Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Camaro / May 2004
Resprayed or not?
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Jimmy - 21 Apr 2004 18:34 GMT I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it came from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice the overspray in the whel wells as well). Check the pictures for yourself, but while this car looks good, I think the claims of no leaks and never been repainted are dubious! What do you folks think?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2474401692
ray - 21 Apr 2004 19:03 GMT > I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it came > from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2474401692 well, for sure the rear drums have been painted - I have yet to see any car come stick with painted brake drums.
It's a nice looking car, but I dunno...
my 01 TA has some overspray on the undercarriage - but the front wheel wells are plastic liners so I can't tell you if the wheelwell overspray is stock. And why do the tierods/front end look so greasy or something?
Ray
Charles Bendig - 21 Apr 2004 19:18 GMT > I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it came > from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice the > overspray in the whel wells as well). Check the pictures for yourself, > but while this car looks good, I think the claims of no leaks and > never been repainted are dubious! What do you folks think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2474401692
The over spray on the fornt uni-body is correct. The over spray in the rear is correct for a converted car.
Something you are not taking in to account. Final paint was not done at the factory. The Car had final paint done by the converter. ASC, who may have repainted the entire car. The brakes being painted body color may have been a ASC option.
Really a car like this requires resurch of the Conveter who did it. To find out what they did and did not do. What over spray to expect, ect. Charles
Jimmy - 22 Apr 2004 15:00 GMT Meant to say thanks, Charles. Got sidetracked.
I totally forgot about ASC doing the conversions because the 4th Gens were done inhouse by GM at St. Therese IIRC (correct?), and I forget after 1 year, nevermind 12! And I didn't know the final paint was done out of GM's hands as well. Good history there.
I doubt my buddy would go for anything that steep pricewise to begin with. He picked up a '98 Z-28 MN6 a few years back for 13,800 which he loves but he still wants that 80's 3rd gen he had as a kid (same reason I keep my mustang...if I can afford it I'll keep it..even though it's MUCH slower than my camaro) He had a 91 a few years back but sold it and picked up his LS1 camaro after hearing how happy I was with mine. Bottom line is that he now has the room and is looking for a project. I suggested a fisrt gen but it's the 3rd that he wants.
Jimmy
> The over spray on the fornt uni-body is correct. The over spray in the > rear is correct for a converted car. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > find out what they did and did not do. What over spray to expect, ect. > Charles FBR - 21 Apr 2004 21:01 GMT > I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it came > from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice the > overspray in the whel wells as well). Check the pictures for yourself, > but while this car looks good, I think the claims of no leaks and > never been repainted are dubious! What do you folks think? I think this is a thinly disguised way to cross-post an Ebay auction ad.
S.S.I.N. - 21 Apr 2004 22:14 GMT "FBR"
> I think this is a thinly disguised way to cross-post an Ebay auction ad. as do I.
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Jimmy - 22 Apr 2004 01:07 GMT Nope. Check My posting history. No secret.
A friend and I thought this was a clipped car trying to be passed off as cherry. Charles Bendig had some good pointsa though. I did NOT take into accout the converter....
The front end grease though makes me think the auctioner is lying about no leaks. And when we saw the overspray I was almost sure it was clipped (taking two wrecks and making one good car). Just posted here asking what you guys thought.
