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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Camaro / July 2004

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'86 CHMSL

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Smite Evil - 17 Jul 2004 19:18 GMT
CHMSL = center high mounted stop light

It's mounted externally, on the roof side of the hatchback glass.
This was the first and only year Z28's and IROC-Z's had this
unique feature.

I'm perplexed because this item seems to appear or disappear,
dependant upon what State the car was sold in.
I've seen (allegedly authentic) cars without it!

What is reality, about this brake light thingy?
Are '86 Camaros without a CHMSL counterfeit?
Don't DOT rules apply consistently, throughout the contiguous
States?

Thanx,
Smiteman
John King - 17 Jul 2004 21:17 GMT
What is reality, about this brake light thingy?
Are '86 Camaros without a CHMSL counterfeit?
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They have a hatch installed from another car? Due to replacing a rusted
original? Only thing I can think of... 86 was the only year of the
externally mounted brake light because it was an ugly feature that was a
standard... 87 and later were mounted in the rear spoiler.

> CHMSL = center high mounted stop light
>
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> Thanx,
> Smiteman
CBHVAC - 17 Jul 2004 23:37 GMT
> What is reality, about this brake light thingy?
> Are '86 Camaros without a CHMSL counterfeit?
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> externally mounted brake light because it was an ugly feature that was a
> standard... 87 and later were mounted in the rear spoiler.

Nope...not all later models were in the rear spoiler...they went back to the
high mounted inside the hatch light.

> > CHMSL = center high mounted stop light
> >
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> > Thanx,
> > Smiteman
Leo Navoichick - 19 Jul 2004 19:30 GMT
> > What is reality, about this brake light thingy?
> > Are '86 Camaros without a CHMSL counterfeit?
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> Nope...not all later models were in the rear spoiler...they went back to the
> high mounted inside the hatch light.

Yep, the only thing I can't stand about my 92 Z is the center stop
light, you can't see a thing out the rear view mirror with that there.

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Leo
SBlackfoot - 24 Jul 2004 04:45 GMT
> Are '86 Camaros without a CHMSL counterfeit?

Why in the hell would ANYBODY want to counterfiet a 1986 Chevy Camaro? The
very idea just seems ubsurd.
Charles Bendig - 24 Jul 2004 23:47 GMT
> > Are '86 Camaros without a CHMSL counterfeit?
>
> Why in the hell would ANYBODY want to counterfiet a 1986 Chevy Camaro? The
> very idea just seems ubsurd.

   You would be surprised at the  things Idiots do to cars.  They will try
to  counterfeit GTA's, IROC's, and 92 RS cars. Hell if  I like the way  one
looks, even  if it started life as  a base   model  Ill buy it.  If it
happens to have GTA emblems  or IROC  decals(or painted lettering) on the
doors, Ill remove it. Then sell it for what it  is after  I'm tired of it.
Ill get pretty much what it would as if it were  a GTA or   IROC, because I
will make  it clean,  and   look good.

   A buddy of mine has a 1987 Monty Carlo LS. I sold  him my 1988 Monty
Carlo SS parts car (for next to nothing). The LS was  hit across the nose,
and it's getting the frame from  under a 87 Cutlass Classic. Someone asked
me once Will the SS parts  make it a real  SS? I  told them "Not really, nor
will it ever be claimed  to be a SS".   Just a cool  looking  car saved from
death.
Charles
SBlackfoot - 25 Jul 2004 07:19 GMT
> > Why in the hell would ANYBODY want to counterfiet a 1986 Chevy Camaro? The
> > very idea just seems ubsurd.
>
>     You would be surprised at the  things Idiots do to cars.  They will try
> to  counterfeit GTA's, IROC's, and 92 RS cars.

Oh I know, counterfieting GTAs is fairly common (saw a fake in a junker a
couple of months back). At least those cars are somewhat special, they're
selling points that would command more money (even if only slightly). Who
would go out of their way to counterfiet (or purchase for that matter) an
'86 Camaro? Would anyone search out that one special car with a bigger blind
spot than the rest?
 
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