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Rear Window 2005 Coupe

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Bubba1 - 11 Apr 2005 01:38 GMT
Just wondering if anyone has heard of this. My 2005 vette was sitting
in my driveway 62 degrees outside temp for about 20 minutes. I was
cleaning the rear plate frame when the rear window exploded. All the
windows were closed at the time and it made the same sound as if you
threw a match in  a can of gasoline. I did catch this on a security
video but that shows nothing other than the window imploding. Any
known causes? Has anyone ever heard of this?  Thanks
benf802961@aol.com - 11 Apr 2005 02:30 GMT
Years ago it was over 100 degrees out. I walk out to car, open door and
my back windshield shattered into a million pieces. It stayed intact. I
took a pic, showed a neighbor before it crumbled.
Vandervecken - 11 Apr 2005 03:24 GMT
H'm.

Pure speculation: Possibly there are fitup issues with those curved
windows and it was installed stressed. A little thermal movement of the
window frame might have been the last straw for it. Was there perhaps
bright sunshine hitting the car from one side or quarter, causing uneven
heating around the window?

I'd also wonder if there's any possibility at all that it got hit by a
stray BB shot or something.

-- Vandervecken

> Just wondering if anyone has heard of this. My 2005 vette was sitting
> in my driveway 62 degrees outside temp for about 20 minutes. I was
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> video but that shows nothing other than the window imploding. Any
> known causes? Has anyone ever heard of this?  Thanks
StingRay - 11 Apr 2005 04:28 GMT
> H'm.
>
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> -- Vandervecken

Right on Vandervecken! My son heard his rear window shatter as he walked
away from his car one night. He immediately assumed that it had just blown
out for some unexplained reason.  Then he saw several other cars in the lot
of his apartment building with cracked glass. He called the cops who napped
a kid with a BB gun in a neighboring apartment building.
Tom Howlin - 11 Apr 2005 03:31 GMT
> Just wondering if anyone has heard of this. My 2005 vette was sitting
> in my driveway 62 degrees outside temp for about 20 minutes. I was
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> video but that shows nothing other than the window imploding. Any
> known causes? Has anyone ever heard of this?  Thanks

One of the techs at the factory was trying to explain to me the bonding
process for rear window that lets it "float".  Done incorrectly, the
stresses of heating/cooling can't be absorbed and the tempered glass
lets loose all at once.  These movements are minor but still need to be
allowed for.  Now, how badly were you hurt by the negligence of the
manufacturer that is now captured on video?  That bad, huh.  Just
kidding but it might cause some puckering if you sent a copy of the
video to GM and a letter explaining how you are now afraid to drive the
coupe because it could happen again and perhaps they would like to put
you in a fully optioned 2006 convertible (or a ZO6 vert when they are
released!) to alleviate your anxiety - worth a try.

05 Mag Red, rear window intact.
Bubba1 - 11 Apr 2005 05:24 GMT
>> Just wondering if anyone has heard of this. My 2005 vette was sitting
>> in my driveway 62 degrees outside temp for about 20 minutes. I was
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>05 Mag Red, rear window intac

I was just glad that it happened at home and was lucky that my
security camera caught it. The tape only had a very few minutes left
and when I realized that the tape may have gotten it,  the tape was
ejecten from the player. When I pushed in the tape it was just at the
point of the police pulling in, for my insurence, I had to have a
police report for glass coverage. I wouldn't beneifit from the tape
because I do not sue people I believe that the sue me sue you laws are
destroying our country, and the people that have a real lawsuit . For
honest and actual damages are put through a ringer. I had glass in my
eyes so a washed it out end of story. What the video did was show the,
was that  the  car was not abused,the hatch wasn't open and slammed
shut. or I didn't puy the can of wax on the window or any other dumb
things that we all do from time to time. My only thought after being a
lurker hear for a long time was with the vast amount of knowledge
found on this news group someone may have heard of this being a
problem. I may send the dvd to GM to show them what happened if I can
find the correct person to send it to. It may have been a freak
accident or may be something for GM to take a look at. This would have
been a totally different story if it popped in a movie theater lot . I
would have ssorn that it had to have been some kid. Sorry this is long
but I needed a vent and you all seem to know your vettes so well I
feel that you are the true experts... Thanks Again Bill
Dad - 11 Apr 2005 05:48 GMT
> Just wondering if anyone has heard of this. My 2005 vette was sitting
> in my driveway 62 degrees outside temp for about 20 minutes. I was
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> video but that shows nothing other than the window imploding. Any
> known causes? Has anyone ever heard of this?  Thanks

When I was in the plant last Sept. they were having an issue with some rear
hatches and the window installation. There were a few sitting around in
different stages of completion that they were working on. What the exact
problem was is unknown to me but it did relate to the gluing process and/or
fit.

