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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Corvette / April 2004Black tattle-tale box
Just picked up my Lemans Blue Limited edition, Still have my 95 (arctic white), can one have to many vettes? The question is: Can the tattle tale box be disconnected. I find it to be invasive to my rights. Having a box that can tell the cops, insurance companies and anyone else what I was doing is none of there business. How long does it hold the information? Thank Ken IIRC the last 5 second before Airbag deployment is what is saved. There are a couple of white papers and it was a hot topic several years ago(mostly misunderstanding what was stored). If you believe your rights are invaded then you probably ought to read up on it. Of course they still can figure out you were WAY over the limit when you launched it so what is it think you're going to hide from them? > Just picked up my Lemans Blue Limited edition, Still have my 95 (arctic > white), can one have to many vettes? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Ken I've wondered about disconnecting the black box - but.......if you are speeding & have the airbag deploy (presumably in an accident) - IT'S YOUR FAULT - you have to take responsibility for your speeding. If you are in an accident & can show you were 2mph under the limit - it's a very useful thing. When (friends) pedestrians estimate the speed of my 99 6-speed (with after-market exhaust), they often OVERestimate by as much as 15-20mph. I'd like to have the black box prove them wrong. And finally, having been out on a deserted desert road a few weeks ago, to do a top-speed check, I'm glad the figures aren't kept indefinitely.........or I'd be going to jail ! > IIRC the last 5 second before Airbag deployment is what is saved. There > are a couple of white papers and it was a hot topic several years [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > > > Ken How near did you wind it out tight? If you did you're a better man than I. Tried it on a 6 mile unobstructed stretch of road and I run out of balls before it run out of wind, although it was close. Didn't want to smoke the brakes so I didn't want any less distance to stop than I used to reach speed, it was done with ease in the 6 mile stretch. It was new then with 3,600 mile and it does stick to the road the faster you go. You know it's sucking down on the road and becomes easy to bottom out. That was what made me shut it down, just the right kind of hit on the frame and I don't want to know what could have happened.  SignatureDad 98 C5 Black/Black/Auto 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd > I've wondered about disconnecting the black box - but.......if you are > speeding & have the airbag deploy (presumably in an accident) - IT'S [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > to do a top-speed check, I'm glad the figures aren't kept > indefinitely.........or I'd be going to jail ! > How near did you wind it out tight? If you did you're a better man than I. > Tried it on a 6 mile unobstructed stretch of road and I run out of balls [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > me shut it down, just the right kind of hit on the frame and I don't want to > know what could have happened. I think there was anoth 5mph or so left. I know a 30 mile section of desert road with a number of 2+ mile straights, with 100-120mph kinks, bends, bridges or other speed control features. 2 lanes each way, raised median, farm land each side, no housing, no obsctructions to visibility. It doesn't get much better. It's not too bad running the road fast - the only problem is having to assume (from experience) that other traffic will underestimate my speed by as much as 100mph. So if I see a single vehicle, it's time to slow down. I'd already run my 99 Camaro SS down this road to about a speedo 160 and found my 99 Corvette 6-speed much easier to handle. I'm not planning another speed run for now - although I might think of running the Silver State in a few years, when I've got a better handle on the car - http://www.silverstateclassic.com/ > > How near did you wind it out tight? If you did you're a better man than I. > > Tried it on a 6 mile unobstructed stretch of road and I run out of balls [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > running the Silver State in a few years, when I've got a better handle > on the car - http://www.silverstateclassic.com/ Have you ever looked into how much you would have tired up cost wise in running the Silver State Classic? By the time I got done adding up the cost I scrapped the plan of going. SignatureDad 98 C5 Black/Black/Auto 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd I was very lucky a little while back. We have a nice straight road that was just repaved and very little traffic as it cuts across some of those fields for Astro-Turf and other grass. Decided to see what my 98 C5 would do after installing a VaraRam intake and Bassani X-Pipe and Corsa Pro Tip Pace car exhaust. Well got it up to what looked like 160 on the speedo (GPS said 158) and....a few mins later a unmarked police pulled me over :-(. Figured out I was off to jail.. He asked why the hurry and just told him the truth about wanting to see how the new intake and exhaust worked. He had clocked me at 156 mph and said he was "just checking out his new pulsed laser/radar gun and it gave a false reading with the extra "1" in front of the 56" So got a ticket for 56 mph ! He also had a vette and told me that his looked like mine at that speed (ie. Lowering itself a few inches) and same exhaust sound. Warned me that most other radar's are well checked out and do not have the speed reading problem, all while smiling and tell me I had a nice machine. Wow..talk about luck ! First ticket in 30 years for me as I usually drive no more then about 5 mph over the limit. SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA >> How near did you wind it out tight? If you did you're a better man than >> I. