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Resprayed or not?

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Jimmy - 21 Apr 2004 18:34 GMT
I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it came
from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice the
overspray in the whel wells as well). Check the pictures for yourself,
but while this car looks good, I think the claims of no leaks and
never been repainted are dubious! What do you folks think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2474401692
ray - 21 Apr 2004 19:03 GMT
> I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it came
> from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice the
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>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2474401692

well, for sure the rear drums have been painted - I have yet to see any
car come stick with painted brake drums.

It's a nice looking car, but I dunno...

my 01 TA has some overspray on the undercarriage - but the front wheel
wells are plastic liners so I can't tell you if the wheelwell overspray
is stock.  And why do the tierods/front end look so greasy or something?

Ray
Charles Bendig - 21 Apr 2004 19:18 GMT
> I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it came
> from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice the
> overspray in the whel wells as well). Check the pictures for yourself,
> but while this car looks good, I think the claims of no leaks and
> never been repainted are dubious! What do you folks think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2474401692

   The over spray on the fornt  uni-body is correct. The over spray in  the
rear is correct for a converted car.

   Something you are not taking in to account. Final paint was not done at
the factory. The Car had final paint done by the converter. ASC, who may
have repainted the entire car. The brakes being painted body color may have
been a ASC option.

   Really a car like this requires resurch of the Conveter who did it. To
find out what  they did and did not do. What over spray to expect, ect.
Charles
Jimmy - 22 Apr 2004 15:00 GMT
Meant to say thanks, Charles. Got sidetracked.

I totally forgot about ASC doing the conversions because the 4th Gens
were done inhouse by GM at St. Therese IIRC (correct?), and I forget
after 1 year, nevermind 12! And I didn't know the final paint was done
out of GM's hands as well. Good history there.

I doubt my buddy would go for anything that steep pricewise to begin
with. He picked up a '98 Z-28 MN6 a few years back for 13,800 which he
loves but he still wants that 80's 3rd gen he had as a kid (same
reason I keep my mustang...if I can afford it I'll keep it..even
though it's MUCH slower than my camaro) He had a 91 a few years back
but sold it and picked up his LS1 camaro after hearing how happy I was
with mine. Bottom line is that he now has the room and is looking for
a project. I suggested a fisrt gen but it's the 3rd that he wants.

Jimmy


>     The over spray on the fornt  uni-body is correct. The over spray in  the
> rear is correct for a converted car.
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> find out what  they did and did not do. What over spray to expect, ect.
> Charles
FBR - 21 Apr 2004 21:01 GMT
> I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it came
> from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice the
> overspray in the whel wells as well). Check the pictures for yourself,
> but while this car looks good, I think the claims of no leaks and
> never been repainted are dubious! What do you folks think?

I think this is a thinly disguised way to cross-post an Ebay auction ad.
S.S.I.N. - 21 Apr 2004 22:14 GMT
"FBR"
> I think this is a thinly disguised way to cross-post an Ebay auction ad.

as do I.

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Jimmy - 22 Apr 2004 01:07 GMT
Nope. Check My posting history. No secret.

A friend and I thought this was a clipped car trying to be passed off as
cherry. Charles Bendig had some good pointsa though. I did NOT take into
accout the converter....

The front end grease though makes me think the auctioner is lying about no
leaks. And when we saw the overspray I was almost sure it was clipped
(taking two wrecks and making one good car). Just posted here asking what
you guys thought.

Jimmy
> > I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it came
> > from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I think this is a thinly disguised way to cross-post an Ebay auction ad.
FBR - 22 Apr 2004 01:26 GMT
> Nope. Check My posting history. No secret.
>
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>> I think this is a thinly disguised way to cross-post an Ebay auction
>> ad.

Here's the header from the original post;

Path:
twister.rdc-kc.rr.com!cyclone.kc.rr.com!news-west.rr.com!news.rr.com!newshos
ting.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!news.glorb.com!postnews1.google.com!not-
for-mail
From: jimsfastls1@yahoo.com (Jimmy)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.camaro,alt.autos.camaro.firebird
Subject: Resprayed or not?
Date: 21 Apr 2004 10:34:40 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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Message-ID: <c1d3fe3c.0404210934.62263e09@posting.google.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.68.134.174
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1082568880 19810 127.0.0.1 (21 Apr 2004 17:34:40
GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:34:40 +0000 (UTC)
Xref: cyclone.kc.rr.com alt.autos.camaro:34659
alt.autos.camaro.firebird:139361

Here's the header from your last post;

