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Barking Rats - 24 Jun 2005 06:29 GMT Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks have owned their current Corvette.
To start the ball rolling, I bought my '67 from a PA State Trooper going through a divorce in '79. Wow, hard to believe it's been 26 years we've been together - lasted longer by far than *his* marriage. :) Criminey, that's more than half my lifetime.
My '72 is just a mistress by comparison - only 16 years. (I must like buying during the last year of the decade - though it appears I missed the calling in '99. Here's looking forward to '09!)
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Bob G. - 24 Jun 2005 13:06 GMT >Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks have owned their >current Corvette. My 79 was purchased in 1983 My 72 was purchased in 1985 My 76 was purchased in 1989 My 64 was purchased in 1993 My 95 was purchased in 1999
All still in the garage...
Bob Griffiths.
Grayfox - 24 Jun 2005 14:33 GMT >>Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks have owned their >>current Corvette. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Bob Griffiths. "All still in the garage"!!! Can't get them started? *lol*
Bob G. - 24 Jun 2005 21:35 GMT >>>Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks have owned their >>>current Corvette. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >"All still in the garage"!!! Can't get them started? *lol* ==================================================== Have no fea.... they all will start right up, and all drive just fine..
I will admit each has a couple of little things I have to get after this winter...nothing however that would stop me from using any for a 500 mile trip this afternoon... Seriously each gets driven at least once a week for at least 25 miles... between April and November then they stay inside during the winter however.....
I sold my SS 396 Chevelle about a month ago , so I have room in the garage for a Used C5... .Did not see anything today at The GM Nationals in Carlisle today... So I will continue to look....no rush when I see one I like at the right price I'll open my wallet...
Bob Griffiths
BDragon - 24 Jun 2005 20:11 GMT > >Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks have owned their > >current Corvette. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Bob Griffiths. Picked up a wreck of a '77 in 1999. Today, I own a great running, no-problems, catch-the-eye '77. And I don't even miss the million dollars it took to get it this way.
Barking Rats - 25 Jun 2005 17:37 GMT > My 79 was purchased in 1983 Hi Bob - it appears that at this point, I'm the "old guy" on the block at 26 years ownership of the same Corvette. You young wippersnappers...
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CardsFan - 24 Jun 2005 15:21 GMT > Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks have owned their > current Corvette. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Here's waving to ya - \|||| I've owned the1993 for about a year and a half. I thought I'd be further along with its rehabilitation by now, but that's the way it goes. I want to get all the mechanical issues taken care of before I have it painted...
AJM '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
larrybud2002@yahoo.com - 24 Jun 2005 20:19 GMT > Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks have owned their > current Corvette. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > buying during the last year of the decade - though it appears I missed > the calling in '99. Here's looking forward to '09!) 13 years. 1986, bought with 43k miles in '92, now has 175k.
Vandervecken - 24 Jun 2005 22:25 GMT Five weeks, but it still seems like new to me.
-- Vandervecken
Dave in Lake Villa - 24 Jun 2005 23:34 GMT Owen, Ive had my 1970 T Top Coupe, 454 , 4 speed, since 1997. It is my second 1970 ; my first was a 350 cid Convertible with auto trans. I bought that one from a guy located 5 miles away -- the car used to be his wifes. I bought the 454 cid one from a guy located 50 miles away who started a restoration on it but ran out of money due to getting a divorce. I finished the frameup restoration including a Motor buildup which took me from stock of 390 h.p/500 tq. to : 540 h.p/600 tq. Believe it or not, i get 14 mpg on the highway at 70 mph. I dont plan on selling this one, as, it is escalating in price very quickly and is in a solid number 2 condition ; if i ever did sell it, it would be to buy a '06 ZO6 about 5-10 years from now.
Barking Rats - 25 Jun 2005 17:36 GMT > Motor buildup > which took me from stock of 390 h.p/500 tq. to : 540 h.p/600 tq. > Believe it or not, i get 14 mpg on the highway at 70 mph. I've got to tackle a 10 year wait in rebuilding the engine in my '72 very soon. It's a 454 that was downrated in '72 to 270hp (? as I recall) - what modifications did you make to get 540hp? I assume you're running premium gas - any problems with pinging?
