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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Corvette / May 2004Adding HUD aftermarket
Hi folks My '99 doesnt have HUD. (Can't live with out it) I'm considering replacing the dash, cluster, and adding the projector. Has anybody done this before? Did you run into any problems? Will GM dealers reprogram the odometer? Are they the only ones who can/will do it? These questions and many more cause me restless nights.. -Stan I have heard of a few people that looked into in detail, but backed off due to cost as just the HUD projector is about $1200 (Would have to cut into the dash to install). End result was about $3000 to upgrade to this (not including alot of labor) In talking to the people that researched it, it is no big deal to tie in with the central CPU. The odometer change is a dealer only change in most states and they have to leave the mileage the same. I have talked to two aftermarket dealers and they ended up dropping the project as the cost was to high. The only person I know that did it was able to pull the entire dash from a wreaked Z06 and with about 40 hours of labor, got it working. Sorry I don't have a great deals on it, but all the people I talked to where Electrical Engineers and know electronics and HUD's well and said it was very difficult to get real info on it. Just my 2 cents. If I hear or see anything more about it, will let you know, but sounds like one very major change that is hard to justify the cost.  SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA > Hi folks > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Stan Try this, http://www.corvetteforum.com/techtips/viewsubtopic.php?SubTopicID=144&TopicID=1 > Hi folks > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -Stan That method sounds a whole lot easier then what others have said, does not sound like all that bad of a install from that posting. Interesting...and thanks for the link. Tedd SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA > Try this, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> -Stan sbright spoke thusly: > Hi folks > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -Stan I have a non-Corvette that has a HUD. There is a reflective spot on the windshield that the HUD projects on to. Wouldn't you need to have that too? If so, a windshield with that little reflective spot is mighty expensive. Ask me how I know... SignatureShut up, Dave. -|>|- Diode -|<|- '68 L-79 Coupe '79 Triumph Bonneville Diode, For most cases you need that reflective spot or the HUD is close to impossible to see (except at night) The real windshields that have that built in are very expensive. I have seen some people add a small polarizing patch to that section of the windshield and that works great with the HUD, but it a bit like looking thru a smeared windshield and not really legal in most places. SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA > sbright spoke thusly: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > too? If so, a windshield with that little reflective spot is mighty > expensive. Ask me how I know... Errr, are you saying that HUD equiped models have a different windshield to non-HUD models......so if you smash your windsheild you have to replace with correct version..... > Diode, > For most cases you need that reflective spot or the HUD is close to [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > '68 L-79 Coupe > > '79 Triumph Bonneville Yes, GM windshield number 10295097 and for the UV6 option 10426714. SignatureDad 04 C5 CE Z51 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd > Errr, are you saying that HUD equiped models have a different windshield to > non-HUD models......so if you smash your windsheild you have to replace with [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > > '68 L-79 Coupe > > > '79 Triumph Bonneville On the cars that I checked, yes its a different Windshield and so far only a OEM version, so...not cheap. SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA > Errr, are you saying that HUD equiped models have a different windshield > to [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >> > '68 L-79 Coupe >> > '79 Triumph Bonneville Wow. The windshield thing is upsetting me. I usually turn the HUD off or WAY down at night so I can see the deer trying to dart into the road. How bad does it look on a reg windshield? There was a projector on ebay yestarday at $500+ dollars!! I may have to go looking at a junkyard and pull the parts myself. I figured on about $300-400 in parts plus my labor. This is starting to look expensive.. -Stan > On the cars that I checked, yes its a different Windshield and so far only a > OEM version, so...not cheap. [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > >> > '68 L-79 Coupe > >> > '79 Triumph Bonneville Stan, Thanks to "Dad" for providing the part numbers needed and http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/ for the pricing. Normal Windshield 10295097 GM LIST: $428.14 OUR PRICE: $252.60 UV Windshield for HUD systems 10426714 GM LIST: $1,012.76 OUR PRICE: $597.53 Good thing to turn down or OFF the HUD at night, that can cause some real problems ! Wow as far as the display issue. I have only seen two system on a car with the regular glass, a Vette and Cadillac. At night I would say the same, overcast days are about like viewing most watches with the back light on (for regular windshield) to viewing a watch that has the Timex Indego backlight (with special Windshield). With direct sunlight, then the normal windshield has a small "ghost" effect and its not real easy to make out. Partial workaround are sometimes good UV sunglasses can help some (especially the ones for fish finding or on the water types) or applying a small UV/Polarizing "Patch" (ie Stick on) where the display is projected, sometimes this works great, but can leave a smearing type look to your system. If there is anyway that you can "borrow" the projector, its a single cable hookup to your master display computer and you can just place the projector on the dash and see for yourself (as long as you also have the small control panel that fits into the left pod of the dash for controlling the brightness and other options) That link that Bob provided a little while ago is the best one I have seen for what is involved. http://www.corvetteforum.com/techtips/viewsubtopic.php?SubTopicID=144&TopicID=1 You might try emailing the author and get a better idea on doing this. Tedd tarday at $500+ dollars!! I may have to go looking at a junkyard and pull > the parts myself. > [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] >> >> > '68 L-79 Coupe >> >> > '79 Triumph Bonneville Thanks for the part numbers....being in the UK, if the worst does happen, at least i can tell them what I need..... thank goodness for Fully Comprehensive insurance cover... > Stan, > Thanks to "Dad" for providing the part numbers needed and [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > That