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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Corvette / June 20042005 C6 Better than C5?
I hate to say this but the C6 looks not quite done. Those god awful Dodge Avenger lights are the worst and the rear looks like the design team ran out of money before they could finish. I think GM should wait another year and get it right before sending it to dealers although it may be too late at this point. I agree with you. Something's wrong with its looks. > I hate to say this but the C6 looks not quite done. Those god awful Dodge > Avenger lights are the worst and the rear looks like the design team ran out > of money before they could finish. I think GM should wait another year and > get it right before sending it to dealers although it may be too late at > this point. >I hate to say this but the C6 looks not quite done. Those god awful Dodge >Avenger lights are the worst and the rear looks like the design team ran out >of money before they could finish. I think GM should wait another year and >get it right before sending it to dealers although it may be too late at >this point. Form and function. Anything that does a better job of illuminating is a welcome change from the C5 headlights. > >I hate to say this but the C6 looks not quite done. Those god awful Dodge > >Avenger lights are the worst and the rear looks like the design team ran out [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Form and function. Anything that does a better job of illuminating is > a welcome change from the C5 headlights. Are they xenon in the C6? Since I got those headlights in our 2000 Acura TL, I almost can't stand to drive a car (like my wife's '96 Accord) with conventional lights at night. When I drive the 'Vette at night it's the same. After having owned one, I would never buy a car with automatic shoulder belts again, and I won't buy a car without xenon lights anymore. I like the side and rear look of the C6, but not so much the front. And adding a front license plate...well it looks awful. AJM '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp "Are they xenon in the C6?" Not sure what they are, but one article said they were "HID like and had equal light to 200 Watt lights" I changed all 4 bulbs in my C5 to the PIAA "Extreme White 4000 K" bulbs which claim to be 115W low beams and 135 W hi and that made for a world of difference. Not sure if I could ever get used to the C6's lights or gapping "mouth"  SignatureTedd Riggs Redmond, WA >> >I hate to say this but the C6 looks not quite done. Those god awful >> >Dodge [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > AJM > '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp > I hate to say this but the C6 looks not quite done. I have to say that I like the appearance of the C6 a lot. Chevy has done a great job with the new design. > I hate to say this but the C6 looks not quite done. Those god awful Dodge > Avenger lights are the worst and the rear looks like the design team ran out > of money before they could finish. I think GM should wait another year and > get it right before sending it to dealers although it may be too late at > this point. I guess it all depends on how you want to attack the C6. Some love the head lights, I don't, but it should save some weight. I think the rear end looks like a fat a.s American in spandex shorts. The mini retro fender look is a "lets try this, hold my beer" type of decision. The snout looks like Joan River's mouth after her next face lift, note the fuzz on her chin. The improved interior is a bone tossed to whiners that think rice and kraut have a better interior, it's still an accountant's interior. Basically it's a C5.1 like I've said before and comes nowhere near another generation designation. When you take a good look at what they did to the chassis, drive train, and the engine, I love it. I'm not talking about the ginger bread electronics but the mechanics that make it an a.s kicken Corvette. My order has been placed and I'm waiting on my confirmation number. SignatureDad 04 C5 CE Z51 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd I like the look of the C6 except for the rear. I said the same thing about the c5. Best looking rear ,imo, is the c4, which I own.But I wish I have a C5 or C6. gotta agree...mechanically the c6 easily wins over the c5, but the "swoopy" body style of the c5 is lost with the c6s headlights and chopped rear end. if the c6 had different headlights and did something different with the rear, i would buy it. imho, i love Corvettes for their combination of sexy body styles and performance. Geoffrey <Clipper965@hotmail.com> wrote: >I hate to say this but the C6 looks not quite done. Those god awful Dodge >Avenger lights are the worst and the rear looks like the design team ran out >of money before they could finish. I think GM should wait another year and >get it right before sending it to dealers although it may be too late at >this point. hey guys, u can't beat a C2 mid-year for looks, no matter which way u look at it!!! :-) regards Harry '64 coupe downunder > gotta agree...mechanically the c6 easily wins over the c5, but the > "swoopy" body style of the c5 is lost with the c6s headlights and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >get it right before sending it to dealers although it may be too late at > >this point. I was in OZ, in Sydney with a friend who lived in Abbottsville area, Saw a 79 Vette with the steering on the right, he said some company imports the gray market Vettes into OZ then converts them there. Do you know if your 64 was a factory RHD or was it a conversion? > hey guys, > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > >get it right before