At this point I'm looking at a basic factory-stock rebuild but am considering bumping the compression a tad. I believe stock was 8.25:1 for '72 - considering increasing to 9.5 or so. Anyone think that would be worth it in seat of the pants feel? (The setup is 3.08 rear, auto-trans, fully optioned (meaning heavy and lots of power accessories.)
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Dave in Lake Villa - 25 Jun 2005 19:42 GMT 'I've got to tackle a 10 year wait in rebuilding the engine in my '72 very soon. It's a 454 that was downrated in '72 to 270hp (? as I recall) - what modifications did you make to get 540hp? I assume you're running premium gas - any problems with pinging?'
ME: Owen, Remember that the 270 h.p on your vette is 'RWHP', so gross h.p. on that is roughly 310 . The mods i did to get me from 390 gross hp to 540 were : New Edelbrock Oval Port Heads which have huge ports and valves compared to stock, New Edelbrock AirGap Dual Plane Intake which has huge runners versus stock, Demon 850 cfm, dp, mech. sec. Carb , new Hydr. Lunati aggressive Roller cam/roller lifters/roller rockers , Hooker Super Comp. Headers , 100 % fresh air thru L88 hood and plenum, twin electric radiator fans which dont come on if im moving at least 35 mph and its less than 80 f. outside, and running motor at 180 f. instead of running at stock of 190 f. My buildup was mostly patterned after author Hib Halversons successive articles called : BIg Block from Hell series.
'At this point I'm looking at a basic factory-stock rebuild but am considering bumping the compression a tad. I believe stock was 8.25:1 for '72 - considering increasing to 9.5 or so. Anyone think that would be worth it in seat of the pants feel?'
ME: No..i dont believe it will afford you that seat of the pants feel Owen ; I think youre going to have to shoot higher if you want that thrown back in the seat feeling when you mash it. The best single think you could do , is to pop for new Oval Port Heads.
'The setup is 3.08 rear, auto-trans, fully optioned (meaning heavy and lots of power accessories.)'
ME: If you want good low end torque, you need to do a rear gear changeout. Mine was a stock 3:36 --- a 370 made a big difference. However, if you do alot of highway driving with your vette, keep your 3.08.
Barking Rats - 27 Jun 2005 19:00 GMT > 'At this point I'm looking at a basic factory-stock rebuild but am > considering bumping the compression a tad. I believe stock was 8.25:1 [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > However, if you do alot of highway driving with your vette, keep your > 3.08. You know, even with the stock 454 setup and the auto/3.08 rear it was a very strong puller - (been apart for 13 years now so maybe my memory's a little kind but that's how I remember it). I really don't want to make any mods that will affect the stock appearance of the engine and I don't want to make the internals too radical that it's finicky and not comfortable to drive. Just wondering about tweaking compression a tad since I gotta replace the pistons anyway.
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Owen ___
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dave - 28 Jun 2005 03:40 GMT 'Just wondering about tweaking compression a tad since I gotta replace the pistons anyway. Here's waving to ya - \|||| Owen'
ME: Id certainly bump up the Compression with piston replacements ; you may notice a little improvement on torque..but, it wont be neck-snapping.
RicSeyler - 30 Jun 2005 20:27 GMT And end up with LESS torque...... Bumping up compression will get him right into detonation, with the only remedy being backing off the static timing and the advance curve..... thus less torque. (unless someone wants to fuss with octane boosters every fill up)
IF he goes with aluminum heads he can jump up .5 to 1 point max.
>'Just wondering about tweaking compression a tad since I gotta replace >the pistons anyway. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >
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Jon - 24 Jun 2005 23:54 GMT > Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks have owned their > current Corvette. It was one year June 5th- put 14,000 miles on it.