link that Bob provided a little while ago is the best one I have > seen for what is involved. http://www.corvetteforum.com/techtips/viewsubtopic.php?SubTopicID=144&TopicI D=1 > You might try emailing the author and get a better idea on doing this. > Tedd [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > >> >> > '68 L-79 Coupe > >> >> > '79 Triumph Bonneville Hi Chris, Not sure how this works in the UK, but I have heard several people in the US having problems with windshield replacement on the HUD ones as the insurance companies always want to go the cheapest route and replace with 3rd party windshield, but so far there are no third party ones that I have heard of that make the UV HUD versions. SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA > Thanks for the part numbers....being in the UK, if the worst does happen, > at [quoted text clipped - 129 lines] >> >> >> > '68 L-79 Coupe >> >> >> > '79 Triumph Bonneville There are third party builders making the HUD windshield, it's the insurance companies that are blowing smoke. SignatureDad 04 C5 CE Z51 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd > Hi Chris, > Not sure how this works in the UK, but I have heard several people in [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > >> That link that Bob provided a little while ago is the best one I have > >> seen for what is involved. http://www.corvetteforum.com/techtips/viewsubtopic.php?SubTopicID=144&TopicI > > D=1 > >> [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > >> >> >> > '68 L-79 Coupe > >> >> >> > '79 Triumph Bonneville OK good to know about the third party makers. I think all insurance companies have been blowing smoke for years..Getting nasty to deal with them except when they want to get paid and then as a good return on your money, you might get a cheap calendar with your agents picture on it. Almost as useful as an AOL disk mailed to you. (except the AOL disks make for great coffee cup mats, and see the interesting color patterns you get sometimes) SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA > There are third party builders making the HUD windshield, it's the > insurance [quoted text clipped - 162 lines] >> >> >> >> > '68 L-79 Coupe >> >> >> >> > '79 Triumph Bonneville I'm not sure about the polarized glasses. I can't see the HUD display if I wear them. I stick to $15 cheapies usually.. -Stan > Stan, > Thanks to "Dad" for providing the part numbers needed and [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > That link that Bob provided a little while ago is the best one I have > seen for what is involved. http://www.corvetteforum.com/techtips/viewsubtopic.php?SubTopicID=144&TopicID=1 > You might try emailing the author and get a better idea on doing this. > Tedd [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > >> >> > '68 L-79 Coupe > >> >> > '79 Triumph Bonneville Only a few polarized glasses will work, the average ones are circular polarization (they block the UV/Sun from any angle) the marine ones and especially the "fish finder" lens are linear and block light along the horizontal axis and those will work with HUD's. If a friend has a camera with one of the rotating polarizer filters, you can see it real fast. But it is very dependent on the sunglasses and I would not count on it to do anything even close too getting the right Windshield, its more of a "bandage" then anything. The good ones are not cheap, the cheapest I have seen are made by Nikon and those are $75. SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA > I'm not sure about the polarized glasses. I can't see the HUD display if > I [quoted text clipped - 125 lines] >> >> >> > '68 L-79 Coupe >> >> >> > '79 Triumph Bonneville Hmm.. learned something today.. and it's only 6 am... The polarized glasses I have are marketed for divers. I wasn't aware of different polarization methods. The projector part is really throwing me a curve. And old one went for $500+ on ebay. Similar parts for Bonnevile sell for $80.. Yikes!! -Stan > Only a few polarized glasses will work, the average ones are circular > polarization (they block the UV/Sun from any angle) the marine ones and [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > >> That link that Bob provided a little while ago is the best one I have > >> seen for what is involved. http://www.corvetteforum.com/techtips/viewsubtopic.php?SubTopicID=144&TopicID=1 > >> You might try emailing the author and get a better idea on doing this. > >> Tedd [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > >> >> >> > '68 L-79 Coupe > >> >> >> > '79 Triumph Bonneville Hello Stan- You more brave than I on this. The dash rattle game alone is enough to scare me. GM projectors vary--HUDs in C5s I've driven include a lateral 'g' segment in the display (probably sourced out of the ABS/Act.H. side-force sensor). No segment for that on mama's Buick and the segment for DIC warnings is different. That Bonneville projector probably won't give you all the elements that you'd get in the stock C5 projector. IIRC the Buick HUD was part of a handling package (bundled with either the 'sport' suspension or Stabilitrac) and the sticker pricing on the package was < $ 800 so we're not talking about a lot of bucks for the pax-car HUD itself. There are different sources for the windshields. We took some sandblasting on the Buick last year and the new w/s is made by Saint Gobain-Sekurit and is marked 'HUD.' (something I had not checked before reading this thread--so the glass guy was honest.) The neighbor's C5 HUD w/s has a different trademark so there's no exclusive source for these. (Insurance company didn't grumble since I have $ 500 deductible and their portion was small change.) Circular polarizer screens are added to many aircraft and radar displays to reduce reflected light problems. Ambient light goes through the polarizer and when it reflects off the display face, little of it makes it back though the screen -- really hops up the contrast of the display. Polarization, itself has nothing to do with UV. It blocks (reduces) light reflected from plane surfaces. Hope this helps, -- mikeellison3xxxatzzzyahoo.com -- >Hmm.. learned something today.. and it's only 6 am... The polarized glasses >I have are marketed for divers. I wasn't aware of different polarization [quoted text clipped - 162 lines] >> >> >> >> > '68 L-79 Coupe >> >> >> >> > '79 Triumph Bonneville > Hello Stan- > You more brave than I on this. The dash rattle [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Hope this helps, > -- mikeellison3xxxatzzzyahoo.com -- One last comment on the HUD, after driving the 98 for over 6 years this 04 windshield reflexes every feature on the dash, the 98 did not. The outline of the projector, the air vents, and grill, very distracting. This dash is a lighter color than the 98 so that may also be a contributing factor. SignatureDad 04 C5 CE Z51 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd |
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