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > running the Silver State in a few years, when I've got a better handle > on the car - http://www.silverstateclassic.com/ > I was very lucky a little while back. We have a nice straight road that was > just repaved and very little traffic as it cuts across some of those fields > for Astro-Turf and other grass. Wow, they're growing that stuff now, bet that saves Dalton a lot of time in the carpet mills. SignatureDad 98 C5 Black/Black/Auto 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd We call it "Astro-Turf" which is incorrect, just that it looks alot like Astro-Turf, except its organic. SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA >> I was very lucky a little while back. We have a nice straight road that > was [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > in > the carpet mills. Agreed, nothing looks better than 600 acres of new grass. SignatureDad 98 C5 Black/Black/Auto 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd > We call it "Astro-Turf" which is incorrect, just that it looks alot like > Astro-Turf, except its organic. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > in > > the carpet mills. Tedd; You are truly blessed. I got caught speeding in my '84. I was going just over 100. When the cop pulled me over he gave me a "break" and wrote it for 95 in a 55. I went to trial (mandatory if over 30(?) mph over the speed limit in Georgia) and got it reduced to 80 by not proceeding to trial. Still cost me a bundle. But you have to admit something special happens to a vette over 100 mph. I had my '84 up to about 125 mph and ran out of road. Supposedly the '84 would do 140 - 145 mph, but 125 was fast enough for me. BTW; the ticket didn't slow me down it just made me more careful about where I do it. Striker > I was very lucky a little while back. We have a nice straight road that was > just repaved and very little traffic as it cuts across some of those fields [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > running the Silver State in a few years, when I've got a better handle > > on the car - http://www.silverstateclassic.com/ Hi Striker, You aren't kidding that the Vette takes on a life of its own over 100 ! It felt good at 100, but touchy on handling, from 100-125 I almost chickened out as it just felt strange, almost like I was hydroplaning, but over 125, it seemed like it just "locked in" and felt like it was on rails, nice and smooth, but I did have rather white knuckles ! I don't know what our laws are on speeding, when I lived in Virginia years ago, 20 mph was "Reckless driving" a huge fine and I think a automatic 3 month suspension of your license. Mine was 56 in a 35 zone and if I pay it, it's $206. Have no idea what my insurance will do. The cop told me to take it to court and since I have a clean record (one speeding 30 years ago, the day after I got my license) and according to the cop, it will most likely not go on my record and they will drop the fine down to about $100. Guess I will find out in about a month. The cop said that if I had not been honest about speeding (told him I wanted to try out the new intake and exhaust) and no radar detector, he probably would have written the ticket for alot higher. The thing around here is make sure you are 100% legal around construction sites as the fines and charge double. A friend of mine got a ticket for 10 mph over, no shoulder belt and no current proof of insurance in the car, it cost him over $900 ! Good thing he was not talking on a cell phone at the same time. They get real nasty on that one. Ticket did not slow me down either as I usually stick to the limits pretty close, but I sure look around alot more now ! Tedd SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA > Tedd; > [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] >> > running the Silver State in a few years, when I've got a better handle >> > on the car - http://www.silverstateclassic.com/ Tedd Riggs spoke thusly: > Hi Striker, > You aren't kidding that the Vette takes on a life of its own over 100 <snip> If you guys want to keep doing this and making me jealous, may I suggest the "Valentine One" Radar/Laser detector? I've used a few different types over the years as a sales guy on the road and the V1 has them all beat, hands down. It has a lot of nice features. The only thing I don't like about it is the physical size. But if you look at one, you'll see why it's as big as it is. Just a little history, Mike Valentine was the chief engineer