'88 w/ 4+3, took on a weekend trip to CA, after 12 hour highway drive,
clutch master cylinder was empty (no signs of leak), and clutch pedal pushed
to floor barely lets me shift. I filled the clutch master cylinder, and it
didn't seem to make a difference. I made it back on the highway and 12
hours back home (very little shifting involved fortunately), and took it to
the shop.
This shop (1) had replaced the clutch master cylinder less than two years
ago, and another shop (2) (both Corvette specialist - it's all they work on)
replaced the clutch/resurfaced the flywheel 6 months ago. After bleeding
the clutch hydrolic system several times, and testing the master and slave
cylinders, the problem of pressing the clutch pedal to the floor, and barely
being able to shift (not engaging the clutch fully) still exists. Shop 1
now thinks it may be a problem with the pressure plate that shop 2 replaced
6 months ago. Shop 1 called shop 2 to see about a warranty repair on their
new clutch, and shop 2 is insisting that the problem would be fixed by
replacing the master AND slave cylinders (this is why I stopped going to
shop 2 - they changed owners, and started repairing things that weren't
broken, and jacking up parts prices - and they couldn't diagnose a failed
vacuum brake booster after 2 weeks, and me picking up the car three times
with the brakes still not working properly).
Excuse the rant....
anybody run into a clutch problem like this??? no aparrant leaks, system
bled thoroughly (several times) - relatively new master cylinder, 6 month
old pressure plate, push the clutch pedal to the floor, still not engaging
the clutch enough to shift properly????
CCred68046 - 26 May 2004 17:25 GMT
>anybody run into a clutch problem like this??? no aparrant leaks, system
>bled thoroughly (several times) - relatively new master cylinder, 6 month
>old pressure plate, push the clutch pedal to the floor, still not engaging
>the clutch enough to shift properly????
I had a similar problem on a GMC truck.
We checked EVERYTHING and finally discovered the fork was bent.... I have NO
idea how this could happen but it was. Perhaps they can bend over time but that
is a pretty heavy duty piece in that truck.
Diode - 26 May 2004 21:03 GMT
CCred68046 spoke thusly:
> I had a similar problem on a GMC truck.
> We checked EVERYTHING and finally discovered the fork was bent.... I have NO
> idea how this could happen but it was. Perhaps they can bend over time but that
> is a pretty heavy duty piece in that truck.
The fork will bend if the clutch gets stuck. Actually pretty easy to do
with a hydraulic clutch...you get lots of leverage. Also sounds like a
fairly likely suspect as well.

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Larry Bud - 27 May 2004 13:50 GMT
> '88 w/ 4+3, took on a weekend trip to CA, after 12 hour highway drive,
> clutch master cylinder was empty (no signs of leak), and clutch pedal pushed
> to floor barely lets me shift. I filled the clutch master cylinder, and it
> didn't seem to make a difference. I made it back on the highway and 12
> hours back home (very little shifting involved fortunately), and took it to
> the shop.
So are you saying that the slave cylinder has NOT been replaced? Are
you still losing fluid?
If you're losing fluid and it's not apparent where it's coming from,
it's probably coming out of the back of the master cylinder. When
that happens, it just kinda drools down the clutch pedal, soaking into
the hush panel and anything else that absorbs fluid (carpeting).
What is the "feel" of the clutch pedal when pushed all the way down?
waltk@prodigy.net - 27 May 2004 23:18 GMT
I also have an 88 Vette 4+3 that had a problem - 92,000 miles. The bottom
line turned out to be a $1,592.23 repair bill to fix everything.
I didn't notice any problems before the failure - I had great difficulty
getting the car to go into any gear. I couldn't get it into 1st and had to
struggle to get it into 2nd with a lot of work, but finally drove it (slowly
trying not to shift) to the transmission shop. I know a few folks that used
this shop before, and they were happy with their work: P&B Transmission
Parlin, New Jersey 732 525-8898
They put in a new clutch disc pressure plate and throw out bearing. New
clutch master and slave cylinder, resurfaced the flywheel, seal (M/D Front),
seal (shifting metal clad), gasket set, & seal O/P, and engine rear main
seal.
The car is working great now...
Walt
John Leary - 29 May 2004 19:31 GMT
Well, after a third shop and third opinion, where the fluid went in the
first place is still a mystery, but a final bleeding got out all the air,
and now the clutch works great! General consensus is that the shop that
replaced the clutch 6 months ago, and was trying to sell me a new master and
slave cylinder (quoted me $400 in parts and $250 labor - never going there
again), had not bled the system properly in the first place, and a bubble
had finally worked into a part of the system that caused a problem.
Hope this helps somebody, and thanks for all the responses!
> '88 w/ 4+3, took on a weekend trip to CA, after 12 hour highway drive,
> clutch master cylinder was empty (no signs of leak), and clutch pedal pushed
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> old pressure plate, push the clutch pedal to the floor, still not engaging
> the clutch enough to shift properly????