sending it to dealers although it may be too late at > > >this point. All right hand drives are conversions. All the mid years had was a look that some liked, their quality was only matched by the poor quality of the C3s during some of their worst years. Why did they move the plant? I assume you can say that you can't beat the C2 because you have driven one of each generation. SignatureDad 04 C5 CE Z51 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd > I was in OZ, in Sydney with a friend who lived in Abbottsville area, > Saw a 79 Vette with the steering on the right, he said some company [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > >get it right before sending it to dealers although it may be too late at > > > >this point. There was an article in Vette magazine about a "true" right hand drive C3. The guy actually did a complete conversion with moving the complete steering assembly, pedal assembly, Underhood A/C components to the right, then offsetting the driveline to the left to make room. And used a steering box out of a Holden. Mucho Money and Mucho Time involved. I have a friend that lives in Carnes. A car nut. According to him those conversions drive like crap. He is amazed just how well right hand drive originals actually drove, compared to the conversions of the same make/model, when he came to the US to visit. >All right hand drives are conversions. All the mid years had was a look that >some liked, their quality was only matched by the poor quality of the C3s >during some of their worst years. Why did they move the plant? I assume you >can say that you can't beat the C2 because you have driven one of each >generation. > SignatureRic Seyler Not sure what you're saying. As far as I know GM never built a right hand drive Corvette for sale to the public. So how can a conversion be a "true" right hand drive? How can this be, "He is amazed just how well right hand drive originals actually drove, compared to the conversions of the same make/model, when he came to the US to visit."?????? --- did you mean left hand drive? SignatureDad 04 C5 CE Z51 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd > There was an article in Vette magazine > about a "true" right hand drive C3. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >can say that you can't beat the C2 because you have driven one of each > >generation. LOL True in the sense that those "conversions" generally use a chain & sprockets to connect the steering wheel (now mounted on the right) to the original steering column on the left. And the pedals generally use a set of jackshafts or cables to connect the pedal set (now on the right) to the master cylinder, clutch linkage and accell on the left. Lots of slop and incorrect leverage generally occurs. And this feller had everything "properly connected" by actually moving all the related components to the right. No GM didn't build it. But dang sure looks factory in all aspects, when you compare it to regular "conversions". >Not sure what you're saying. As far as I know GM never built a right hand >drive Corvette for sale to the public. So how can a conversion be a "true" [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >actually drove, compared to the conversions of the same make/model, when he >came to the US to visit."?????? --- did you mean left hand drive? Yea, I meant factory left had drives here in the US. :-) > SignatureRic Seyler The old Silver King tractor had a chain steering system and if that is how some of the right hand drive conversions were controlled I'll walk, thank you. SignatureDad 04 C5 CE Z51 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd > LOL > True in the sense that those "conversions" generally use a chain & [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > Yea, I meant factory left had drives here in the US. :-) That's how it's done. Chains and jackshafts with the original components still on the left of vehicle & chassis. A good way to think of it is how the Right side controls are added to a crappy Driver's Ed Car. It make's sense why my Carnes buddy was impressed with the US models :-) >The old Silver King tractor had a chain steering system and if that is how >some of the right hand drive conversions were controlled I'll walk, thank >you. > SignatureRic Seyler > That's how it's done. Chains and jackshafts with the original components > still on the left of vehicle & chassis. > A good way to think of it is how the Right side controls are added to a > crappy Driver's Ed Car. We didn't have a right side control, and another kid in my class and I had a bet that whoever got it up to 100 MPH first won. For reasons unbeknownst to me I passed the course and won the bet (D-). SignatureDad 04 C5 CE Z51 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd hey James, like one of the other guy's said, i believe no corvette was built right hand drive. i heard rumor's a few years ago that some RHD parts where available from the factory or aftermarket for the C3's onwards but it's probably bullshit; i haven't bothered to confirm it. mine is still LHD, as where i am down south in Melbourne, 30 year and older vehikles are allowed full registration. it's not too bad driving on the left side of the road in a LHD as long as common sense prevails in a few driving aspects. there may come a time, when funds allow or the law changes, that a RHD conversion takes place, but for now it stays as it is. regards Harry '64 big tank coupe downunder > I was in OZ, in Sydney with a friend who lived in Abbottsville area, > Saw a 79 Vette with the steering on the right, he said some company [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > > >get it right before sending it to dealers although it may be too