at Cincinnati Microwave that later became known as Escort, the makers of Escort and Passport Radar Detectors. Mike became dissatisfied with the way things were going at Escort (plummeting product quality and cost cutting) so he set off to develop and market the best detector known to mankind. My opinion is that he succeeded. BTW, mine is scary enough at 80, I'm not taking it over 100. Damn 36 year old technology...but it's staying that way. SignatureShut up, Dave. -|>|- Diode -|<|- '68 L-79 Coupe '79 Triumph Bonneville I have a Valentine One and they are great units, hardly ever give a false alarm. Only trouble is mine is one of the first one's made and when I plug in the serial number, it tells me no upgrade to my unit, but will let me trade mine in and get a new one for $235. Have not decided if I will get it as I am usually pretty careful on speeds. SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA > Tedd Riggs spoke thusly: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > at 80, I'm not taking it over 100. Damn 36 year old technology...but it's > staying that way. Most radar detectors are a waste of money, the cops know about them, right? Do you think they keep the same method of timing? Nope. It's like having sex with a stranger, you're on you own. It to can kill you of have an effect for the rest of your life. SignatureDad 98 C5 Black/Black/Auto 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd > Tedd Riggs spoke thusly: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > that he succeeded. BTW, mine is scary enough at 80, I'm not taking it > over 100. Damn 36 year old technology...but it's staying that way. Dad spoke thusly: > Most radar detectors are a waste of money, the cops know about them, right? > Do you think they keep the same method of timing? Nope. It's like having sex > with a stranger, you're on you own. It to can kill you of have an effect > for the rest of your life. This is the one time I can't agree with you, Dad. My V1 (and others) has saved my butt on many occasions. You just have to use your head. Of course, I've often wondered why cops thought it was perfectly normal for me to be going past them with smoke pouring off the tires and coffee slashed all over the windshield :o) SignatureShut up, Dave. -|>|- Diode -|<|- '68 L-79 Coupe '79 Triumph Bonneville You're entitled to your opinion. My Valentine is in the cupboard, never bothered to put in either one of my last three Corvettes. To old to up date and it's an ugly addition to any automobile. Never got but one ticket in a Corvette and that was in 1964. Most of the time, and I have been stopped lately, they just want to look at the car. The last two stops they never even mentioned the lack of a license plate on the front or Uzi on the passengers seat. Cops are there for clean up, paper work, and revenue enhancement, the courts have stripped them of being a competent police force. SignatureDad 98 C5 Black/Black/Auto 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd > Dad spoke thusly: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > for me to be going past them with smoke pouring off the tires and coffee > slashed all over the windshield :o) Dad spoke thusly: > You're entitled to your opinion. My Valentine is in the cupboard, never > bothered to put in either one of my last three Corvettes. To old to up date [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > enhancement, the courts have stripped them of being a competent police > force. You've kind of made my point...it's the "revenue enhancement" that I prefer to avoid :o) Knock on wood, I haven't been stopped yet in the Vette "clearing the pipes"...it's the daily driver that I'm concerned about. SignatureShut up, Dave. -|>|- Diode -|<|- '68 L-79 Coupe '79 Triumph Bonneville Dad, you want to sell your Uzi? Also, are you a Vet who drives a vette? Striker > You're entitled to your opinion. My Valentine is in the cupboard, never > bothered to put in either one of my last three Corvettes. To old to up date [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > for me to be going past them with smoke pouring off the tires and coffee > > slashed all over the windshield :o) Interesting analogy, Dad. BTW: I got my "big' ticket from a cop getting on the interstate behind me. He was pretty pissed at me because he could catch up with me until I let off and slowed down below 120. I was stupid and a the best radar detector would have helped me. However, since he used the "pace " method of clocking me, his case was weaker in court. I got it down to 80 as I recall, but still paid thru the nose. That was almost 20 years ago and I remember it as if it was yesterday. Some sort of Corvette PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder). Striker > Most radar detectors are a waste of money, the cops know about them, right? > Do you think they keep the same method of timing? Nope. It's like having sex [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > that he succeeded. BTW, mine is scary enough at 80, I'm not taking it > > over 100. Damn 36 year old technology...but it's staying that way. The Valentine 1 is the best brand on the market, hands down. But a radar detector really only serves the purpose of letting you know you got caught at the same time