Crabs - 25 Jun 2005 00:08 GMT > Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks have owned their > current Corvette. Bought my first 'Vette 3 months ago. 1990 ZR1 Red/Saddle interior 9700 unmolested original miles
Still can't wipe the smirk off of my face. ;-)
Tom
Dave in Lake Villa - 25 Jun 2005 12:55 GMT 'Bought my first 'Vette 3 months ago. 1990 ZR1 Red/Saddle interior 9700 unmolested original miles Still can't wipe the smirk off of my face. ;-) Tom '
Reply: Tom, Ive always been partial to ZR1's ; id be very interested to know what you paid for yours with such low miles . Thanks.
Bob G. - 25 Jun 2005 15:05 GMT >'Bought my first 'Vette 3 months ago. >1990 ZR1 >Red/Saddle interior >9700 unmolested original miles >Still can't wipe the smirk off of my face. ;-) >Tom ' ============================== I like the ZR1's myself...but to be honest I backed away from them because of my fear...real or not? that getting parts would or could...? be a nightmare...
Whats everyones opinion ?....
Bob Griffiths
Crabs - 26 Jun 2005 06:56 GMT >>'Bought my first 'Vette 3 months ago. >>1990 ZR1 [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Bob Griffiths Bob:
So far, haven't needed any. There's only one thing I need to take care of and that is a noisy throw out bearing. I suspect that it's dried out from just not enough use over the last 15 years. You can still order (some) parts from the local Chevy dealer, there's plenty of resources on the web, and also occasional interesting items on eBay. As far as the motor, it appears to be bullet proof if properly maintained. I've seen many ZR1's with bags of miles on them. Body parts seem to be more difficult to find, but if a guy is careful (and lucky) you won't need 'em.
TomC '90 ZR1
RicSeyler - 30 Jun 2005 20:28 GMT Bob, I've read in about every Vette publication that many engine parts are getting VERY VERY VERY scarce. With all the ZR1s being autocrossed and raced.
> > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Bob Griffiths >
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Crabs - 26 Jun 2005 06:49 GMT > 'Bought my first 'Vette 3 months ago. > 1990 ZR1 [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Reply: Tom, Ive always been partial to ZR1's ; id be very interested > to know what you paid for yours with such low miles . Thanks. Dave:
Lots. But no where near as much as the original owner. ;-)
Tom
dave - 26 Jun 2005 17:49 GMT 'Dave: Lots. But no where near as much as the original owner. ;-) Tom'
ME: Tom, Can u put that into U.S. Dollars ? Theres a motivated seller of a 1990 ZR1 for sale near me with 17,000 miles on it in excellent condition ; id like to compare prices. Thanks, Dave
Crabs - 27 Jun 2005 06:59 GMT > 'Dave: > Lots. But no where near as much as the original owner. ;-) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > of a 1990 ZR1 for sale near me with 17,000 miles on it in excellent > condition ; id like to compare prices. Thanks, Dave Dave:
Nope. I will not disclose the purchase amount. I bought the car from a childhood friend who shall we say is far more fortunate than most.
Offer what you can comfortably afford. If it's not enough, oh well. Just remember, the people who bought these from the dealer paid AT LEAST $65,000 USD, 15 years ago. If they had put that money as a down payment on a house, it would probably be worth 4 or 5 times as much today. It was not a wise investment. Perhaps in a few more years they will increase in value, as the big block C3's have, but until they do, it will be a sore point for the original owners.
TomC
dave - 27 Jun 2005 13:32 GMT What are some things to consider that are specific to '1990' ZR1's when examining the car ? Wasnt 1990 the first year for them ? The engine is a Lotus design, correct ? Did GM beef up the Trans to accomodate the additional engine power of the ZR1 ? When do u suppose they will turn around and start to appreciate ... when they are roughly 25 years old ? Which do u think it more collectable for an investment : a 1990 ZR1 or a 1990 Callaway ?