late at > > > >this point. hmmmm spoke thusly: > '64 big tank coupe downunder Wow, you have a "big tank" car. I've heard that those are pretty rare beasts. I saw one in a shop going for $150K (US). The car was in nice shape and it's a BB, but the big tank is what's driving the price up. SignatureShut up, Dave. -|>|- Diode -|<|- '68 L-79 Coupe '79 Triumph Bonneville > hmmmm spoke thusly: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > beasts. I saw one in a shop going for $150K (US). The car was in nice > shape and it's a BB, but the big tank is what's driving the price up. hey Diode, re: $$$ , it's good to hear these things every so often while we still have our car's as it makes us feel better, thanks mate ;-) as for the big tank...i think it's called "ignorance is bliss"!!! as long as i stay away from any petrol price discussions and the wallet is heavy enuf, then i'm out cruizin' as often as i can. regards Harry '64 coupe downunda >I hate to say this but the C6 looks not quite done. Those god awful Dodge >Avenger lights are the worst and the rear looks like the design team ran out >of money before they could finish. I think GM should wait another year and >get it right before sending it to dealers although it may be too late at >this point. My thinking is that the C6 is a compromise. Made so that GM could share chassis components with the Cadillac that they are building along side of the Corvette. To me that dilutes the uniqueness and originality of the Corvette. Think about it, since its inception Corvette has been a Car the was its own entity. It did not share its body with any other of GM's products. It was all alone in its design. America's only Sports Car. It is no longer that, It's design must now take into consideration it's sister car (or cousin) the Cadillac, which is moving into its market It also makes the C-5 the last Corvette built as a unique platform. Fred > My thinking is that the C6 is a compromise. Made so that GM could > share chassis components with the Cadillac that they are building [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Fred You just had to bring that up didn't you Fred. Looks like GM is trying as hard as they can to kill what the Corvette means to it's owners. How many of it's illegitimate sisters have you seen on the road? When will GM say that the Bowling Green plant is not profitable and shut it down? Just one case sticks in my mind right now, the 1959 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz that was sold for half of what it cost to build. Great marketing strategy if you want to create a death spiral. As luck would have it only 1320 were built and GM survived to screw up another day. What else can be said, oh, Cimmaron, Allanti, and their answer to the question that wasn't ask, the ever popular, Buick Reatta. Maybe we need a 4 door model like the Thunderbird needed to start it's dive to nowhere. Look at how they handled the Oldsmobile Cutlass's success, all the way from the top seller in the seventies to the cellar in 2004. Now lets throw into the mix Mr. Bob Klutz that all of the bobble heads are saying how he will make GM soar. Well that won't happen, he's is now and always will be a money man and it's his money not the company's welfare that he's interested in. If he don't have the same amount of talented people willing to give up their soul and their home life to keep his stupid ideas inline GM will assume the Oldsmobile direction. No, I didn't forget the Fiero, it's just not worth mentioning along with a number of others. SignatureDad 04 C5 CE Z51 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd > > My thinking is that the C6 is a compromise. Made so that GM could > > share chassis components with the Cadillac that they are building [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > No, I didn't forget the Fiero, it's just not worth mentioning along with a > number of others. And they managed to turn kids from hopping up Camaros and Firebirds to hopping up Civics, Eclipses and the like. And Neons. AJM '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp I think it was necesarry. The Alante flopped because it had too many proprietary parts thus making it too costly to build. I am shocked Cadillac did not build a 2 seater roadster using the 1992 + Eldorado platform. The XLR is a nice car but for a few pennies more you can buy a 500SL or BMW 7 Coupe. I doubt it will last long. I am also sure Cadillac will join Packard, Duesenberg, Pierce-Arrow, and a host of other American luxury car brands once the WWII/Korea generation who make up 99% of Cadillac buyers passes from the scene. > >I hate to say this but the C6 looks not quite done. Those god awful Dodge > >Avenger lights are the worst and the rear looks like the design team ran out [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Fred I would have to agree. For a car that is "new" and goes by "C6", I think something differant should have been done. This car seems more like an evolutionally step rather than a revolutionary one. For one, I think the POP-UP headlight should have stayed. (Maybe with some projector bulbs in them.) As for the overall design.... not bad but I don't care for that huge hole in the front nose. I would have prefered it if they had made it where it came to a smooth slanted point with no holes in it. Let it be a bottom breather!!! > I hate to say this but the C6 looks not quite done. Those god awful Dodge > Avenger lights are the worst and the rear looks like the design team ran out > of money before they could finish. I think GM should wait another year and > get it right before sending it to dealers although it may be too late at > this point. |
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