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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Corvette / June 2004

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Bad MAF Symptoms for 89

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Black Bomb - 21 Jun 2004 14:48 GMT
Hi

I get code 36, but the car runs absolutely fine. How will I be able to guess
when it's time to replace the MAF sensor?

Thanks

Dan
89 Coupe Blk on Blk
Vetluver - 21 Jun 2004 16:23 GMT
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> Dan
> 89 Coupe Blk on Blk

There are many other things that can set a 36. MAF is probably OK if it's
running OK. I had a CEL from a 36 for years. It ran perfectly so I blew it
off. It finally quit running and so I replaced it and that helped.
Rob
Mike - 21 Jun 2004 17:08 GMT
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>Dan
>89 Coupe Blk on Blk

More likely it's a MAF Burnoff relay.  Less likely is a MAF Power
relay failure.  Dealer replaced mine about 5 years ago with the
comment that the originals weren't reliable.  Since the car had
less than 50K miles, GM picked up the cost of the relays
(emission control related).  I paid the $ 50 labor.

Last Detail has these for less than Eckler's.

Regards, "Mike"
-- mikeellison3xxxatzzzyahoo.com --
tater - 23 Jun 2004 11:35 GMT
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> Regards, "Mike"
> -- mikeellison3xxxatzzzyahoo.com --
I had the same thing happen to my 89.
The person that had it before me tried replacing the mass air unit but the
check light still was on.
( I think this is one reason I got such a good deal on it )
Then I found out in this group what the problem was.The burn off relay and
power relay are right behind the battery
on the firewall.
Called all the local shops here and nobody even new about them. Finally
called the local Chevy dealer and after
explaining to them were the parts were located on the car they now know what
the mass air burnoff and power relays
are!!
They are less than 15 bucks each at the Chevy dealer so I replaced both of
them,and no problems with it so far (3 years).
Hope this helps.
             Mike
JOEVET - 23 Jun 2004 19:59 GMT
what is the best way to check the codes?

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>               Mike
Black Bomb - 21 Jun 2004 17:51 GMT
Thanks Guys,,

I'll run it until it lets go...

Dan

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> Dan
> 89 Coupe Blk on Blk
Larry Bud - 23 Jun 2004 15:35 GMT
> Thanks Guys,,
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> I'll run it until it lets go...
>
> Dan

No, don't do that.  When you get an engine light, the car computer
goes into a default mode, called "limp home mode".  It retards the
timing and does some other things so the car just runs.  Your mileage
and performance will suffer.

As someone mentioned, it's probably the relays.  I seem to have to
replace mine every other year, so now I buy two of each at a time.
They're not that much.  You can still buy them at the dealership for
about $12 and $18 each (can't remember which one costs what).  Take 15
minutes to replace.  Couple bolts hold them on over by the battery.

Note that after you replace the burnoff relay, it might take a couple
of starts before the code goes away.  The burnoff relay clicks on when
the car is shut OFF.  I've apparently had enough crud on the MAF wire
where it took a couple of burnoff cycles to clean it throughly.
Black Bomb - 23 Jun 2004 16:20 GMT
Thanks Guys,,,

I'll replace those parts. Should I disconnect the battery for a few minutes
to delete the codes aswell?

Thanks

Dan

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> the car is shut OFF.  I've apparently had enough crud on the MAF wire
> where it took a couple of burnoff cycles to clean it throughly.
tater - 23 Jun 2004 22:42 GMT
The relays have the same part numbers so are the same price.
 I unplugged my battery for a few minutes after I replaced them and
everything is fine.
              Mike

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> > the car is shut OFF.  I've apparently had enough crud on the MAF wire
> > where it took a couple of burnoff cycles to clean it throughly.
 
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