the cop knows he got you. Gives you the chance top get you license and registration together by the time he pulls out and lights you up :-) >Most radar detectors are a waste of money, the cops know about them, right? >Do you think they keep the same method of timing? Nope. It's like having sex >with a stranger, you're on you own. It to can kill you of have an effect >for the rest of your life. > > SignatureRic Seyler RicSeyler spoke thusly: > The Valentine 1 is the best brand on the market, hands down. > > But a radar detector really only serves the purpose of letting you > know you got caught at the same time the cop knows he got you. Like I said...you have to use your head. If you are the lone wolf out there, you're screwed. Detectors ABSOLUTELY are NOT a guarantee that you won't get a ticket. At best, they significantly improve your odds. That's all I expect though. Most of the time I have plenty of warning when the cop is shooting cars way up ahead of me, even with instant on. Surprisingly, I even get laser warnings on occasion. They have more scatter than I would have expected. But like I said, if you're on the road alone, you're toast. Unless the cop is being lazy and leaving it on instead of using the instant on feature. SignatureShut up, Dave. -|>|- Diode -|<|- '68 L-79 Coupe '79 Triumph Bonneville > RicSeyler spoke thusly: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > road alone, you're toast. Unless the cop is being lazy and leaving it > on instead of using the instant on feature. And a V1 can help from behind as well. Was in a small town in Oregon and we stopped for lunch... as we were leaving town I went back up to about 65-70 in a 55 zone - no biggie until the detector went off BIG time like I was being microwaved from behind... only vehicle back there was a pickup, but I slowed back down to 55 - take no chances and sure enough it was a county mounty in an pickup - when he got closer I could see the light bar on top... and the V1 saved me from a ticket - even a small one is one I don't need... Ray Diode, you '68 looked brand new to me. In reality, it's not 37 years old is it? Striker > Tedd Riggs spoke thusly: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > that he succeeded. BTW, mine is scary enough at 80, I'm not taking it > over 100. Damn 36 year old technology...but it's staying that way. Sgt. Striker spoke thusly: > Diode, you '68 looked brand new to me. In reality, it's not 37 years old is > it? > > Striker Yup. It had a body-on resto in 82 and has been well cared for since. I've had the car since last June (got it from Pro Team). It needs new carpeting and a few other things, but all in all, it's in pretty good shape. Thanks for asking. SignatureShut up, Dave. -|>|- Diode -|<|- '68 L-79 Coupe '79 Triumph Bonneville > Mine was 56 in a 35 zone and if I pay > it, it's $206. Have no idea what my insurance will do. The cop told me to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > exhaust) and no radar detector, he probably would have written the ticket > for alot higher. You're saying you were *actually* going 156 in a 35mph zone? Ummm... If so, that sounds pretty irresponsible... 35 zones are usually business and populated urban areas with entrances and drives opening onto the roadway... Tell me I misinterpreted the story. > > > Well got it up to what looked like 160 on the speedo (GPS said 158) > > > and....a few mins later a unmarked police pulled me over :-(. Figured [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > luck ! First ticket in 30 years for me as I usually drive no more > > > then about 5 mph over the limit. Here's waving to ya - \|||| Owen The area is a two lane road that is about 4 miles across and has no homes or any entrances to the road at all. It cuts thru the middle of a 500 acre plot of land that grows grass sod on both sides of the road and also very little traffic, you enter it by coming down a large hill so you can look all the way down the road and see if there is any traffic. It's 35 as its in Redmond Town limits. Doing 156 mph on any road (except parts of the Autobahn) is not the worlds most responsible thing to do and the only time I have ever done something like that. But it was a clear day, Sunday morning at about 6:30 am and most of the town was asleep. Also I just took it up to that speed for about one second and then back down to 40 mph fast. I would not even think of speeding in a business area or a road that had many entrances, this one just cuts thru a big patch of farmland and also was just repaved, so nice and smooth. So yes, I was a little irresponsible for a min or so. SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA >> Mine was 56 in a 35 zone and if I pay >> it, it's $206. Have no idea what my insurance will do. The cop told me to [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Owen >The area is a two lane road that is about 4 miles across and has no homes or >any entrances to the road at all. It cuts thru the middle of a 500 acre plot [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >> >> Owen Come out West young men. We've nice long straight stretches with shallow crowns. Avoid tortoise mating season (April-June). A quick drag for pot-holes or road kill. Turn about, wait to clear any oncoming and make