Jimmy
> > I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it came > > from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I think this is a thinly disguised way to cross-post an Ebay auction ad. FBR - 22 Apr 2004 01:26 GMT > Nope. Check My posting history. No secret. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> I think this is a thinly disguised way to cross-post an Ebay auction >> ad. Here's the header from the original post;
Path: twister.rdc-kc.rr.com!cyclone.kc.rr.com!news-west.rr.com!news.rr.com!newshos ting.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!news.glorb.com!postnews1.google.com!not- for-mail From: jimsfastls1@yahoo.com (Jimmy) Newsgroups: alt.autos.camaro,alt.autos.camaro.firebird Subject: Resprayed or not? Date: 21 Apr 2004 10:34:40 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 7 Message-ID: <c1d3fe3c.0404210934.62263e09@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.68.134.174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1082568880 19810 127.0.0.1 (21 Apr 2004 17:34:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:34:40 +0000 (UTC) Xref: cyclone.kc.rr.com alt.autos.camaro:34659 alt.autos.camaro.firebird:139361
Here's the header from your last post;
Path: twister.rdc-kc.rr.com!cyclone.kc.rr.com!diablo.voicenet.com!167.206.3.103.MI SMATCH!news3.optonline.net!news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Jimmy" <jimsfastls1@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: alt.autos.camaro,alt.autos.camaro.firebird References: <c1d3fe3c.0404210934.62263e09@posting.google.com> <JqAhc.3201$kk7.2625@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Resprayed or not? Lines: 26 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Message-ID: <G0Ehc.89450$_g4.19124669@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 00:07:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.119.200.168 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cv.net X-Trace: news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net 1082592422 69.119.200.168 (Wed, 21 Apr 2004 20:07:02 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 20:07:02 EDT Organization: Optimum Online Xref: cyclone.kc.rr.com alt.autos.camaro:34666 alt.autos.camaro.firebird:139367
Either you change posting hosts quite a bit or you are forging headers. This is a favorite tactic of spammers. 90% of the posts listed by Google Groups show jimsfastls1@yahoo.com as posting to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang, or alt.games.wolfenstein . Looking through my archive of alt.autos.camaro.firebird which goes back to January I don't see you. I'f I am wrong I apologize.
But I am pretty sure I'm not wrong.
Jimmy - 22 Apr 2004 01:38 GMT You need to learn more about the internet. I'm not forging headers. I'm not that good.
But, hey. Believe what you want.
Like I said...look at my posting history.
Jimmy
> > Nope. Check My posting history. No secret. > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Path: twister.rdc-kc.rr.com!cyclone.kc.rr.com!news-west.rr.com!news.rr.com!newshos
ting.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!news.glorb.com!postnews1.google.com!not-
> for-mail > From: jimsfastls1@yahoo.com (Jimmy) [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Path: twister.rdc-kc.rr.com!cyclone.kc.rr.com!diablo.voicenet.com!167.206.3.103.MI
> SMATCH!news3.optonline.net!news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net.POSTED!not-for-mail > From: "Jimmy" <jimsfastls1@yahoo.com> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > But I am pretty sure I'm not wrong. FBR - 22 Apr 2004 01:46 GMT > You need to learn more about the internet. I'm not forging headers. > I'm not that good. > > But, hey. Believe what you want. > > Like I said...look at my posting history. I did.
Jimmy - 22 Apr 2004 01:59 GMT So enough said. Apology accepted.
Jimmy
> > You need to learn more about the internet. I'm not forging headers. > > I'm not that good. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I did. Charles Bendig - 22 Apr 2004 03:35 GMT > > I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it came > > from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I think this is a thinly disguised way to cross-post an Ebay auction ad. That thought crossed my mind. But who would post a link to an ebay item to generate interest in it, then ask us to nit pick the item listed?
I list a few items on Ebay (I have yet to put any F-body parts on there), I wouldn't post a link to an item and ask people to nit pick it. Charles
FBR - 22 Apr 2004 04:49 GMT >>> I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it >>> came from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > there), I wouldn't post a link to an item and ask people to nit > pick it. Charles Ebay items aren't supposed to be advertised by crossposting spam in usenet groups. PERIOD. Since many posters have been reported, many w.nkers have resorted to this type of post/crosspost. Look up his posting history as he asks, and look at the headers of his first, and rebuttal posts. Methinks he protests too much for being honest.
To save honest folk a problem how about a way to do this fairly. No crossposting, if a pic is in question, then host it and post it yourself. No Ebay link. That would keep any question of spamming at bay. BTW, if you "suddenly" appear with an Ebay post to look at, and it is crossposted, and you have no posting history with a group, then what should be thought? And on top of that, the crossposter in question changes posting hosts more often than a $5 whore on Saturday night changes panties.
Next Ebay post in question gets LARTED. Simple as that.
Jimmy - 22 Apr 2004 14:43 GMT > BTW, if you > "suddenly" appear with an Ebay post to look at, and it is crossposted, and > you have no posting history with a group, then what should be thought? And > on top of that, the crossposter in question changes posting hosts more often > than a $5 whore on Saturday night changes panties. Huh?
1)I've never bought or sold ANYTHING on ebay. Ever.
2)What do you care where I post from? I don't misrepresent myself. I never have.