Thanks for the info
Dave
Crabs - 27 Jun 2005 14:04 GMT > What are some things to consider that are specific to '1990' ZR1's when > examining the car ? Wasnt 1990 the first year for them ? The engine [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Dave Dave: 1990 was the first year offered to the public. There were a few 1989 model year Corvettes with the LT5 engine installed for testing purposes. Most if not all were destroyed, and were never offered to the public. Lotus engineered the engine, Mercury Marine of Stillwater OK built them. The transmission is a ZF, made specially for the LT5. It was designed to handle the output of the engine with plenty of growing room to spare. There are people running stroked LT5's to 421 cubic inches producing 550+ HP who are still using the stock transmission and rear end. As far as turning the curve on appreciation, it may be some time. It's really difficult to say. There are so few ZR1's around, most people don't even know what they are. They have no idea that it was the fastest production street machine for it's time. It's taken 15 years for GM and Dodge to produce anything comparable. The Z06 Corvette and the Viper RT10. Collectable as an investment, hmmm... I'd guess a stock 1995 ZR1 with low miles. The Callaway TT's, Sledge Hammer and Snake Skinners were aftermarket packages by companies other than the manufacturer. Sure they are rarer, but they're aren't original.
TomC
Charlie - 27 Jun 2005 17:00 GMT I hate to break it to you, but Callaway was a GM option at one time that you ordered through the dealer. Not exactly an aftermarket system if you ordered one that way. The trick is finding an original Callaway ordered through GM.
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dave wrote:
Dave: 1990 was the first year offered to the public. There were a few 1989 model year Corvettes with the LT5 engine installed for testing purposes. Most if not all were destroyed, and were never offered to the public. Lotus engineered the engine, Mercury Marine of Stillwater OK built them. The transmission is a ZF, made specially for the LT5. It was designed to handle the output of the engine with plenty of growing room to spare. There are people running stroked LT5's to 421 cubic inches producing 550+ HP who are still using the stock transmission and rear end. As far as turning the curve on appreciation, it may be some time. It's really difficult to say. There are so few ZR1's around, most people don't even know what they are. They have no idea that it was the fastest production street machine for it's time. It's taken 15 years for GM and Dodge to produce anything comparable. The Z06 Corvette and the Viper RT10. Collectable as an investment, hmmm... I'd guess a stock 1995 ZR1 with low miles. The Callaway TT's, Sledge Hammer and Snake Skinners were aftermarket packages by companies other than the manufacturer. Sure they are rarer, but they're aren't original.
TomC
dave - 28 Jun 2005 03:37 GMT Thanks Tom for the info and enlightenment. ZR1's are certainly interesting.
Dave
Crabs - 28 Jun 2005 17:54 GMT > ZR1's are certainly interesting. > > Dave Wait 'till you drive one. ;-)
TomC
RicSeyler - 30 Jun 2005 20:30 GMT And Callaway's are going for crazy money at Barret Jackson type of auctions
>I hate to break it to you, but Callaway was a GM option at one time that you >ordered through the dealer. Not exactly an aftermarket system if you >ordered one that way. The trick is finding an original Callaway ordered >through GM. > >
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Charlie - 01 Jul 2005 00:36 GMT Yeah, they seem to hold there value.
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And Callaway's are going for crazy money at Barret Jackson type of auctions
Charlie wrote:
>I hate to break it to you, but Callaway was a GM option at one time that >you ordered through the dealer. Not exactly an aftermarket system if you >ordered one that way. The trick is finding an original Callaway ordered >through GM.
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George Csahanin - 25 Jun 2005 00:55 GMT Bought my 92 with LT-1 Red/Red in August 1997 at 43,000 miles, now at 126,000
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> Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks have owned their > current Corvette. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > "To know the world intimately is the beginning of caring." > -- Ann Hayman Zwinger JOEVET - 25 Jun 2005 16:03 GMT Bought my '86 in 2003 and it was a mess. Looks /runs great now though after alot of work. Learned alot about Vettes in the past few years with a little help from this forum. The Vette will never be "finished" though :) No regrets!