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Dad
05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd

Bubba1 - 13 Apr 2005 02:12 GMT
>> Just wondering if anyone has heard of this. My 2005 vette was sitting
>> in my driveway 62 degrees outside temp for about 20 minutes. I was
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>problem was is unknown to me but it did relate to the gluing process and/or
>fit.

That's interesting, my car was made in Sept 04,  #2559
Dad - 13 Apr 2005 04:08 GMT
>>When I was in the plant last Sept. they were having an issue with some
>>rear
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> That's interesting, my car was made in Sept 04,  #2559

That's odd, so was mine # 4045 although I don't know the day.

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05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd

Bubba1 - 13 Apr 2005 06:17 GMT
>>>When I was in the plant last Sept. they were having an issue with some
>>>rear
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>That's odd, so was mine # 4045 although I don't know the day.

My neighbor has  #720 and has had many small problems and a few major
that were fixed ASAP. One was the breaklines  running to close to the
exhaust and another was a yellow cable that controlled the driver
seat. They were taken care of very quickly howewver he was told when
he bought the car that it was a presentation model so he may have some
problems. When he picked up his 05 it didn't have the outside emblems
on it, they took a week to get. Also he was told that the first 700
cars went to Canada and Europe. I do remember him driving the car very
early July / Augusty 04 and I had been calling around and no one  in
CT/NJ/NY had any to sell. He still breaks em off a little on that one
but it's all in fun. One last thing when he picked up his car it only
had 3 miles on it so it wasn't used as a demo I guess.
Leonard Lehew - 11 Apr 2005 12:13 GMT
ed, rear window intac

>I was just glad that it happened at home and was lucky that my
>security camera caught it. The tape only had a very few minutes left
>and when I realized that the tape may have gotten it,  the tape was
>ejecten from the player. When I pushed in the tape it was just at the
>point of the police pulling in, for my insurence, I had to have a
>police report for glass coverage.
I think this should be covered by warranty. The most likely cause is a
manufacturing defect in the glass. There are a lot of Corvettes out
there that sit in hot sun for hours without the glass cracking.

Good luck!
anyuser@comcast.net - 22 Apr 2005 04:13 GMT
>ed, rear window intac
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>
>Good luck!
    I agree with Mr. Lehew and the cost of the rear hatch glass
has got to be pricey. I'd be a very unhappy customer if my dealer
wasn't expiditing new glass along withthe factory installation support
needed for the service department to get this car right. It's a Vette,
you pay more, and you expect more. Your insurance shouldn't pay for
GM's Q.C. issues.
Bubba1 - 22 Apr 2005 17:34 GMT
>>ed, rear window intac
>>>
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>you pay more, and you expect more. Your insurance shouldn't pay for
>GM's Q.C. issues.

The dealer did cover the glass and labor however if I didn't have the
glass breaking on video it may have been another story. At the time
the glass broke there were only six replacement or spare windows
worldwide so I was lucky the car didn't sit around for months. Every
day I thank God that I had a security camera and video on the car.
Last thought ,the rear window cost was $730.00 plus shipping if I had
to go that route.
sbright - 12 Apr 2005 10:18 GMT
Re: Sue me sue you

I know what you're saying and I agree for the most part.  However, the rest
of that story is that
both sides would step up to the plate and do the right thing.

Seat tracks on a C5, coating coming off of the targa tops, steeering column
locks (5 years to put the recal out for year 2000??) these are all "issues"
that I feel GM should step up to the plate on, but they haven't. (Aside from
the steering lock- I dont think they had a choice on that one.)

-Stan

>>> Just wondering if anyone has heard of this. My 2005 vette was sitting
>>> in my driveway 62 degrees outside temp for about 20 minutes. I was
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> but I needed a vent and you all seem to know your vettes so well I
> feel that you are the true experts... Thanks Again Bill

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