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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Corvette / June 2005

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'87 C4 - A/C: Recharge stock or convert to new refrigerant?

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Ed Berns - 11 Jun 2005 21:18 GMT
Hi all,

My '87 coupe's A/C is blowing cool but not cold so should I recharge the
original A/C and keep the setup all original for that future collector or
convert to the new refrigerant (R12 vs R34?)?

Surprise, surprise, the cost at local garages (for recharge or conversion)
and the nearby Chevy dealership (conversion only) is exactly the same --
$200.

Thoughts??

Best to all.

Ed B.
dave - 12 Jun 2005 13:19 GMT
What is involved in the conversion for $200  ?    I think it would be a
selling point to a future owner if it was upgraded because once R12 is
gone...its gone forever.
dave - 12 Jun 2005 13:20 GMT
By the way, its R134  (and not R34).
Bob I - 13 Jun 2005 00:49 GMT
To actually be correct it is R134a used as the R12 replacement.

> By the way, its R134  (and not R34).
Greg - 12 Jun 2005 17:28 GMT
stick with r-12, cools better, in your system and it has a lower temp/
pressure curve.

>Hi all,
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>Ed B.
Paul H. - 13 Jun 2005 16:42 GMT
This is an annual topic for this NG.  Last year someone mentioned FR-12
as being the solution to everyone's problem. (Higher cooling capacity
than R134a, lower head pressure than R-12, ozone OK, no great conversion
cost, etc. etc.)  These are some current web pages that take some of the
gloss from FR12.  (keep in mind that there may be some "sour grapes"
here from outfits that don't want the expense of handling three
refrigerants)

http://www.refimax.com/products/fr12.htm

http://www.autofrost.com/oil/

http://store.lenzdist.com/product.php?xProd=720

My A/C guy (Griffin's in San Diego) still has me on R-12 and doesn't
want to convert older Corvettes to R134a because of the high heat load
in the car.  Last summer I asked him about FR-12 and he said he wanted
to wait.  I'm cool for now and don't plan on another complete service
till next year.  (Meanwhile the system is loaded with R-12 and a
florescent dye -- Costs a few bucks to shine the black light on it every
couple of months to spot minor leaks before they cause me to mortgage
the farm.)

Anyone else have any FR-12 experience ???

Paul H.

> stick with r-12, cools better, in your system and it has a lower temp/
> pressure curve.
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>>Ed B.
Greg - 13 Jun 2005 19:02 GMT
fr-12? freeze 12 is that what you are refering to? if so i have a lot.
of experience with it.

>This is an annual topic for this NG.  Last year someone mentioned FR-12
>as being the solution to everyone's problem. (Higher cooling capacity
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>>>Ed B.
WayneC - 13 Jun 2005 19:23 GMT
> fr-12? freeze 12 is that what you are refering to? if so i have a lot.
> of experience with it.

Based on the second link that Paul H. gave, FR-12 and freeeze 12 are
different products.

But, what WAS your experience???
Greg - 15 Jun 2005 00:01 GMT
it works ok, not as good as r-12 and it runs at a little higher
pressure than r-12, we use it in fords for the most parts because of
the spring lock connectors that are very prone to leak

>> fr-12? freeze 12 is that what you are refering to? if so i have a lot.
>> of experience with it.
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>But, what WAS your experience???
Ed Berns - 14 Jun 2005 03:39 GMT
Hi all,

Thanks for the great info. I'll post results when I make the final decision.

Ed B.

> Hi all,
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> Ed B.
 
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