> Bought my 92 with LT-1 Red/Red in August 1997 at 43,000 miles, now at > 126,000 [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > "To know the world intimately is the beginning of caring." > > -- Ann Hayman Zwinger W. Moore - 25 Jun 2005 21:39 GMT I bought my '75 in 1977, with S.E.A. war games combat pay, from a chevy mechanic who wanted a silver anniversary addition. I drive it weekly.
> Bought my '86 in 2003 and it was a mess. Looks /runs great now though > after alot of work. Learned alot about Vettes in the past few years with a [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > "To know the world intimately is the beginning of caring." > > > -- Ann Hayman Zwinger Barking Rats - 27 Jun 2005 18:55 GMT In article <vijve.1025885$w62.1022376@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> I bought my '75 in 1977, with S.E.A. war games combat pay, from a chevy > mechanic who wanted a silver anniversary addition. I drive it weekly. Well W. looks like you're the WINNER at 28 years!
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Scubabix - 26 Jun 2005 00:54 GMT > Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks have owned their > current Corvette. 78 Coupe, my first Vette in October 2002 96 Coupe April 2004 My next .... As soon as I can convince the wife :)
Bill Gander - 26 Jun 2005 15:17 GMT 1975 Coupe - 4 Years 2002 Coupe - 2 Months
> Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks > have owned their [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > "To know the world intimately is the beginning of caring." > -- Ann Hayman Zwinger Mike T - 27 Jun 2005 16:57 GMT Won my 92 LT-1 in well errr 1992, 45 K miles and only one service problem so far.
Mike T
RicSeyler - 29 Jun 2005 19:57 GMT "94 Ragtop 6 Speed since '94
>Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks have owned their >current Corvette. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > -- Ann Hayman Zwinger >
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Tom in Missouri - 01 Jul 2005 07:24 GMT Only had my '79 a little over a year, but I still have a couple of pieces of my '67 I bought in '74, does that count?
I still have the title to my '63 Chevy from 1970. Wish I had the car to go with it.
> Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks have owned their > current Corvette. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > "To know the world intimately is the beginning of caring." > -- Ann Hayman Zwinger Ron in NY-67 427/435hp - 03 Jul 2005 04:53 GMT I've had my 67 since August 1974. Paid $500 for it back then.
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Bob G. - 03 Jul 2005 16:48 GMT >I've had my 67 since August 1974. Paid $500 for it back then. > > RON > > 67/435HP >======================================================== =================
Boy were you sharp....NOT LUCKY...just sharp...
During the 1973 Oil Crisis I remember plenty of my friends bitching about the price of gasoline and selling their cars or swapping in a small block ... Plus Southern States stopped selling & delivering gasoline to fill residential gas tanks such as I had for personal use... !@$#
Honestly I wish I had your "smarts" in 73 and 74....
But I didn't I sold my truck and purchased a Vette....a Chevette unfortunately NOT a Corvette ...
Bob Griffiths 64 72 76 79 & 95 Corvettes ....Chevette is long gone.. lol
Barking Rats - 04 Jul 2005 17:57 GMT > I've had my 67 since August 1974. Paid $500 for it back then. A new leader!
Dang - 500 bucks in '74 would equate to buying a '98 for $1,973 and change. I bought my '67 in '79 for $6000, as I recall, which would be $16,083 today for a '93. Me thinks the depreciation isn't what it used to be.
Year vs. dollar worth is a pretty fun little exercise for certain items: <http://www.minneapolisfed.org/Research/data/us/calc/?year=1974&dollarAmo unt=500&yearto=2005&result=>
My '67 went out the door of it's Pennsylvania dealership (in '67) for just shy of $5000. Today that would be $29,132 today. This is not to say the current Corvettes are overpriced - consider all the technology, amenities and safety features of today vs. '67.
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localhost - 02 Jul 2005 20:49 GMT I've had my 59 since 92 and my 98 since 98 Charlie
> Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how long folks have owned their > current Corvette. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > "To know the world intimately is the beginning of caring." > -- Ann Hayman Zwinger halliman@cityscope.net - 03 Jul 2005 23:07 GMT I bought my 350/350 '69 coupe, new, in '69.
Charles
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