a nice run. Choose a clear day and scan the skies for those pesky CHiPs in light airplanes! Removing the rear plate has been tried but there ain't a vette that will outrun a radio! Out here there's little bargaining with a court clerk. Gov. Arnold needs the money to pay off Davis's debts and we all try to help. So, it can be, 'Hasta luego baby.' {{;-[ Cojones cubed is the guy who claims to have run Rosamond dry lake WOT in his Viper, lights off, just before dawn. (Wise choice--since if he creamed it in the dark, it would be light enough for the crash crew to salvage his a.s before he died.) He figured daylight was out since 'trespass' would be felony charges in federal court. (more $$$$ than a Viper to defend!) Regards, "Mike" -- mikeellison3xxxatzzzyahoo.com -- > Removing the rear plate has been tried but there ain't a vette > that will outrun a radio! Out here there's little bargaining with As I have told others, it isn't outrunning the radio that is necessary, just the guy on the other radio. If he is moving to intercept you, you simply have to get to the intersection point before him, and be gone. When he gets there, he is waiting for you to show up. It has been done, in day and night conditions, and I won't mention names. As an attorney I had once said "I can get you out of anything if they don't catch you there." In other words, let them find me five blocks away in a parking lot, and I was home free. Better yet, not let them find me. Tedd; In Texas where I live now, You can make the ticket go away if you agree to go to driving school. You will still pay the fine and some fees, but no points or insurance problems if you finish the school and stay clean for 6 months I believe. You also may want to check the internet about how to beat tickets, you may get a few good ideas. Thanks for the warning about Virginia. I've wanted to go there and tour the battlefields with my son. If do, I will not speed or talk on my cell phone, which is "a good thing"! Good luck. Striker > Hi Striker, > You aren't kidding that the Vette takes on a life of its own over 100 ! [quoted text clipped - 105 lines] > >> > running the Silver State in a few years, when I've got a better handle > >> > on the car - http://www.silverstateclassic.com/ Sgt. Striker spoke thusly: > tickets, you may get a few good ideas. Thanks for the warning about > Virginia. I've wanted to go there and tour the battlefields with my son. > If do, I will not speed or talk on my cell phone, which is "a good thing"! > Good luck. > > Striker Hide the radar detector in Virginia too...or is that West Virginia? One of them will take it away from you. SignatureShut up, Dave. -|>|- Diode -|<|- '68 L-79 Coupe '79 Triumph Bonneville Diode, It in Virginia and Washington DC. In DC its even illegal to have one in the car. Virginia sometimes takes them away and can be a very nasty ticket if the cop follows all the things he could throw at you and the worst is "evading a police officer" Then a big fat ticket. Yeah the old battlefields are neat to see, I used to go to the ones near Manassas (spelling ?) often. SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA > Sgt. Striker spoke thusly: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Hide the radar detector in Virginia too...or is that West Virginia? One > of them will take it away from you. > I was very lucky a little while back. We have a nice straight road that > was just repaved and very little traffic as it cuts across some of those [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > First ticket in 30 years for me as I usually drive no more then about 5 > mph over the limit. Hehe, I love it when people document their crimes in public :) Mike Mike, we need this service from our friends like Tedd so we can learn how to avoid these "situations" in the future. Striker ============== > > I was very lucky a little while back. We have a nice straight road that > > was just repaved and very little traffic as it cuts across some of those [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Hehe, I love it when people document their crimes in public :) > Mike "Hehe, I love it when people document their crimes in public :) Mike" At least I was honest about it. It's not exactly like admitting a felony if I was someone that the police were looking for. Just a fact, not much difference then the "Testimonies" in the radar detector web sites. SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA >> I was very lucky a little while back. We have a nice straight road that >> was just repaved and very little traffic as it cuts across some of those >> fields for Astro-Turf and other grass. >> Decided to see what my 98 C5 would do after installing a VaraRam >> intake and Bassani X-Pipe and Corsa Pro Tip Pace car exhaust. I've owned my vette since "98 and never got a ticket. My wife buys a new Silverado last year, and I get my first moving violation in 23 years driving that truck. How'd ya figure? Ed >> I was very lucky a little while back. We have a nice straight road that >> was just repaved and very little traffic as it cuts across some of those [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >Hehe, I love it when people document their crimes in public :) >Mike |
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