2)No posting history here?
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=jimsfastls1&meta=g roup%3Dalt.autos.camaro.*
3)It was a question about a camaro. My friend and I thought it was being misrepresented. Should I ask in r.a.m.f.m? Perhaps alt.game.wolfenstien? The chrysler newsgroup I've posted to before? Or does it make more sense to post here? I mean maybe I'm misunderstanding something but I though these were camaro newsgroups. I live in the Bronx. The plates on that car IIRC are from Michigan. I don't know anybody in Michigan.
Do you think EVERYONE that doesn't regulary post here is a freakin spammer?
Jimmy
ray - 23 Apr 2004 19:59 GMT > you have no posting history with a group, then what should be thought? And > on top of that, the crossposter in question changes posting hosts more often > than a $5 whore on Saturday night changes panties. I would appear to switch posting hosts a lot... a machine at home, a machine at work...
Bill Hall - 24 Apr 2004 06:01 GMT > > you have no posting history with a group, then what should be thought? And > > on top of that, the crossposter in question changes posting hosts more often > > than a $5 whore on Saturday night changes panties. > > I would appear to switch posting hosts a lot... a machine at home, a > machine at work... Playing at work.....? Naughty, naughty!! (VBG)
Ray - 25 Apr 2004 19:27 GMT >>>you have no posting history with a group, then what should be thought? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Playing at work.....? Naughty, naughty!! (VBG) It's called lunchtime. ;) Besides, I work in the computer department... firewall logs? What firewall logs? ;)
Thund3rstruck_n0i - 26 Apr 2004 01:24 GMT Ray spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in <AqTic.256231$Ig.48045@pd7tw2no>
> It's called lunchtime. ;) > Besides, I work in the computer department... firewall logs? What > firewall logs? ;) I remember a Ray here from around 2 to 3 years ago. Would you be the same person?
Re: Lunchtime posting.
Is it really worth possibly losing your job?
NOI
Ray - 26 Apr 2004 05:57 GMT > Ray spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in > <AqTic.256231$Ig.48045@pd7tw2no> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > NOI I might be... I have an 80 TA project car, an 01 WS6 and just got a 76 Camaro dirt track car... do I sound like the same guy?
What exactly is the problem with reading newsgroups on my lunch hour? I'm allowed... and I have a "relationship" with my boss over my coffee breaks and lunches - I do the odd evening and weekend work in exchange for a "relaxed" schedule re: lunches...
Today's beef - trying to find front swaybar bushing brackets at the local Crappy Tire... everyone only has the bushings - I need the brackets - my Camaro came sans swaybar and I can't seem to find the brackets I took off the 80... and the local parts monkeys are being their usual idiot selves... but at least I managed to get my charging system functioning... only 100 more things to do before the first race in two weeks...
Thund3rstruck_n0i - 26 Apr 2004 11:23 GMT Ray spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in <2F0jc.261462$Ig.71710@pd7tw2no>
> I might be... I have an 80 TA project car, an 01 WS6 and just got a 76 > Camaro dirt track car... do I sound like the same guy? Unfortunately, I can't remember right now. :)
> What exactly is the problem with reading newsgroups on my lunch hour? > I'm allowed... and I have a "relationship" with my boss over my coffee > breaks and lunches - I do the odd evening and weekend work in exchange > for a "relaxed" schedule re: lunches... Ah. Didn't know that.
> Today's beef - trying to find front swaybar bushing brackets at the > local Crappy Tire... everyone only has the bushings - I need the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > system functioning... only 100 more things to do before the first race > in two weeks... Hmm. You try the usual sources? Also, Year One's website?
NOI
James Alio - 26 May 2004 07:25 GMT There is red paint on the lower front control arms! They weren't even on the car at the time of painting. The same is true of the "saddle". That being said, the car looks very clean. I would say someone steam-cleaned the hell out of of the underside. Didn't see ripples on the frame so it probably is straight. Even with the BSing about the paint, it may be a great car. Who knows? The thing is it is not inherently rare, making me wonder about the price. What does make it seem extraordinary is that it is unmolested.
> I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it came > from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice the > overspray in the whel wells as well). Check the pictures for yourself, > but while this car looks good, I think the claims of no leaks and > never been repainted are dubious! What do you folks think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2474401692
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