Path:
twister.rdc-kc.rr.com!cyclone.kc.rr.com!diablo.voicenet.com!167.206.3.103.MI
SMATCH!news3.optonline.net!news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: "Jimmy" <jimsfastls1@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.autos.camaro,alt.autos.camaro.firebird
References: <c1d3fe3c.0404210934.62263e09@posting.google.com>
<JqAhc.3201$kk7.2625@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Resprayed or not?
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X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
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Message-ID: <G0Ehc.89450$_g4.19124669@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 00:07:02 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.119.200.168
X-Complaints-To: abuse@cv.net
X-Trace: news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net 1082592422 69.119.200.168 (Wed, 21 Apr 2004
20:07:02 EDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 20:07:02 EDT
Organization: Optimum Online
Xref: cyclone.kc.rr.com alt.autos.camaro:34666
alt.autos.camaro.firebird:139367

Either you change posting hosts quite a bit or you are forging headers.
This is a favorite tactic of spammers.  90% of the posts listed by Google
Groups show jimsfastls1@yahoo.com as posting to
rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang, or alt.games.wolfenstein . Looking through my
archive of  alt.autos.camaro.firebird which goes back to January I don't see
you.  I'f I am wrong I apologize.

But I am pretty sure I'm not wrong.
Jimmy - 22 Apr 2004 01:38 GMT
You need to learn more about the internet.  I'm not forging headers. I'm not
that good.

But, hey. Believe what you want.

Like I said...look at my posting history.

Jimmy
> > Nope. Check My posting history. No secret.
> >
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>
> Path:

twister.rdc-kc.rr.com!cyclone.kc.rr.com!news-west.rr.com!news.rr.com!newshos

ting.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!news.glorb.com!postnews1.google.com!not-
> for-mail
> From: jimsfastls1@yahoo.com (Jimmy)
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Path:

twister.rdc-kc.rr.com!cyclone.kc.rr.com!diablo.voicenet.com!167.206.3.103.MI
> SMATCH!news3.optonline.net!news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net.POSTED!not-for-mail
> From: "Jimmy" <jimsfastls1@yahoo.com>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> But I am pretty sure I'm not wrong.
FBR - 22 Apr 2004 01:46 GMT
> You need to learn more about the internet.  I'm not forging headers.
> I'm not that good.
>
> But, hey. Believe what you want.
>
> Like I said...look at my posting history.

I did.
Jimmy - 22 Apr 2004 01:59 GMT
So enough said. Apology accepted.

Jimmy

> > You need to learn more about the internet.  I'm not forging headers.
> > I'm not that good.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I did.
Charles Bendig - 22 Apr 2004 03:35 GMT
> > I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it came
> > from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I think this is a thinly disguised way to cross-post an Ebay auction ad.

   That thought crossed my mind. But who would post a link to an  ebay item
to generate interest in it, then ask us to nit pick the item listed?

   I list a few items on Ebay (I have yet to put any F-body parts on
there), I wouldn't post a link to an item  and  ask people to nit pick it.
Charles
FBR - 22 Apr 2004 04:49 GMT
>>> I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it
>>> came from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> there), I wouldn't post a link to an item  and  ask people to nit
> pick it. Charles

Ebay items aren't supposed to be advertised by crossposting spam in usenet
groups.  PERIOD.  Since many posters have been reported, many w.nkers have
resorted to this type of post/crosspost.  Look up his posting history as he
asks, and look at the headers of his first, and rebuttal posts.  Methinks he
protests too much for being honest.

To save honest folk a problem how about a way to do this fairly.  No
crossposting, if a pic is in question, then host it and post it yourself.
No Ebay link.  That would keep any question of spamming at bay.  BTW, if you
"suddenly" appear with an Ebay post to look at, and it is crossposted, and
you have no posting history with a group, then what should be thought?  And
on top of that, the crossposter in question changes posting hosts more often
than a $5 whore on Saturday night changes panties.

Next Ebay post in question gets LARTED.  Simple as that.
Jimmy - 22 Apr 2004 14:43 GMT
> BTW, if you
> "suddenly" appear with an Ebay post to look at, and it is crossposted, and
> you have no posting history with a group, then what should be thought?  And
> on top of that, the crossposter in question changes posting hosts more often
> than a $5 whore on Saturday night changes panties.

Huh?

1)I've never bought or sold ANYTHING on ebay. Ever.

2)What do you care where I post from? I don't misrepresent myself. I
never have.

2)No posting history here?

