in
front of the driver. (The fix (decided upon between the dealer and
myself) was to re-insulate the wires, cover the harness with a hard,
slick plastic covering, drill a small hole in the bottom of the
cowling-well (fill the hole with silicone) and use a cable tie down
like the rest of the wiper harness uses to secure the harness to the
floor of the cowling (the grommet will collapse downward with little
force), far away from harm from the wiper arms.)
059. engine makes continuous clicking noise, starting roughly 5
seconds after engine starts
060. Door Sill plates wrinkled on outside edges (both sides)
061. Trunk gasket at bottom of rear window coming off
062. Uneven Dash (driver's side dash is lower then passenger's side)
063. Passenger/Driver's side Fender alignment off. (wheel cover well
had to come off, then loosen fender bolt, and it pops right in
place)
064. Key won't stay in folded position
065. Faulty Tail lights.
066. Weather stripping at back of rear windows loose (I can literally
grab and peel it back).
067. Missing or peeling paint between trunk lid and spoiler (right
rear section)-could possibly spread over time down the trunk lid.
068. Driver's seat makes clicking noises when set all the way back.

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John S. - 24 Jul 2009 13:51 GMT
On Jul 23, 8:07 pm, i...@jlaenterprises-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (JLA)
wrote:
> Some Camaro fans have put together a list of owner-submitted things to
> watch out for with the new Camaro. It seems that about every every
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>
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Some of these are definitely not factory related!

025. Dirt/bubbles in rally stripes - Most like an issue with the
dealer installed stripes.

These 2 are from the dealership improperly prepping the vehicle!  Walk
through ANY BRAND dealership and i bet you find swirls!

050. Scratches on window pillars
055. Paint swirls in driver/passenger door

064. Key won't stay in folded position - OMG...

The only issue I've seen is:  025. Dirt/bubbles in rally stripes - 2
minute fix...

Love my new Camaro!!!
Pocono - 27 Jul 2009 00:56 GMT
> On Jul 23, 8:07 pm, i...@jlaenterprises-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (JLA)
> wrote:
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I cant wait to get one!!  Love the new design!  GO GM !!!

Brian
Badda Bing Badda Boom - 27 Sep 2009 19:07 GMT
WOW! That is a LONG list.

This looks just like the kind of automobile manufacturing quality you'd
expect to buy from a company that is owned by two governments and labor
unions.

What did "new" 2010 Camaro owners expect?

It's only going to get worse.

"JLA" <info@jlaenterprises-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
> Some Camaro fans have put together a list of owner-submitted things to
> watch out for with the new Camaro. It seems that about every every
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> View the attachments for this post at:
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=22625629#22625629
JLA - 01 Oct 2009 02:21 GMT
> JLA wrote
> Some Camaro fans have put together a list of owner-submitted thing
to watch out for with the new Camaro. It seems that about every ever
other Camaro that rolls off the line is a bucket of fail. But if yo
are set on having a first year production Chevy Camaro you shoul
inspect the vehicle very carefully before leaving the dealership

> This list is mainly a checklist for things wrong that a dealer ca
immediately fix. A broken transmission or bad drive-shaft fro
dropping the hammer on this beast is something that they won't kno
until it actually happens.

> 001. Loose Bolts that hold fluid back causing leaks (ex: on oi
pan, tranny fluid
> 002. Trunk Locking mechanism (issues with opening w/o adding dow
pressure to top of trunk first and/or emergency release appears to b
loose keeping the trunk from locking properly
> 003. Loose plastic paneling around the 4-gauges cluster, launc
control, cigarette power plug as well as Left and Right A-Pillar
Trim Loose, sill trim loose, and dash pannel where doors and das
meet popping open
> 004. Loose Spoiler/installed correctly (Re-torque Spoiler bolts
> 005. Wiper transmission cable overheating from engine causing
short circuit
> 006. Matching Headlight Halos strength. (one defective being dimme
then the other)
> 007. Mismatched paint on parts of the vehicle (including gas door)
As well as paint runs or clear coat runs. Paint Chips
> 008. Loose Rocker Panel "Chevrolet" causing it to pee
off
> 009. Minor Problem With Window Indexing
> 010. Ambient Lighting on doors defective
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> 018. Ignition Mechanism Issue with key getting stuck in car
> 019. Non RS taillights installed on RS equipped cars (all 4 o
them)
> 020. Rocker Panel aligned with body and clipped in correctly
> 021. Bumper rubs with bod
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> 026. Door panel not scratched from seat belt
> 027. Shift knobs wearing out extremely fast could be fault
materia
> 028. AC system stops blowing cold air in random durations, mos
likely blockage in AC drainage and/or AC draining into the ca
instead of beneath i
> 029. Clunking noise in changing gear
> 030. Trunk opens with remote and laser cut ke
> 031. USB drive and aux port work
> 032. Squeaky Break
> 033. GFX installed correctl
> 034. Rims and tires in good condition (coming off carrier in ba
condition/damaged
> 035. Check for damage in the interior, basic procedur
> 036. Check the locking mechanism of both door
> 037. Scraping sound for a second when backing u
> 038. SS emblem on trunk is loos
> 039. Loose interior windshield trim loos
> 040. The front GFX lip is not coming loose at the double side
tap
> 041. The front passenger brake rotors are not wearing with a dar
colored groov
> 042. Hood latch handle on inside of cab doesn't retract properl
(just hangs
> 043. Scratches in seat
> 044. Oil cooler leakin
> 045. Once in every 10-15 times I unlock the car, the drivers sid
door is still locked, whil
> the locking knob on the door is in the "up" positio
> 046. Faulty as gauge (improper readings
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> 050. Scratches on window pillar
> 051. Misaligned body & door panels as well as hood not centere
properly (more to one side then the other
> 052. Alignment of doors to dash interior the door interior seems t
sag below the dash interio
> 053. Drivers side roof light( the one with the toggle switch) onl
works when its toggled over to the passenger side
> 054. Door sill decals peeling up
> 055. Paint swirls in driver/passenger door
> 056. Drive-shaft connection to the differential cracking when
dropping the clutch
> 057. Tach Needle Sticking
> 058. Wiper motor wiring comes through bottom of the cowling-well in
front of the driver. (The fix (decided upon between the dealer and
myself) was to re-insulate the wires, cover the harness with a hard,
slick plastic covering, drill a small hole in the bottom of the
cowling-well (fill the hole with silicone) and use a cable tie down
like the rest of the wiper harness uses to secure the harness to the
floor of the cowling (the grommet will collapse downward with little
force), far away from harm from the wiper arms.)
> 059. engine makes continuous clicking noise, starting roughly 5
seconds after engine starts
> 060. Door Sill plates wrinkled on outside edges (both sides)
> 061. Trunk gasket at bottom of rear window coming off
> 062. Uneven Dash (driver's side dash is lower then passenger's
side)
> 063. Passenger/Driver's side Fender alignment off. (wheel cover
well had to come off, then loosen fender bolt, and it pops right in
place)
> 064. Key won't stay in folded position
> 065. Faulty Tail lights.
> 066. Weather stripping at back of rear windows loose (I can
literally grab and peel it back).
> 067. Missing or peeling paint between trunk lid and spoiler (right
rear section)-could possibly spread over time down the trunk lid.
> 068. Driver's seat makes clicking noises when set all the way
back.

Owners of the 2010 Chevy Camaro may want to swing by
their local dealer between stop light drags. General Motors has
issued a service bulletin for its reborn pony cars that affects three
issues that may become problems for some owners. The first issue
involves reprogramming the HVAC module, which will reportedly prevent
HVAC evaporator freeze-up after long highway drives. The second issue
involves tightening the nuts that affix the rear spoiler to the trunk
lid, but only applies to vehicles with VIN numbers A9126194 or lower.
The third and final issue involves inspecting the engine harness of
all V8-equipped models to ensure that the heater hose clamps aren't
touching the harness bracket.

It should be noted that this is not a recall, just a service bulletin
and Camaro owners are encouraged to have these items addressed the
next time they visit a dealer for service.

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