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=jimsfastls1&meta=g
roup%3Dalt.autos.camaro
.*

3)It was a question about a camaro. My friend and I thought it was
being misrepresented. Should I ask in r.a.m.f.m? Perhaps
alt.game.wolfenstien? The chrysler newsgroup I've posted to before?
Or does it make more sense to post here? I mean maybe I'm
misunderstanding something but I though these were camaro newsgroups.
I live in the Bronx. The plates on that car IIRC are from Michigan. I
don't know anybody in Michigan.

Do you think EVERYONE that doesn't regulary post here is a freakin
spammer?

Jimmy
ray - 23 Apr 2004 19:59 GMT
> you have no posting history with a group, then what should be thought?  And
> on top of that, the crossposter in question changes posting hosts more often
> than a $5 whore on Saturday night changes panties.

I would appear to switch posting hosts a lot... a machine at home, a
machine at work...
Bill Hall - 24 Apr 2004 06:01 GMT
> > you have no posting history with a group, then what should be thought?  And
> > on top of that, the crossposter in question changes posting hosts more often
> > than a $5 whore on Saturday night changes panties.
>
> I would appear to switch posting hosts a lot... a machine at home, a
> machine at work...

Playing at work.....?  Naughty, naughty!!   (VBG)
Ray - 25 Apr 2004 19:27 GMT
>>>you have no posting history with a group, then what should be thought?
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Playing at work.....?  Naughty, naughty!!   (VBG)

It's called lunchtime. ;)
Besides, I work in the computer department... firewall logs?  What
firewall logs? ;)
Thund3rstruck_n0i - 26 Apr 2004 01:24 GMT
Ray spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in
<AqTic.256231$Ig.48045@pd7tw2no>
> It's called lunchtime. ;)
> Besides, I work in the computer department... firewall logs?  What
> firewall logs? ;)

I remember a Ray here from around 2 to 3 years ago. Would you be the same
person?

Re: Lunchtime posting.

Is it really worth possibly losing your job?

                                       NOI
Ray - 26 Apr 2004 05:57 GMT
> Ray spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in
> <AqTic.256231$Ig.48045@pd7tw2no>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>                                         NOI

I might be... I have an 80 TA project car, an 01 WS6 and just got a 76
Camaro dirt track car... do I sound like the same guy?

What exactly is the problem with reading newsgroups on my lunch hour?
I'm allowed... and I have a "relationship" with my boss over my coffee
breaks and lunches - I do the odd evening and weekend work in exchange
for a "relaxed" schedule re: lunches...

Today's beef - trying to find front swaybar bushing brackets at the
local Crappy Tire... everyone only has the bushings - I need the
brackets - my Camaro came sans swaybar and I can't seem to find the
brackets I took off the 80... and the local parts monkeys are being
their usual idiot selves... but at least I managed to get my charging
system functioning... only 100 more things to do before the first race
in two weeks...
Thund3rstruck_n0i - 26 Apr 2004 11:23 GMT
Ray spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in
<2F0jc.261462$Ig.71710@pd7tw2no>
> I might be... I have an 80 TA project car, an 01 WS6 and just got a 76
> Camaro dirt track car... do I sound like the same guy?

Unfortunately, I can't remember right now. :)

> What exactly is the problem with reading newsgroups on my lunch hour?
> I'm allowed... and I have a "relationship" with my boss over my coffee
> breaks and lunches - I do the odd evening and weekend work in exchange
> for a "relaxed" schedule re: lunches...

Ah. Didn't know that.

> Today's beef - trying to find front swaybar bushing brackets at the
> local Crappy Tire... everyone only has the bushings - I need the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> system functioning... only 100 more things to do before the first race
> in two weeks...

Hmm. You try the usual sources? Also, Year One's website?

                                       NOI
James Alio - 26 May 2004 07:25 GMT
There is red paint on the lower front control arms!  They weren't even on
the car at the time of painting.  The same is true of the "saddle".  That
being said, the car looks very clean.  I would say someone steam-cleaned the
hell out of of the underside.  Didn't see ripples on the frame so it
probably is straight.  Even with the BSing about the paint, it may be a
great car.  Who knows?  The thing is it is not inherently rare, making me
wonder about the price.  What does make it seem extraordinary is that it is
unmolested.

> I say it is. A friend inquired and was told by the seller that it came
> from the factory this way (overspray on the underbody - notice the
> overspray in the whel wells as well). Check the pictures for yourself,
> but while this car looks good, I think the claims of no leaks and
> never been repainted are dubious! What do you folks think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2474401692
 
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